Does School Size Matter

[DeadRed]

my pointy when is say smaller i mean the budget not the enrollment of students. when you are recruiting a player they could care less how many students are enrolled, they want to win and can you get me to the next lavel thats what they care about

POINT IS: this is all just a frame of mind. Everyday in this country businesses start with zero and become largeeeeer. Our university and its athletic budget can grow, but it begins with the mental side of all involved. Instead of we "only have" six people in the pros. The spin is we have six full or part time starters.

Its the way we perceive ourselves that must be changed, FIRST and foremost.

[ShowDog]

As long as the State Legislative has a limit on how much money we can collect from our students that can go to the athletic department, money will always be an issue.

Student revenues don't mean a lot. We need alumni endowments and an organization like TAF at LSU. We need corporations to pour in the $ and that doesn't seem to be on the horizon.

[ShowDog]

i don't look at it a only six people in the pros what i said was there is too big a gap of between jake and brandon, and tillman and taylor. which during this gap we were the worst program in the country. call it frame of mind if you want but we sucked for ten fricken years and i was there during that. So don't tell me as long as we think we are good we will be b/c every year for ten years was our year to turn it around! And as to your small business comment thank you for making my point for me. We are the smaller business right now that is growing to be larger!

The problem with most start up businesses is they are vastly under capitalized. In the field I'm in it takes $1.5 million to even think about opening from scratch, yet I see people trying to do it with as little as $300,000 and wonder why they lose it all.

Unless we get big time coporate commitments and get into a conference such as Conference USA, we will be on the low end of the stick. No matter how you gauge it, the Sunbelt is a joke.

[HoustonCajun]

The problem with most start up businesses is they are vastly under capitalized. In the field I'm in it takes $1.5 million to even think about opening from scratch, yet I see people trying to do it with as little as $300,000 and wonder why they lose it all.

Unless we get big time coporate commitments and get into a conference such as Conference USA, we will be on the low end of the stick. No matter how you gauge it, the Sunbelt is a joke.

I totally agree. We can't sit around waiting for the legislature to allow us to get additional student fees. It likely won't happen. And, even if it does, it won't raise that much additional dollars. We need to raise the money ourselves and let athletics be self-supporting. We need to quit blaming LSU for everything. The are a product of the Long era and benefited from that. It can't be changed and LSU made it work for them. So, how do we overcome what we are dealt? Like you said, get big time corporate sponsors, stadium naming rights, start an athletics funding group like TAF, continue to improve facilities, have a 5 year Plan and announce our intentions to build our program and our budget. All of this will position UL to get into C-USA and get out of SBC. For now, we have to win this conference, go to a bowl game, build excitement for our program, start the independent fund raising (especially now that we have raised $125,000,000 for academics) and then watch what we can do. We need to quit playing the victim and aggressively go after what we want.

[JamesTheJeweler]

only one 'charter member' of 1-A has never been to a 1-A bowl. you guessed it. how much smaller could it be?

we all want them to win, get better, join a decent conference; but don't take umbrage at obvious facts just because you're partisan.

he was referring to SIZE of the school, not its success! perhaps you should read his post again......slower. so maybe YOU shouldn't take umbrage at my rebuke to the obvious fact that you're not very intelligent, just because I'M partisan!

[JamesTheJeweler]

I totally agree. We can't sit around waiting for the legislature to allow us to get additional student fees. It likely won't happen. And, even if it does, it won't raise that much additional dollars. We need to raise the money ourselves and let athletics be self-supporting. We need to quit blaming LSU for everything. The are a product of the Long era and benefited from that. It can't be changed and LSU made it work for them. So, how do we overcome what we are dealt? Like you said, get big time corporate sponsors, stadium naming rights, start an athletics funding group like TAF, continue to improve facilities, have a 5 year Plan and announce our intentions to build our program and our budget. All of this will position UL to get into C-USA and get out of SBC. For now, we have to win this conference, go to a bowl game, build excitement for our program, start the independent fund raising (especially now that we have raised $125,000,000 for academics) and then watch what we can do. We need to quit playing the victim and aggressively go after what we want.

as far as getting an athletic foundation as TAF, from what i understand, authement won't have it because he's afraid that boosters will have too much power. its some of that ancient perspective that has held this univ. back athletically for so long! until we get rid of that dinosaur (authement-a-saurus) i'm afraid we won't make that big push athletically speaking. i wish he would realize how much having big time athletics would also boost the school academically. just my opinion.

[Cajun Express]

as far as getting an athletic foundation as TAF, from what i understand, authement won't have it because he's afraid that boosters will have too much power. its some of that ancient perspective that has held this univ. back athletically for so long! until we get rid of that dinosaur (authement-a-saurus) i'm afraid we won't make that big push athletically speaking. i wish he would realize how much having big time athletics would also boost the school academically. just my opinion.

Nobody can prevent us from starting a booster organization, and I doubt he would refuse a $100,000.00 devoted to say recruiting without any strings attached. I know it would be difficult to get the business folks to back such an organization without the help of the president.

My point is that while we can point the finger, four will always come back at us.

[Sonsissymia]

he was referring to SIZE of the school, not its success! perhaps you should read his post again......slower. so maybe YOU shouldn't take umbrage at my rebuke to the obvious fact that you're not very intelligent, just because I'M partisan!

very impressive response in light of having only 3+ months to come up with it. keep your eye in your loop or on changing watch batteries instead of on the computer and you'll go far, idiot.

[1stTake]

very impressive response in light of having only 3+ months to come up with it. keep your eye in your loop or on changing watch batteries instead of on the computer and you'll go far, idiot.

Atypical goofball is waht you are. What makes you think he read it three months ago? I read something here from four years ago for the very first time it was new to me.

[Sonsissymia]

Atypical goofball is waht you are. What makes you think he read it three months ago? I read something here from four years ago for the very first time it was new to me.

"waht"?

buddy, i don't really think he read it 3 months ago, but he misread what i posted, decided to insult me personally for really no reason when it wasn't even his post i responded to, and i therefore decided to quip back--the 3 month thing seemed like the best fodder for it.

stand down, officer.