Cajuns' RPI at selection time ...

[GoneGolfin]

Brian

Based on your calculations, and going under the premise that RPI was the deciding factor in the top 16 seeds, how do we finish with the #12 RPI and #1 RPI non conference and we wind up the 14 seed?

Looking at the metrics, the best I can tell is that the big conference schools received plenty of "benefit of the doubt" ... on top of the biased RPI system. If it were not for Washington achieving a #1 seed, I would say that they did not examine the NC RPI rankings. I mean, forget #16 Florida State and #17 South Florida. What about #19 Stanford over #18 Washington? Consider this?

Washington was more on a downward spiral than anyone team in the field. They lost their last seven games! One of the selection metrics is record over last 10 games ... Washington was 2-8, Florida State was 7-3, and South Florida was 5-5. As I posted at the beginning of last week, Washington lost 16 of its last 20.

Stanford clobbered Washington at the end of the season in a three game sweep. In fact, Washington did not score in any game and was run-ruled in the finale. Stanford outscored them by an aggregate 15-0.

Stanford also finished 3 1/2 games ahead of Washington in conference play ... 11-13 vs. 7-16.

Stanford was 11-13 vs. the RPI Top 25 and 1-0 vs. the RPI 26->50. Washington was 7-17 vs. the RPI Top 25 and 4-0 vs. the RPI 26->50.

Stanford was 6-4 in its last 10 games. Washington was 2-8.

Washington did have a #7 NC RPI and Stanford had a #25 NC RPI. But if this metric was that important, why was Louisiana a #14 seed with an overall RPI rank of 12 and a NC RPI of #1? The Cajuns were also 4-0 vs. the RPI Top 25 and 10-1 vs. the RPI 26->50 ... with a 9-2 blasting of Arizona State.

Brian

[cajundiehard]

So, a national seed with wins over ULM and/or USA? Yea, I really want to know. With this committee... I don't think it made a difference.

[GoneGolfin]

Check my math for me but I'm guessing around #10 RPI just under a 0.6700 RPI (~.6693) going with a very quick and simple calculation

Except for the South Alabama loss (which involves an RPI Top 50 bonus of .0013 if you win), it makes no difference which of the other losses you remove.

So, let's start with removing the South Alabama loss ...

- 50-3 (removing the South Alabama loss) -> Adjusted RPI .6658 ... RPI Rank #11
- 51-2 (removing any of the ULM, Troy, or FIU losses) -> Adjusted RPI .6706 ... RPI Rank #10
- 52-1 (removing any two of the ULM, Troy, and FIU losses) -> Adjusted RPI .6753 ... RPI Rank of #10
- 53-0 (removing all losses) -> Adjusted RPI .6800 ... RPI Rank of #8

Remember when I said our Adjusted RPI of .6830 was going to be the peak RPI of the season several weeks ago?

Brian

[wcd35]

Well I was mainly referring to our dropping 2 in the last 2 weeks rather than looking at it as a whole. More like, if we were hitting our top form, we wouldnt have lost those, that's why I removed those 2 specifically. Guess my calc was close, though I didnt remember the total for a bonus (Is it .0013, huh?) I had the number right minus the bonus

So, a national seed with wins over ULM and/or USA? Yea, I really want to know. With this committee... I don't think it made a difference.

Yeah I dont know either. They seeded us below our RPI spot even with a great NC RPI, I doubt we'd have gotten any boost the other direction assuming we wouldnt likely have been a top 8, but maybe they would have been more generous to a 2 loss team.

[ulforlife]

What a compete joke that Missouri and Georgia got the #9 & #10 seeds

[DieHard1280]

In my mind, the only way they would have made the Cajuns a top 8 seed is if we had less than 2 losses. For as long as the Cajuns have been a national power, you'd think they would get some benefit of the doubt, but obviously it ain't ever gonna happen. It's time to show 'em what us Cajuns are made of!!

GEAUX CAJUNS!!!

[Cajun90]

Well Washington throws a curve ball into trying to make any sense of it. The only thing I can grasp at is the number of games played against the top 25. That seems to be the only thing that correlates. Note I didn't say how you did against that schedule only that you played more games against the top 25.

[GoneGolfin]

What a compete joke that Missouri and Georgia got the #9 & #10 seeds

I think with Missouri, it went down like this ...

Selection Committee discussion:
We really like Oregon's body of work, their #9 RPI, and their third place finish in the #1 RPI conference. But #14 Missouri just came in to Eugene and took 2/3 from the Ducks. We cannot seed Oregon ahead of Missouri ... but we do not want to drop Oregon too far. Nobody will notice/complain if we bump them over Louisville and Louisiana (OK, I added this last sentence).

Let's move Missouri up to #9 and we can make Oregon #11.
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I have no explanation for Georgia ... other than cramming the top seed slots with member of the top three conferences.

The only two schools earning a #1 seed outside of the Top 3 conferences, the #14 and #15 seeds ... from the #7 and #5 conferences respectively.

Brian

[GoneGolfin]

Well Washington throws a curve ball into trying to make any sense of it. The only thing I can grasp at is the number of games played against the top 25. That seems to be the only thing that correlates. Note I didn't say how you did against that schedule only that you played more games against the top 25.

#19 Stanford blows that theory.

As I detailed in the above comparison of Washington and Stanford ... the only edge Washington had in the evaluation criteria was NC RPI. But again, if NC RPI mattered that much, how do you explain Louisiana and to a lesser extent Lousiville?

Brian

[raoul]

Let's just win out and be done with it!

[Cajun90]

I wasn't looking at NC RPI but rather all games played against the RPI top 25. As of last week we both had three games against the top 25. Well below the other #1 teams total games against the top 25 but I'm still just grasping at straws.

[GoneGolfin]

I wasn't looking at NC RPI but rather all games played against the RPI top 25. As of last week we both had three games against the top 25. Well below the other #1 teams total games against the top 25 but I'm still just grasping at straws.

I was comparing Stanford and Washington. Both have played 24 games vs. the RPI Top 25 ... Stanford won 11, Washington 7.

Brian