Burnt ROUX: JJ Thomas and Raymone Andrews suspended indefinitely

[CajunRed]

You are correct. And, my understanding is the AD was in full agreement.

Good info to know, J. I suspected as much.

[Turbine]

The David Walker / Robert Lee era unraveled when they

a) Chased upper classmen.
b) Replaced them with HS players.
c) Allowed the new recruits to hold the school hostage.

Bob Marlin is still having to deal with the residual repercussions of (c)

[zephyr]

These circumstances really trouble me. There is no doubt in my mind that Marlin would love to have both of these young men on the team in the future but there is obviously more to it than just not liking them. I do not feel that Marlin is doing anything wrong although none of us know the particulars on these matters and very likely never will know everything. However, Andrews has had a history of this stuff, especially with Marlin as he left the team last only to be let back on by Marlin. They obviously have issues and have been able to coexist but this may have come to a head. J.J.'s situation is what really ____es me off. He was made into a celebrity last year and the coaches showed they were willing to ride him as far as he could take them. To be ticked of because of playing time is silly considering it is the player who is coming off of two knee procedures and has not been healthy all year but he feels he's being slighted? Whatever. I absolutely feel that he has a lot to do with Pancake's decision not to honor his LOI he signed not that long ago and I feel that J.J. has become more of a detriment to this team than an asset and thats sad to say.

In the end, this is coaches team and people need to understand that and realize that they do not run this program, he does. I fully support Marlin in this deal and if these guys leave, good luck to them but I won't be sorry to see them go as its obviously more about them than being a cajun.

[MetryCajun]

The David Walker / Robert Lee era unraveled when they

a) Chased upper classmen.
b) Replaced them with HS players.
c) Allowed the new recruits to hold the school hostage.

Bob Marlin is still having to deal with the residual repercussions of (c)

Well Marlin has already or is in the process of doing A. As of now, it looks like B is on the horizon. C does not seem to be a part of his make-up, but if A&B happen...D(getting fired) willl soon follow.

[MetryCajun]

Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace than JJ Thomas? He went from a being the toast of the town to a suspended player in one short year. The only other player that even comes close is George Almonds from the Pascal days. Just sad.

[zephyr]

Well Marlin has already or is in the process of doing A. As of now, it looks like B is on the horizon. C does not seem to be a part of his make-up, but if A&B happen...D(getting fired) willl soon follow.

First, Marlin inherited the guys he supposedly "chased" as you refer to it. Second, those guys, as mentioned previous to this, truly sucked and I'm sorry to say it. It was my understanding that coach wanted Wallace to finish but he was injured and had graduated in December and didn't return. Batiste was the worst decision in regards to recruiting that I can recall in a while and while he did hustle and play hard, he truly had no talent. He was also able to replace these very guys with the likes of Coleby, McClellan and he had Odayne Clark who likely would have been a very nice player for us had he been cleared. Coach was trying to win and get talent in here and its no different than Hud who has had several players leave for various reasons and will likely have more leave before next season even starts. It happens.

[RaginWaldo]

@playincajun, I'm sure we enjoy all your in depth intel about the team, but it really isn't helping the image of the team for your buddy Raymone or any other teammates that you may be friends with with all the inside scoop that you are just vomitting all over this forum.

I think APragincajun gave the best explanation/view of Anything so far
"Some of u guys post really get me sometime because imo, u really don't know the game of basketball, idk where to start, lets go with payton, to say he is not a point guard is pure ignorance, someone brought up rondo in an early post and they were correct, stop watching nba scoring point gaurds like, westbrook, derrick rose, d Williams etc and expect every pg to be like that, those guys are really sg who can handle the rock. Payton turnovers has nothing to do with his lack of ball handling, its more about his decision making which will come in time, he just turned 18. As far as jj is concerned, if you notice, it seems like his baskets are tuff to go by this year. Its really simple, jj is the perfect case of a strong undersized post player, think about who he had on the court with him last year, daigle, bureau, gary, and brown, when jj was on the court with these guys, he got a lot of easy buckets because you couldn't leave the other players to double team jj, so he was always 1 on 1, now with a lack of perimeter shooting, teams can now collapse on jj and make his shot tough,I hate that this suspension has happen, neither side wins, but as someone who knows more about this situation than 99 percent of u on this board, please reframe from jumping to conclusions either way. I like marlin, mone and jj, all I can say is I wish they could've have seen eye to eye, if anybody have anything they want to say or ask me, feel free, I will respond but as someone who has recently been apart of this staff, I will not say anything to discredit this program "

Honestly, I still don't see why so many of you guys worship Bob Marlin as this GodSend basketball coach. Yes he is above .500 this year(barely and after tourney might not be) and somehow mastered a better record than last year. but It is still not very impressive to say the least. There is potential in the players but I see there are alot of communication problems apparently with the team. Maybe he's not vocal enough, Maybe he's not enthusiastic enough, IDK but I don't think he deserves as much credit as he is given.

[CajunRed]

Has there ever been a bigger fall from grace than JJ Thomas? He went from a being the toast of the town to a suspended player in one short year. The only other player that even comes close is George Almonds from the Pascal days. Just sad.

Yep...and responsibility for that rests squarely on JJ's shoulders.

[CajunFreak]

Well he better start picking up the pace here real soon then. Because, according what I saw, he has zero offensive game & can't lead an offense. I'm not wanting to be mean & you are making me feel like I'm saying mean things.

BK... Gotta disagree! Payton has more than enough offensive game, it's his control that is the problem. Many, as I do, hope that the TO problem will improve as he matures. As for Raymone the one trick pony... Well that is a shining example of no offensive game! I appreciate his effort on defense but am sick of watching the houses get built with the bricks he continues to throw up!

[BBOYD]

JUST WIN

[BBOYD]

I dont understand why my posts get deleted, can some one answer this... Playin Cajun is RA mom, and all i said was you not gonna win a battle on here when you going against the COACH of the school...

[zephyr]

I dont understand why my posts get deleted, can some one answer this... Playin Cajun is RA mom, and all i said was you not gonna win a battle on here when you going against the COACH of the school...

I read it. I didn't think it was deleted. It was a good explanation though and I see no reason why it should be deleted.