Burnt ROUX: JJ Thomas and Raymone Andrews suspended indefinitely

[Bandwagon King]

Better practical use...JJ as a guard. But wasn't his problem this year ball control?

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You don't get it. You will never get it, but that's ok. The point is to get as many SHOOTERS (I use that term loosely at this point because I don't see any on the court) as possible. If JJ & Elfird are in the game together then you have a better chance of attacking the rim & they can create their own shot in a one on one scenario. In fact it would help Elfrid because he wouldn't be facing the other teams fastest defender all the time like he does now running the point. But you need someone running the point who can get either of them the ball. You can argue the scenario, but you are so busy buying into the Marlin doesn't make any mistakes campaign that you won't listen to me anyway.

It matters not though. If they get their butts kicked & they're one & done in this tournament, then Marlin loses this team except one guy, & can't recruit another & then he has a miserable record nest year & is replaced. That's all that will count. Nothing you or I say will change that scenario.

[Million$Mullet]

JJ cannot create his own shot. Sorry but every time he puts the ball on the floor after that lame pump fake he gets stripped and turns the ball over.

Elfrid on the other hand can create his own shot with penetration. He just doesn't make them. He needs to learn how to penetrate and dish

[CajunRed]

You don't get it. You will never get it, but that's ok. The point is to get as many SHOOTERS (I use that term loosely at this point because I don't see any on the court) as possible. If JJ & Elfird are in the game together then you have a better chance of attacking the rim & they can create their own shot in a one on one scenario. In fact it would help Elfrid because he wouldn't be facing the other teams fastest defender all the time like he does now running the point. But you need someone running the point who can get either of them the ball. You can argue the scenario, but you are so busy buying into the Marlin doesn't make any mistakes campaign that you won't listen to me anyway.

It matters not though. If they get their butts kicked & they're one & done in this tournament, then Marlin loses this team except one guy, & can't recruit another & then he has a miserable record nest year & is replaced. That's all that will count. Nothing you or I say will change that scenario.

Hey...thanks for settling all of that for us. We were just sitting here waiting for THE definitive comment before bedtime.

[Bandwagon King]

JJ cannot create his own shot. Sorry but every time he puts the ball on the floor after that lame pump fake he gets stripped and turns the ball over.

Elfrid on the other hand can create his own shot with penetration. He just doesn't make them. He needs to learn how to penetrate and dish

Interesting. Is this your own observation & something you've confirmed from following the stats, or just coach speak?
I am seriously wanting to know which. While we're discussing this I have a question for you if you were at the game Saturday night. I can't recall a single high pick being set during that ball game. If Coach Marlin is so great, how come his team doesn't seem to be able to ever run pick & roll or at least have his big man come out to set high picks for his point guards? This would help cut their turnover ratio down somewhat.

[Million$Mullet]

Personal observation. I don't base my opinion off of one game. There have only been a select few games that I have missed over the past few years and that was due to work.

But anyway, guess what? They did run the pick and roll with Coleby....there was a nice pass made and a dunk. There was one from Perez and a few from Payton. Maybe ulm made adjustments and we didnt. Blame that on coaching.

We have two pure shooters on the team (Perez and AMT)
When they are on they are deadly. When not its pretty bad

[CajunRed]

JJ cannot create his own shot. Sorry but every time he puts the ball on the floor after that lame pump fake he gets stripped and turns the ball over.

Elfrid on the other hand can create his own shot with penetration. He just doesn't make them. He needs to learn how to penetrate and dish

But wait...Kyle says he should be playing guard. What....?

[Bandwagon King]

Personal observation. I don't base my opinion off of one game. There have only been a select few games that I have missed over the past few years and that was due to work.

But anyway, guess what? They did run the pick and roll with Coleby....there was a nice pass made and a dunk. There was one from Perez and a few from Payton. Maybe ulm made adjustments and we didnt. Blame that on coaching.


We have two pure shooters on the team (Perez and AMT)
When they are on they are deadly. When not its pretty bad

Who was Payton picking for?
Did you notice any in the second half?

[awadelewis]

I'm not certain the argument about what position Payton should be playing makes a lot of sense given how guard-oriented offenses have become in college basketball. The way that most teams play in today's game there isn't a lot of difference between a scoring guard and a small forward.

Problem with Payton is that, like most 17-18 year old players, he thinks he can beat everyone off the dribble penetration. He's athletic enough to where that often works when he's up against the level of guard play we see in the Sun Belt. And until he develops a decent mid-range jump shot, you see a lot of the same stuff happen to him that we saw in Saturday's game when ULM just collapsed on him every time he tried to drive in the lane.

[Million$Mullet]

Payton wasn't picking. He is the POINT GUARD. Coleby set a high screen for him at the top of the key and rolled to the basket...nice pass...dunk.

There was one early in the second half and another towards the end when things got out of hand

[SlappyCajun]

People are collapsing, b/c they don't have to respect shooters.

[Bandwagon King]

Payton wasn't picking. He is the POINT GUARD. Coleby set a high screen for him at the top of the key and rolled to the basket...nice pass...dunk.

There was one early in the second half and another towards the end when things got out of hand

Your earlier post stated there was a pick from perez & a few from payton. That is what I was referring to. I will conceed to your recollection, but I don't recall any.

[Million$Mullet]

Your earlier post stated there was a pick from perez & a few from payton. That is what I was referring to. I will conceed to your recollection, but I don't recall any.

Sorry if I didn't clarify. There were nice PASSES made by Perez and Payton on pick and rolls