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    I think it's also accurate, his analysis makes very good sense. Once HS football collapses-- and is there any doubt that lawsuits over injuries will become more prevalent?-- colleges will lose their feeder teams.

    The lawsuits and the loss of talent will force smaller programs to drop football first, until there are only a few big schools still playing it, and they will have to drop it for fear of looking more like gulags than universities.

    Rather than fret, I think we would spend our time better thinking about where we should be investing resources now, so that if, or when, football goes away we will already be on track.


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    It could happen...but the chance of it happening in the next 50 or so years (I probably could have said 150 years) is not reality. When he compared the possible demise of football to that of fortune 500 companies, I could have stopped reading.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    I think it's also accurate, his analysis makes very good sense. Once HS football collapses-- and is there any doubt that lawsuits over injuries will become more prevalent?-- colleges will lose their feeder teams.

    The lawsuits and the loss of talent will force smaller programs to drop football first, until there are only a few big schools still playing it, and they will have to drop it for fear of looking more like gulags than universities.

    Rather than fret, I think we would spend our time better thinking about where we should be investing resources now, so that if, or when, football goes away we will already be on track.
    OK . . .putting Fun down for . . . Invest in Track.

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    Best correlation is boxing. If you had told people 50 years ago boxing would be a marginalized sport they wouldn't have believed it either.


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    Boxer was NEVER like football is. Young kids don't start boxing at 5 years old in their local recreation park. And their aren't boxing teams in middle...junior high...and high schools in every town throughout the country. And college boxing doesn't make millions...billions...for colleges and the networks year in and year out.

    It ain't the same.


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    Everything you just described was the case for boxing. Kids did start young and box all through high school. And it used to be a dominant professional sport, not on the scale of pro football now but that's a function of the size of the economy and rise of television. Boxing was huge in the first half of the century. Thats not my opinion it's a historical fact.


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    Boxing was in fact huge for the poor. It was seen as a ticket out of poverty. The big difference is in spite of high school, golden gloves, and a gym in every town boxing was never considered to be the same on the social sports as football, baseball, basketball, and all the rest. There were of course boxers in every social strata, but to get your brains beat out, your face deformed, well it just never clicked with the participants past the amatures for the most part.

    I clearly recall going to high school boxing matches, the gyms were bursting at the seams, but for the most part it ended in high school in a different way than the other sports, people chose not to continue. With basketball, baseball, and football becoming sports that could move the poor out of their situation, boxing shrank on it's own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunFun View Post
    Rather than fret, I think we would spend our time better thinking about where we should be investing resources now, so that if, or when, football goes away we will already be on track.
    Soccer. We need a men's program. If anything can replace football in the distant future, it'll be soccer. That's just my bet. It didn't explode in America yet, and interest grows with each new year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS View Post
    Boxing was in fact huge for the poor. It was seen as a ticket out of poverty. The big difference is in spite of high school, golden gloves, and a gym in every town boxing was never considered to be the same on the social sports as football, baseball, basketball, and all the rest. There were of course boxers in every social strata, but to get your brains beat out, your face deformed, well it just never clicked with the participants past the amatures for the most part.

    I clearly recall going to high school boxing matches, the gyms were bursting at the seams, but for the most part it ended in high school in a different way than the other sports, people chose not to continue. With basketball, baseball, and football becoming sports that could move the poor out of their situation, boxing shrank on it's own.
    Yes. Once the base of support (youth participation) dwindled to just the poor desperate to advance, the sport slowly withered. No doubt football is much more entrenched and orders of magnitude larger in scale than boxing ever was, but that doesnt' mean it can't happen. The money could be it's undoing as once the lawyers get a sniff, it's trouble. Things always change and it's unrealistic to think football can't decline just cause it's super popular now.

    Look I don't think it's likely, nor do I hope it occurs, but to think it can't is ignoring history.

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