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  1. #25

    UL Basketball Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun1300
    I'm pretty sure that Ed Turner will not be welcomed back. There may also be at least one more who does not return. We need to open up scholarship spots for at least one post player if not two.

    Let us in on "YOUR" secret! What is the premises behind this statement? Why would a coach let a player go who has so much talent? In my opinion...out of all the players left on the team after the departure of Mike S., Chris C., and Dwayne M...the core unit of players "MUST" consist of Turner, Mouton, Barksdale, Fields, Hart and Adams! Too much time regarding player development and team continuity has been invested in this core group of players. Logically, if you start chopping away at the cog's of this foundation, you stand the risk of having the same problems next season, regarding the cohesiveness of the players as a functioning, viable unit, as well as the "lack" of understanding regarding the coaching philosophy emphasised as to what it takes to be successful in the SunBelt. :confused:

  2. #26

    Default Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaginEsquire06
    Let us in on "YOUR" secret! What is the premises behind this statement? Why would a coach let a player go who has so much talent? In my opinion...out of all the players left on the team after the departure of Mike S., Chris C., and Dwayne M...the core unit of players "MUST" consist of Turner, Mouton, Barksdale, Fields, Hart and Adams! Too much time regarding player development and team continuity has been invested in this core group of players. Logically, if you start chopping away at the cog's of this foundation, you stand the risk of having the same problems next season, regarding the cohesiveness of the players as a functioning, viable unit, as well as the "lack" of understanding regarding the coaching philosophy emphasised as to what it takes to be successful in the SunBelt. :confused:
    My starting 5 next year with what we know we will have would be...

    PG - Cooke
    SG - Dees
    F - Mouton
    F - Fields
    F - Hart

    If Spencer Ford is back on the team I would add him into the starting lineup instead of Fields.

    Also I think the bench will be fairly strong next year with...
    - Pesoli having an extra year to become better. He was expected to do a lot more this year but I think sitting out last year and really getting use to the level of basketball we play hurt him but I think he will be a good one in the future
    - Forrest he might be a freshmen but I have liked what I have heard about him so far
    - Gary will also be a freshmen but I think he will be able to make a contribution off the bench
    - Barksdale, Darragh, and Hebert will all be able to give good minutes at the point off the bench and for that first month of the season untill Cooke is eligible.
    - Derek Grey might also be back next year and I like the potential and if he can fulfill that potential he could be another big contributer to the team next season.
    - As much I like Adam James because of his heart and fight on the court I think he will still be a guy to count on for minutes off of the bench. I just don't see him as a viable option in the starting lineup but who knows what will happen with him in the next year to change my mind.

    We need to add a JUCO big man who can play right away and maybe a high school big man that we can develope.

  3. UL Basketball Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by cajun1300
    I'm pretty sure that Ed Turner will not be welcomed back. There may also be at least one more who does not return. We need to open up scholarship spots for at least one post player if not two.
    I have no insight but why would he be allowed to play 9 and 13 minutes the last 2 games respectively and not be brought back the next year?

  4. #28

    Default Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364
    My starting 5 next year with what we know we will have would be...

    PG - Cooke
    SG - Dees
    F - Mouton
    F - Fields
    F - Hart

    If Spencer Ford is back on the team I would add him into the starting lineup instead of Fields.

    Also I think the bench will be fairly strong next year with...
    - Pesoli having an extra year to become better. He was expected to do a lot more this year but I think sitting out last year and really getting use to the level of basketball we play hurt him but I think he will be a good one in the future
    - Forrest he might be a freshmen but I have liked what I have heard about him so far
    - Gary will also be a freshmen but I think he will be able to make a contribution off the bench
    - Barksdale, Darragh, and Hebert will all be able to give good minutes at the point off the bench and for that first month of the season untill Cooke is eligible.
    - Derek Grey might also be back next year and I like the potential and if he can fulfill that potential he could be another big contributer to the team next season.
    - As much I like Adam James because of his heart and fight on the court I think he will still be a guy to count on for minutes off of the bench. I just don't see him as a viable option in the starting lineup but who knows what will happen with him in the next year to change my mind.

    We need to add a JUCO big man who can play right away and maybe a high school big man that we can develope.
    I would much rather have Barksdale or Hebert starting next year with their experience. They are both giving valuable minutes this season.

  5. #29

    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364
    My starting 5 next year with what we know we will have would be...

    PG - Cooke
    SG - Dees
    F - Mouton
    F - Fields
    F - Hart
    First off, I would like to say I'm very proud and supportive of every player who don's a Cajun uniform! I have no favorites, and I enjoy each player for the special talent that each player shares with us!

    I agree with you Clutch, especially if Dees and Cooke do not turn out to be over rated!...However, I am not sold on "Fields, Hart, and Mouton!" I don't think these three players are superior athletes in contrast to E. Turner! E. Turner is a better basketball player...hands down! Ed's talent is undeniable! Now, what's keeping him from playing in a consistent manner regarding turn-overs and poor shot selection...I have no clue!

    The only players "at this point" who would be a viable starter from our current roster is E. Turner and maaaaaaaaaybe J.T. Fields.

    Mouton plays with great hustle...a good defender, but is very limited as a scorer and is often out manned by players who are more athletic than he is! You can even say the same about J.T. Fields...just add kinda weak physically to that category. V. Hart, is not very tuff on the boards and is very limited as a scorer...I just see him get bullied way too much!

    Drawing my conclusion from the current players on our team, my starting lineup would look like this:

    1st Team

    PG-Cooke
    SG-Dees
    SF-Turner
    4th-??? (*If Ford returns...he may fill this spot!)
    5th-???


    2nd Team

    PG-Barksdale
    F-Mouton
    F-Fields
    F-Hart
    F-Adams

    3rd Team
    PG-Hebert
    F-Pesoli
    G-Forest
    F-Gary

  6. #30

    Default Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaginEsquire06
    First off, I would like to say I'm very proud and supportive of every player who don's a Cajun uniform! I have no favorites, and I enjoy each player for the special talent that each player shares with us!

    I agree with you Clutch, especially if Dees and Cooke do not turn out to be over rated!...However, I am not sold on "Fields, Hart, and Mouton!" I don't think these three players are superior atheletes in contrast to E. Turner! E. Turner is a better basketball player...hands down! Ed's talent is undiniable! Now, what's keeping him from playing in a consitent manner regarding turn-overs and poor shot selection...I have no clue!

    The only players "at this point" who would be a viable starter from our current roster is E. Turner and maaaaaaaaaybe J.T. Fields.

    Mouton plays with great hustle...a good defender, but is very limited as a scorer and is often out manned by players who are more atehletic than he is! You can even say the same about J.T. Fields...just add kinda weak physically to that catagory. V. Hart, is not very tuff on the boards and is very limited as a scorer...I just see him get bullied way too much!

    Drawing my conclusion from the current players on our team, my starting lineup would look like this:

    1st Team

    PG-Cooke
    SG-Dees
    SF-Turner
    4th-??? (*If Ford returns...he may fill this spot!)
    5th-???


    2nd Team

    PG-Barksdale
    F-Mouton
    F-Fields
    F-Hart
    F-Adams

    3rd Team
    PG-Hebert
    F-Pesoli
    G-Forest
    F-Gary
    I agree with everything you said but I think that Turner brings down the players around him. You can tell he has talent on offense but like you said poor shot selection.

    I think a JUCO big man will fill one of our holes but you can't depend on that as we have seen this year. Fields and Mouton I see as very similar players but I think Mouton has finally come into his own. I'm very interested in seeing how Coach Lee handles the loss of Mitchell, Southall, and Cameron but its been talked about on here before that he has been out recruiting hard and hopefully it pays off.

  7. #31

    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Clutch0364
    I'm very interested in seeing how Coach Lee handles the loss of Mitchell, Southall, and Cameron but its been talked about on here before that he has been out recruiting hard and hopefully it pays off.

    Amen!

  8. #32

    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCherokee
    I would much rather have Barksdale or Hebert starting next year with their experience. They are both giving valuable minutes this season.

    Your absolutely right...and they probably will! However, if Cooke is as good as he is hyped to be...you can't deny the talent!

  9. #33

    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunCherokee
    I would much rather have Barksdale or Hebert starting next year with their experience. They are both giving valuable minutes this season.

    Marquie Cooke 6'3" 205lbs. Guard:

    (Photo): http://csurams.collegesports.com/spo...marquie00.html

    "Cooke, a native of Suffolk, Va., and graduate of Nansemond River High School, was a three-year starter and AP all-state selection as a junior and senior. He averaged 26.1 points, 9.6 assists and 6.3 rebounds per game as a senior and was ranked as the No. 57 player (No. 11 point guard) in the nation coming out of the prep ranks."

    See: http://csurams.collegesports.com/spo...082305aab.html

  10. #34

    Default Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by RaginEsquire06


    Mouton plays with great hustle...a good defender, but is very limited as a scorer and is often out manned by players who are more athletic than he is! You can even say the same about J.T. Fields...just add kinda weak physically to that category. V. Hart, is not very tuff on the boards and is very limited as a scorer...I just see him get bullied way too much!
    If you think Mouton and Hart are limited scorers perhaps you should take a closer look at Turner's stats:

    34.5% FG ; 26.7% 3pt FG and 60.4% FT

    'limited' isn't the word I would choose.

    http://www.ragincajuns.com/Basketbal...6/Teamcume.htm

  11. #35

    Default Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbine
    I have no insight but why would he be allowed to play 9 and 13 minutes the last 2 games respectively and not be brought back the next year?
    Turner's on-court demeanor and attitude remind me of the "old" Michael Southall. I don't know if that is enough justification for him to not be brought back next season.

  12. #36

    Ragin' Cajuns Re: Basketball team next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by nutz
    If you think Mouton and Hart are limited scorers perhaps you should take a closer look at Turner's stats:

    34.5% FG ; 26.7% 3pt FG and 60.4% FT

    'limited' isn't the word I would choose.

    http://www.ragincajuns.com/Basketbal...6/Teamcume.htm

    "limited" is the word of "My" choice because it is exactly what "I" meant! To enlighten "you" Mr. Nutz as to why "I" believe that both of the players mentioned above are "limited" in there abilities as "Scorers" is based simply on the fact that they both do not possess a complex ability to create scoring opportunities from different methods of attacking the basket. Mouton seems to be most comfortable when taking his shots from beyond the perimeter...very rarely have I seen Mouton attack the basket off of the dribble while a defender is contesting him, and I have not seen Mouton engage in many short range jump shots...However, I have seen Mouton dunk or complete a lay-up on the end of a fast break...but not often by driving to the basket in a crowd of defenders. As for V. Hart...I don't even think that he was recruited for has scoring abilities! All you have to do is look at his average points scored per game, it should give you an indication as to what type strengths this player brings to the team... As far as E. Turners stats...who gives a "d@mn!" The purpose of my statement revolves around a players ability, or in some cases, lack of ability to score points! And if your gonna make an inference that E. Turner is not a legitimate scoring threat...well, I can't entertain that!

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