Football Always Drives the Bus ... or does it?
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
_ Football drives everything, not basketball.
No intention of hijacking the thread; but that isn't always the case, and I'd bet WRT mid-major programs basketball does indeed drive the boat if you are getting into the tournament regularly. Below is financial info from Nevada-Reno. A successful basketball program is more achievable on our level than football can be (at least in the near future).
http://www.rgj.com/section/blogs16?p...telife.rgj.com
Men’s Basketball
Year Expenses Revenue Gain/Loss
2007-08 $1.935M $4.479M +$2.315M
2008-09 $2.300M $4.281M +$1.981M
2009-10 $1.756M $3.696M +$1.940M
Total $5.991M $12.456M +$6.465M
Football
Year Expenses Revenue Gain/Loss
2007-08 $5.032M $5.499M +$467,000
2008-09 $5.704M $4.817M -$887,000
2009-10 $5.535M $5.648M +$113,000
Total $16.271M $15.964M -$307,000
Re: Football Always Drives the Bus ... or does it?
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Re: Football Always Drives the Bus ... or does it?
WOW! I started a new thread and didn't even know it! :rolleyes:
To me the bottom line is, only a few select programs (big AQ schools like Texas, LSU, etc) really make money in football. But MANY smaller programs keep their athletic programs afloat by consistently getting into, and advancing in the NCAA basketball tournament. NCAA basketball "units" are very important to a viable program!
And I don't say this to downplay our coach search in FB. This is a VERY important hire for this program; but regardless how good it is, it won't make a significant amount of money for the overall athletic program compared to the expense incurred running football. It really is more of a statement that we want this program to be successful, and are ready to put our money where our mouth's are.
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I think the biz model has to fit the school.
If you go down the road that there is only one way -with no forks- you limit your options.
Re: Football Always Drives the Bus ... or does it?
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Originally Posted by
shof
_ No intention of hijacking the thread; but that isn't always the case, and I'd bet WRT mid-major programs basketball does indeed drive the boat if you are getting into the tournament regularly. Below is financial info from Nevada-Reno. A successful basketball program is more achievable on our level than football can be (at least in the near future).
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And yet, nobody knows or cares about Nevada-Reno....Until they beat Boise St in FOOTBALL!
Also, ask Lamar how that "focus on basketball" method has worked out.
There is no question and no doubt. We must get our football program up to a very competitive level to get any overall respect and recognition for our University in terms of Athletics. If we excel in Basketball, we get 8,000 - 10,000 fans to show up. If we excel in football, we get 30,000 - 40,000 easy, possibly more.
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You may not care. But many new about Nevada long before that football win, b/c of Nick Fasekas and basketball
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Re: Football Always Drives the Bus ... or does it?
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Originally Posted by
ULGrad@HOU
_ And yet, nobody knows or cares about Nevada-Reno....Until they beat Boise St in FOOTBALL!
Also, ask Lamar how that "focus on basketball" method has worked out.
There is no question and no doubt. We must get our football program up to a very competitive level to get any overall respect and recognition for our University in terms of Athletics. If we excel in Basketball, we get 8,000 - 10,000 fans to show up. If we excel in football, we get 30,000 - 40,000 easy, possibly more. _
My point wasn't about how "well known" UN-Reno is; but how "financially" the basketball program has led the overall program. I know how important football is to the image of a school, and concur that we need to get our act together in that respect (especially being a southern school); but basketball has been paying the bills for them!
Re: Football Always Drives the Bus ... or does it?
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Originally Posted by
shof
_ My point wasn't about how "well known" UN-Reno is; but how "financially" the basketball program has led the overall program. I know how important football is to the image of a school, and concur that we need to get our act together in that respect (especially being a southern school); but basketball has been paying the bills for them! _
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This is an easily disproven concept. UConn joined the BE in 2003, in its first year of league play the football team earned more than the bball team. The bball team won a NC in '99 and would win another in '04...while the football team won the Motor City Bowl.
45,000 seats x 6 games (let alone 100K) is far more profitable than 11,000x16...and if you're average, there's no $1mil payouts for rent-a-loss bball games. If it's even worth delving deeper, the team shares for NCAA tourney progression are minimal compared to a mid level bowl game.