Joe DeForest

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I was able to play both football and baseball. That's where (former Yankee great) Ron Guidry was from. My roommate (Xavier Hernandez) pitched for the Astros and the Yankees. In the 1986 opener, you competed against the OSU football team. What do you ...

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I don't have a problem with an Associate Head Coach who has never been a coordinator taking over as a head coach.

There is an air of neutrality that will allow his coordinators to handle their duties to the best of their ability, while he heads the overall program.

With Bustle as a former OC his fingerprint was obvious; his coordinators always seemed to be cookie cutter images of each other.

On a side note many forget that Baldwin was once an Associate Head Coach and then demoted to Defensive Coordinator then demoted to Line Coach, then demoted to position coach under Denardo.

At least DeForest seems to have a lock on the Associate Head Coach position. This tells me he is highly organized.

Honestly, I dont know who is the best candidate b/c I wont be in the interview room with Farmer when he talks to these guys. I would be happy with DeForest, Hudspeth, or Brewer. I trust scott with this decision.

I trust Scott and David


igeaux.mobi

For the record:

I am not a candidate and I will not interview if asked.

There will be no Coach Crawfish! :D

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Originally Posted by CajunRed

_ I trust Scott and David


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COPY CAT!!!!
Lol just kidding :)

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Originally Posted by Crawfish

_ For the record:

I am not a candidate and I will not interview if asked.

There will be no Coach Crawfish! :D _

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THANK GOODNESS!!! :D:D:D

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Originally Posted by Crawfish

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I am not a candidate and I will not interview if asked.

There will be no Coach Crawfish! :D _

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You're just saying that because it's Crawfish Season. :)

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Originally Posted by Turbine

_ I don't have a problem with an Associate Head Coach who has never been a coordinator taking over as a head coach.

There is an air of neutrality that will allow his coordinators to handle their duties to the best of their ability, while he heads the overall program.

With Bustle as a former OC his fingerprint was obvious; his coordinators always seemed to be cookie cutter images of each other.

On a side note many forget that Baldwin was once an Associate Head Coach and then demoted to Defensive Coordinator then demoted to Line Coach, then demoted to position coach under Denardo.

At least DeForest seems to have a lock on the Associate Head Coach position. This tells me he is highly organized. _

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You are comparing him to Baldwin...Enough said. Honestly, I do find it to be a bit of an issue that he has never truly led a program himself. I don't really care whether he's thought highly of at Oklahoma State or it shows his organization, when you have your own program to run, you are solely responsible for its progress and he hasn't had to prove his worth in that regard. I wouldn't necessarily be against the hire BUT I would be against paying him over 400k as it is rumored we are prepared to do. Taking a page out of YOUR book, I'd prefer to pay a little less and front load it with incentives.

I don't see where I compared them so much as I thought I was pointing out an obvious difference.


ps incentives is the way to go
igeaux.mobi

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Originally Posted by Crawfish

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I am not a candidate and I will not interview if asked.

There will be no Coach Crawfish! :D

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Sounds like coachspeak to me.




igeaux.mobi

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Originally Posted by Crawfish

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Damn, thats disappointing. Crawfish would have been a name to attract recruits. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Turbine

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Oh crap, and me heading back to Louisiana next week. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Turbine

_ I don't have a problem with an Associate Head Coach who has never been a coordinator taking over as a head coach.

There is an air of neutrality that will allow his coordinators to handle their duties to the best of their ability, while he heads the overall program.

With Bustle as a former OC his fingerprint was obvious; his coordinators always seemed to be cookie cutter images of each other.

On a side note many forget that Baldwin was once an Associate Head Coach and then demoted to Defensive Coordinator then demoted to Line Coach, then demoted to position coach under Denardo.

At least DeForest seems to have a lock on the Associate Head Coach position. This tells me he is highly organized. _

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FAMILY, strong recruiter in Texas, and he loves UL, He is my choice.


GEAUX CAJUNS

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Originally Posted by Turbine

_ I don't see where I compared them so much as I thought I was pointing out an obvious difference.


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And what difference is that? That he is highly organized from which we have no proof since he is an associate head coach? LOL.

BTW, incentives are nice but will likely not go far when trying to sway a productive and proven winner at the head level. They will want a level of commitment from the administration that is not necessarily all tied into performance factors that he may or may not have direct control over such as crippling injury epidemics. It's certainly an intriguing way to give the coach that much more to gain from having success but simply offering a low bas salary as you've suggested in the past and limiting the coaches guarantees up front will not carry much weight with most established head coaches.

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_ And what difference is that? That he is highly organized from which we have no proof since he is an associate head coach? LOL.

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The difference between demotions and retentions.

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BTW, incentives are nice but will likely not go far when trying to sway a productive and proven winner at the head level. They will want a level of commitment from the administration that is not necessarily all tied into performance factors that he may or may not have direct control over such as crippling injury epidemics. It's certainly an intriguing way to give the coach that much more to gain from having success but simply offering a low bas salary as you've suggested in the past and limiting the coaches guarantees up front will not carry much weight with most established head coaches. _

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One might not like to hear it it, but I'm going on the premise that a winning head coach at the FCS level is not quite yet an "established head coach."

Thus he has a lot to gain with my model, x2.

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STILLWATER — Oklahoma State’s coaching staff may not be fully intact for the Alamo Bowl.

Special teams coach Joe DeForest could be a leading candidate to become the next head coach at Louisiana. Cowboys coach Mike Gundy said he’s likely to allow DeForest to begin his new job immediately if the longtime assistant is hired at UL within the next two weeks.

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Sweet, we hired a new AD already I guess. Cant wait to meet this Dave Martin

What's the story on Dave Martin?

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What about Brandon Catmon---He ULLs us to death and can't get the AD correct!!!!

A lot of Ok State fans are hoping we hire DeForest as well, not a good sign in my opinion.

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_ A lot of Ok State fans are hoping we hire DeForest as well, not a good sign in my opinion. _

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Same as Crowton syndrome

I noticed in the article Gundy stated he would ask him to stay until late december and the Bowl game...but not longer after that?.....hmmm RED FLAG RED FLAG RED FLAG

No HC experience = not good candidate UL please be wise in this crucial hire.

Refresh my memory... Was gundy the guy that went ape _____ some time back on a reporter?