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College Basketball 3 Point Line
Been wondering lately if the quality of the college game will benefit from moving the 3 point line out to match the NBA's 3 point distance of 23'9" from the center? Adds approximately 1'8" distance to players jacking up threes. Not suggesting this as a NBA fanboy, haven't really followed the NBA much for the past 20+ years. Seems like the college game could benefit by making the 3 point shot more challenging. I did read the current college 3 point line matches the international game standard, but so what. Our country has so many great athletes playing the college game. Coaches and athletes are adaptable.
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Duckster
Been wondering lately if the quality of the college game will benefit from moving the 3 point line out to match the NBA's 3 point distance of 23'9" from the center? Adds approximately 1'8" distance to players jacking up threes. Not suggesting this as a NBA fanboy, haven't really followed the NBA much for the past 20+ years. Seems like the college game could benefit by making the 3 point shot more challenging. I did read the current college 3 point line matches the international game standard, but so what. Our country has so many great athletes playing the college game. Coaches and athletes are adaptable.
Only way to help the game is to remove the 3-point line all together. Bring back the mid range jumper and interesting basketball. MBGA
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Would have to disagree. Today's athletes are bigger, faster and stronger. Forcing all that into a tighter space would be chaos. With no threat of a 3 point shot, bottlenecking play would suck. Spacing out play, making the 3 point shot more difficult, I think would actually force more of that midrange game.
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JamesTheJeweler
Would have to disagree. Today's athletes are bigger, faster and stronger. Forcing all that into a tighter space would be chaos. With no threat of a 3 point shot, bottlenecking play would suck. Spacing out play, making the 3 point shot more difficult, I think would actually force more of that midrange game.
I disagree. There still would be nothing forcing any team to quit spreading the floor; in fact, teams with good inside games would likely do so to open up better shots from 15' in.
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VObserver
I disagree. There still would be nothing forcing any team to quit spreading the floor; in fact, teams with good inside games would likely do so to open up better shots from 15' in.
Nothing keeping them from spreading the floor? Let them. If they want to take low percentage shots from the outside for the same 2 pts they can get mid to inside, more power to em. What's the advantage of spreading out with no 3pt threat? Jacking up low percentage shots from 3pt land for 2pts?
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JamesTheJeweler
Nothing keeping them from spreading the floor? Let them. If they want to take low percentage shots from the outside for the same 2 pts they can get mid to inside, more power to em. What's the advantage of spreading out with no 3pt threat? Jacking up low percentage shots from 3pt land for 2pts?
Nope. Advantage is they have to come out to defend you. Can't just clog the middle and leave you uncontested outside shots.
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The mid range game and free throws is the recipe for high scoring basketball. Todays game, especially Americans, is built around the 3pt shot and it’s killing basketball.
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JamesTheJeweler
Nothing keeping them from spreading the floor? Let them. If they want to take low percentage shots from the outside for the same 2 pts they can get mid to inside, more power to em. What's the advantage of spreading out with no 3pt threat? Jacking up low percentage shots from 3pt land for 2pts?
This guy doesn't remember when basketball was great.
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Do away with 3 point line
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Funny how I still remember it was the old ABA that started the 3-point shot. Saw it with the old New Orleans Buccaneers that my dad would take me to see at the old Loyola Field House. Dad even bought me an official replica ABA red, white and blue basketball!
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NOCajun
Funny how I still remember it was the old ABA that started the 3-point shot. Saw it with the old New Orleans Buccaneers that my dad would take me to see at the old Loyola Field House. Dad even bought me an official replica ABA red, white and blue basketball!
Check this out. One of my favorite shirts. Larry Brown, FTW
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Esqueleto
This guy doesn't remember when basketball was great.
I'm 52. I remember.
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VObserver
Nope. Advantage is they have to come out to defend you. Can't just clog the middle and leave you uncontested outside shots.
So you're saying nothing would change if you removed the 3 point line? Ok. Got it.
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JamesTheJeweler
So you're saying nothing would change if you removed the 3 point line? Ok. Got it.
Yeah, basketball would be great again
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According to NCAA.com this season 290 teams out of 350 are on average taking 20+ 3 point shots per game. In other words darn near everyone! If I read it correctly, players are making about 35% of them. Must be analytics driving these coaches to rely more and more on 3 pt. shot. Don't know if coaches will agree to getting rid of it, at least make it more challenging.
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To me the problem with basketball is we’ve forgotten what a block and a charge is.. at some point along the way offensive players figured out you can run into a defender driving to the basket and 95% of the time you will get a foul called on them. They might as well put shoulder pads and helmets on.
Game was finesse and crisp passing and shooting. Now it’s all penetrate and get fouled or penetrate and dish for a 3 pt shot. And every game with in a 10 point outcome is decided by terrible officiating. It’s become so hard to watch.
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Jacob81
To me the problem with basketball is we’ve forgotten what a block and a charge is.. at some point along the way offensive players figured out you can run into a defender driving to the basket and 95% of the time you will get a foul called on them. They might as well put shoulder pads and helmets on.
Game was finesse and crisp passing and shooting. Now it’s all penetrate and get fouled or penetrate and dish for a 3 pt shot. And every game with in a 10 point outcome is decided by terrible officiating. It’s become so hard to watch.
That's a good description of the game today.
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Esqueleto
Check this out. One of my favorite shirts. Larry Brown, FTW
WOW. Blast from the past!!
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Jacob81
To me the problem with basketball is we’ve forgotten what a block and a charge is.. at some point along the way offensive players figured out you can run into a defender driving to the basket and 95% of the time you will get a foul called on them. They might as well put shoulder pads and helmets on.
Game was finesse and crisp passing and shooting. Now it’s all penetrate and get fouled or penetrate and dish for a 3 pt shot. And every game with in a 10 point outcome is decided by terrible officiating. It’s become so hard to watch.
You can go watch any pickup game and see this for free…without the loud music, screaming PA, cheap ars student giveaways, and BYOB and food a whole lot cheaper.
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Duckster
According to NCAA.com this season 290 teams out of 350 are on average taking 20+ 3 point shots per game. In other words darn near everyone! If I read it correctly, players are making about 35% of them. Must be analytics driving these coaches to rely more and more on 3 pt. shot. Don't know if coaches will agree to getting rid of it, at least make it more challenging.
35% on 3's is equal to 52.5% on 2's. In addition, a team typically gets more offensive rebounds on 3's due to long rebounds. This is why you are seeing teams shot more 3's.
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Duckster
According to NCAA.com this season 290 teams out of 350 are on average taking 20+ 3 point shots per game. In other words darn near everyone! If I read it correctly, players are making about 35% of them. Must be analytics driving these coaches to rely more and more on 3 pt. shot. Don't know if coaches will agree to getting rid of it, at least make it more challenging.
NBA is worse in adapting the 3 point analytics. Virtually every team tries to get up 40 three point attempts per game. That has had a big impact on the ratings being down in my view. It becomes boring as every team runs the same offense. A simple solution is to eliminate the short corner 3. Make the three point line 30 feet from the basket everywhere. As the sideline is about 24 feet from the basket, a shot there would be only worth 2 points. That would reduce the amount of times players simply run to the corner of the baseline and sideline as a make there would be only worth 2 points. We adhere to that philosophy We have had Garnett running to that spot for 3 years. This year we did not force enough turnovers or get enough rebounds to get many opportunities for that play.
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Cajunfever
35% on 3's is equal to 52.5% on 2's. In addition, a team typically gets more offensive rebounds on 3's due to long rebounds. This is why you are seeing teams shot more 3's.
A negative to the long rebounds is the opponent getting run outs to the basket on missed threes if you don't gather the offensive board.
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Cajunfever
35% on 3's is equal to 52.5% on 2's. In addition, a team typically gets more offensive rebounds on 3's due to long rebounds. This is why you are seeing teams shot more 3's.
35% is better than shooting 50% from 2-point land but with a couple of caveats.
You draw fewer fouls thus less old fashion 3-pointers. Meaning the 50% of 2-point attempts actually has above and beyond potential.
3-point shooting also increases the odds of facing their best players the entire game.
If there are fewer fouls due to shot selection, the opponent will foul out less often.
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Turbine
35% is better than shooting 50% from 2-point land but with a couple of caveats.
You draw fewer fouls thus less old fashion 3-pointers. Meaning the 50% of 2-point attempts actually has above and beyond potential.
3-point shooting also increases the odds of facing their best players the entire game.
If there are fewer fouls due to shot selection, the opponent will foul out less often.
Those are some good points Turbine. That is why some studies have shown you really need to shoot 38 percent from 3 to equal 50 percent from 2. The fouls issue is a big part of that study.
