HC/Plane Crash at Reagan National Airport

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is now an active rescue operation underway at the Potomac River in Washington D.C. after a passenger plane operated by American Airlines collided midair with a Black Hawk helicopter while trying to land. CBS News&#39; <a href="https://twitter.com/krisvancleave?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@krisvancleave</a> reports that this is the first commercial… <a href="https://t.co/wBodTGwqZH">pic.twitter.com/wBodTGwqZH</a></p>&mdash; CBS News (@CBSNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1884805740248080530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Prayers. Watching this and just not understanding how this happened.

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun77

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is now an active rescue operation underway at the Potomac River in Washington D.C. after a passenger plane operated by American Airlines collided midair with a Black Hawk helicopter while trying to land. CBS News' <a href="https://twitter.com/krisvancleave?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@krisvancleave</a> reports that this is the first commercial… <a href="https://t.co/wBodTGwqZH">pic.twitter.com/wBodTGwqZH</a></p>&mdash; CBS News (@CBSNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1884805740248080530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Prayers. Watching this and just not understanding how this happened.

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...Looked like the hillo came all the way from left to right and ramed the plane…..had to see this many times….know absolutely nothing but just don’t understand what I THINK I saw!

Go here for ATC reconstruction

https://youtu.be/r90Xw3tQC0I?si=vxWV21t8avn9gws-

Go here for analysis by Juan brown current 777 pilot for major airline and was military pilot. Great explanation of the event

https://youtu.be/ouDAnO8eMf8?si=m4n7S71MkogwmEep

It is going to get worse.
'WH fires heads of TSA, Coast Guard and guts key aviation safety advisory committee'

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Originally Posted by Big Tyme

It is going to get worse.
'WH fires heads of TSA, Coast Guard and guts key aviation safety advisory committee'

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You do realize that the "Head's" of these agencies are just politicians that mostly send emails and guide the agency. Plus, none of these changes go into effect immediately so those firings have nothing to do with this incident.

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Originally Posted by cjr3888

You do realize that the "Head's" of these agencies are just politicians that mostly send emails and guide the agency. Plus, none of these changes go into effect immediately so those firings have nothing to do with this incident.

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Big Tyme is a big time Dumbocrat. Nothing to see here.

'aviation safety advisory committee'
AVIATION SAFETY

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Originally Posted by Big Tyme

'aviation safety advisory committee'
AVIATION SAFETY

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You are an idiot

Will be curious to get AirBill and Cajun4Life thoughts.

Helicopter was a UH-60 Blackhawk based in either Ft. Belvoir or Langley, both in Fairfax County, VA. Belvoir is home to Military Intelligence and Security; Langley/McLean is home to the CIA and NSA [though NSA is said to no longer exist]. When I indirectly worked for them we called it "No Such Agency". MIS and the Company make regular flights along that route.

Reports are that the only people in board the 'Hawk' were 2 pilots and a crew chief. No one survived.

A detailed step by step analysis by another experienced pilot

https://youtu.be/hfgllf1L9_4?si=pWRTCyOUMXkUSeUF

Total of only 19 certified Air traffic controlers at KDCA. They work 6 10 hour days.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaki...campaign=64466

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Originally Posted by HelmutVII

A detailed step by step analysis by another experienced pilot

https://youtu.be/hfgllf1L9_4?si=pWRTCyOUMXkUSeUF

Total of only 19 certified Air traffic controlers at KDCA. They work 6 10 hour days.

https://thepostmillennial.com/breaki...campaign=64466

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Excellent breakdown and makes total sense. I have read elsewhere about the difficulty of identifying traffic at a busy airport and a lot up city at night. Reagan seems tricky to fly into anyway with all of the restricted airspace in the area.

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Originally Posted by Big Tyme

Excellent breakdown and makes total sense. I have read elsewhere about the difficulty of identifying traffic at a busy airport and a lot up city at night. Reagan seems tricky to fly into anyway with all of the restricted airspace in the area.

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Juan Brown did an excellent update. the end is very informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3gD_lnBNu0

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Originally Posted by HelmutVII

Juan Brown did an excellent update. the end is very informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3gD_lnBNu0

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There are a couple of YouTube channels that break down plane crashes. Some are tough to watch because simple things can kill the pilot and sometimes, the pilot's family.

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Originally Posted by Big Tyme

There are a couple of YouTube channels that break down plane crashes. Some are tough to watch because simple things can kill the pilot and sometimes, the pilot's family.

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Are you on drugs?

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Originally Posted by CockyCajun

Are you on drugs?

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Originally Posted by HelmutVII

Juan Brown did an excellent update. the end is very informative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3gD_lnBNu0

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Thank you for sharing. Great insight and information.

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Originally Posted by CockyCajun

Are you on drugs?

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Vaxx side effects

Airbill (jet pilot) and Cajun4Life (helicopter pilot) where you guys at? Wondering if Airbill has ever flown into this particular airport.

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Originally Posted by Big Tyme

'aviation safety advisory committee'
AVIATION SAFETY

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Ignored the request to shut down DCA at the request of Langley, Atacostia and Belvoir due to high volumes of traffic and the significance of its location.

The cause of this is not the result of a political decision by either party.

True but gutting a board charged with identifying safety issues cannot be a good thing.
From the bit that I've seen, the vid Helmut posted and limited understanding of pilotage, the Blackhawk pilot was at fault? The crj seemed to be following ATC instructions.

A spokesman addressed speculation today, until the NTSB finishes the investigation, there’s no official cause yet.

I do expect it to be done quicker than in the past.

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Originally Posted by Big Tyme

True but gutting a board charged with identifying safety issues cannot be a good thing.
From the bit that I've seen, the vid Helmut posted and limited understanding of pilotage, the Blackhawk pilot was at fault? The crj seemed to be following ATC instructions.

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Both followed instructions, the Blackhawk crew messed up.

I have 2000.2 hours in a UH60M, my former unit just left there 4 months ago. It’s an incredibly busy airspace to operate in.

I refuse to lay blame on political hot button topics because it’s not about politics at this point.

I could list hundreds of contributing factors, but it won’t change the fact that 70ish people have died in a midair.

Aviation is one of the most unforgiving industries out there. A critical mistake in a critical phase of flight will result in a fatal accident the majority of the time.

I have friends who know that 60 crew pretty well and it’s unfortunate.

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Originally Posted by cajun4life

Both followed instructions, the Blackhawk crew messed up.

I have 2000.2 hours in a UH60M, my former unit just left there 4 months ago. It’s an incredibly busy airspace to operate in.

I refuse to lay blame on political hot button topics because it’s not about politics at this point.

I could list hundreds of contributing factors, but it won’t change the fact that 70ish people have died in a midair.

Aviation is one of the most unforgiving industries out there. A critical mistake in a critical phase of flight will result in a fatal accident the majority of the time.

I have friends who know that 60 crew pretty well and it’s unfortunate.

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When the Lord wants you, fault and politics are not on His checklist.

Condolences to you, know it hits home.

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Originally Posted by cajun4life

Both followed instructions, the Blackhawk crew messed up.

I have 2000.2 hours in a UH60M, my former unit just left there 4 months ago. It’s an incredibly busy airspace to operate in.

I refuse to lay blame on political hot button topics because it’s not about politics at this point.

I could list hundreds of contributing factors, but it won’t change the fact that 70ish people have died in a midair.

Aviation is one of the most unforgiving industries out there. A critical mistake in a critical phase of flight will result in a fatal accident the majority of the time.

I have friends who know that 60 crew pretty well and it’s unfortunate.

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Thanks for the insight. I find it hard to believe the powers that be thought that this arrangement was a good idea. Choppers at max 200 feet flying under a glideslope to a busy airport like DCA. It's a wonder that this hasn't happened sooner. I wonder why the chopper went to 400 ft. I would hope the chopper had both CVR and FDR.