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SlickRick
saw this the other day, this stuff is out of hand.
Re: Independent NIL agents
These NIL Agents are working the system that has evolved. Coaches, schools, and donors have embraced NIL, to win at all costs. NIL created a market for "agents" to identify talent with value and find schools willing to invest because rules do not exist. Make calls, find the bag, hype the bag to the player, player transfers, make money. Some of the coaches complaining simply aren't sincere in their complaints, they just realize they don't have enough people to step up to fill bags and now they are upset.
Re: Independent NIL agents
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Originally Posted by
RaginCajun77
These NIL Agents are working the system that has evolved. Coaches, schools, and donors have embraced NIL, to win at all costs. NIL created a market for "agents" to identify talent with value and find schools willing to invest because rules do not exist. Make calls, find the bag, hype the bag to the player, player transfers, make money. Some of the coaches complaining simply aren't sincere in their complaints, they just realize they don't have enough people to step up to fill bags and now they are upset.
90% of these agents dont have Kids best interest in mind. Quick payday and move on. They dont care if kid makes wrong decision long term.
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The agents are just money grubbing grifters....and 77 thinks coaches are insincere with their complaints. Really?
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Originally Posted by
SlickRick
The agents are just money grubbing grifters....and 77 thinks coaches are insincere with their complaints. Really?
Yes, I do think some are insincere. It is hard for me to believe the P4 coaches whining are sincere. Give these P4 coaches more bag money to hand out and see how many are still complaining.
Re: Independent NIL agents
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RaginCajun77
Yes, I do think some are insincere. It is hard for me to believe the P4 coaches whining are sincere. Give these P4 coaches more bag money to hand out and see how many are still complaining.
Guy in video is not a P4 coach
Re: Independent NIL agents
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CAJUNSby90
90% of these agents dont have Kids best interest in mind. Quick payday and move on. They dont care if kid makes wrong decision long term.
If you're going to blame the agents then you also have to blame the coaches and universities who are also active participants. My point is there is plenty of blame to go around. I think a lot of people quit caring about a kid making a wrong decision in the era of NIL and it's simply win at all costs.
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I agree with both posters here. These NIL agents are certainly grifters. The sentiment coming from some of the coaches (especially the P4 ones like 77) stated is laughable. I mean Brian Kelly complaining about it all being about the money? Really guy? Like we all forgot about the $5-6 million pay bump you got to leave Notre Dame?
Re: Independent NIL agents
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Originally Posted by
RaginCajun77
If you're going to blame the agents then you also have to blame the coaches and universities who are also active participants. My point is there is plenty of blame to go around. I think a lot of people quit caring about a kid making a wrong decision in the era of NIL and it's simply win at all costs.
I get your point. I feel the lack of care and win at all cost is primarily at the P4 level and it completely ____s us at the G5 level.
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CAJUNSby90
Guy in video is not a P4 coach
TY!
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CAJUNSby90
Guy in video is not a P4 coach
He's the head coach for Colorado State. He's just like us. Trying to keep his players from being raided by P4 programs.
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Bankruptcyman
He's the head coach for Colorado State. He's just like us. Trying to keep his players from being raided by P4 programs.
Bingo, it has to be exhausting to have NIL agents and P4 programs raid your roster year in and year out.
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CAJUNSby90
I get your point. I feel the lack of care and win at all cost is primarily at the P4 level and it completely ____s us at the G5 level.
Agreed. The G5 is absolutely screwed. G5 coaches who develop talent and win can expect their top players to hit the portal once the season is over. It's going to get extremely difficult to build a winning program year over year.
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Any other local vultures pimping our athletes besides this group?
https://www.southerncoastsports.com/
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Cant believe we are getting poached by a great value Ellen Degeneres
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RaginCajun77
Agreed. The G5 is absolutely screwed. G5 coaches who develop talent and win can expect their top players to hit the portal once the season is over. It's going to get extremely difficult to build a winning program year over year.
The G5 essentially becomes a league for very talented sophomores, and there is no expectation that they hang around for longer than that.
Rosters will be filled with talented freshmen/sophomores, plus upper classmen who aren’t quite cutting it at an elite level school.
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BabbForHeisman
The G5 essentially becomes a league for very talented sophomores, and there is no expectation that they hang around for longer than that.
Rosters will be filled with talented freshmen/sophomores, plus upper classmen who aren’t quite cutting it at an elite level school.
I wish they could install some kind of tranfer fee system, where the schools who's player gets poached gets some financial comp. Wishful thinking, it'll never happen
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facelessjonmoon
A bunch of ____ing grifters!
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BabbForHeisman
The G5 essentially becomes a league for very talented sophomores, and there is no expectation that they hang around for longer than that.
Rosters will be filled with talented freshmen/sophomores, plus upper classmen who aren’t quite cutting it at an elite level school.
The system is set up. There's no going back now. Many people on here said that if UL could reach that playoff spot, that would springboard them into better recruiting, better attendance, better everything. Basically they would level up and close the gap between themselves and the P4 teams.
The reality is that if UL made that game, they would have even more players in the portal trying to capitalize on their play this year.
The real race is going to be which G5 teams can solidify themselves as a brand of lower-priced but competitive athletic entertainment in a sport where they will NEVER compete at the highest level.
The only people looking over our shoulder to check what we're doing are these agents and scouts from other teams... So you might as well have fun with your brand and turn it into something that people want to see every week, regardless of the talent level on the field.
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CAJUNSby90
I wish they could install some kind of tranfer fee system, where the schools who's player gets poached gets some financial comp. Wishful thinking, it'll never happen
That’s the only thing that will solve issue but I think that’s will come down to making the players employees and have contracts.
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CAJUNSby90
^^^
Cant believe we are getting poached by a great value Ellen Degeneres
...and this upstanding citizen.
https://theind.com/articles/5529/
Re: Independent NIL agents
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SlickRick
Yeah, Id 100% trust that guy to secure the best deal for me. What a clown show
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It looks as if 4 year universities’ athletic departments need to plan like a 2 year junior college. Kid stays longer, it’s a bonus.
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No compete clauses are legal.