Recruiting: ULM vs. Louisiana Football

ULM new head football coach has used the transfer portal more so then Louisiana.

ULM has signed 15 players out of the transfer portal as opposed to us who has only signed 4 out of the transfer portal.

The new ULM coach is trying to put them on the fast track to winning. Instead of the ground up like Louisiana.

In the new age of the transfer portal in college sports where players can decide to transfer out. Last year TXST. signed 40 transfer players including TJ Finley and improved there record to 8-4.

ULM has signed General Booty from Oklahoma with 15 transfer players signing with ULM.

Is Louisiana doing the right thing when it comes to recruiting?

I think ULM will be much improved this coming year, and will have a tougher team specially with a new coach coming in.

This will not be the usual ULM team. I personally think this coach is trying to move up and ia very motivated to win.

Thoughts?

Packing your team with transfers can be a crap shoot. Remember, they are leaving their prior school for a reason and if they are transferring to ULM, or UL, for that matter, it's not for NIL.

Texas State was an example of it working. There are several examples of it not working. I'd venture to say more of it not working for teams outside of the "power" conferences.

Des' MO seems to be sustainability and for the most part it's worked. Back-to-back seasons of the same results. Only using the portal when it's necessary and retaining players that they recruited. Let's see if it works out better this year. If it doesn't, well, many will be asking to go back to the drawing board. And it would be justified coming off of the Napier run of tremendous success.

Okay but look at our softball and baseball recruting. To me this is how we have stayed competitive in these sports, and are top 25 programs.

How many players have transferred to Louisiana in these sports?

I tried to find it but i know we do it specially in the diamond sports.

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Originally Posted by Ragin9221

ULM new head football coach has used the transfer portal more so then Louisiana.

ULM has signed 15 players out of the transfer portal as opposed to us who has only signed 4 out of the transfer portal.

The new ULM coach is trying to put them on the fast track to winning. Instead of the ground up like Louisiana.

In the new age of the transfer portal in college sports where players can decide to transfer out. Last year TXST. signed 40 transfer players including TJ Finley and improved there record to 8-4.

ULM has signed General Booty from Oklahoma with 15 transfer players signing with ULM.

Is Louisiana doing the right thing when it comes to recruiting?

I think ULM will be much improved this coming year, and will have a tougher team specially with a new coach coming in.

This will not be the usual ULM team. I personally think this coach is trying to move up and ia very motivated to win.

Thoughts?

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Bryant Vincent is a solid coach that got screwed over by UAB. I think he is the most legit coach they have had since Berry. From what I understand he is letting ulm be the last chance U of D1. The plan is to help these kids get back on their feet and to bigger schools if they want. It's a crap shoot but for ulm what do they have to lose.

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Originally Posted by RaginScotsman

Packing your team with transfers can be a crap shoot. Remember, they are leaving their prior school for a reason and if they are transferring to ULM, or UL, for that matter, it's not for NIL.

Texas State was an example of it working. There are several examples of it not working. I'd venture to say more of it not working for teams outside of the "power" conferences.

Des' MO seems to be sustainability and for the most part it's worked. Back-to-back seasons of the same results. Only using the portal when it's necessary and retaining players that they recruited. Let's see if it works out better this year. If it doesn't, well, many will be asking to go back to the drawing board. And it would be justified coming off of the Napier run of tremendous success.

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Back to back losing seasons is not "working out"

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Originally Posted by cajun_lannister

Back to back losing seasons is not "working out"

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Hey, it's worked. Didn't say it was good, but it achieved consistency.

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Originally Posted by cajun_lannister

Back to back losing seasons is not "working out"

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Back to back losing seasons directly after the previous coach had back to back top 16 finishes is definitely not "working out"

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Originally Posted by RaginScotsman

Hey, it's worked. Didn't say it was good, but it achieved consistency.

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Got me there lol

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Originally Posted by cajun_lannister

Back to back losing seasons is not "working out"

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Have to agree. Coach Naps has shunned the portal and this might be his last year at Florida. Ignoring the portal means your also ignoring the fact any players worth a crap might leave for greener pasteurs.

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Originally Posted by Ragin9221

ULM new head football coach has used the transfer portal more so then Louisiana.

ULM has signed 15 players out of the transfer portal as opposed to us who has only signed 4 out of the transfer portal.

The new ULM coach is trying to put them on the fast track to winning. Instead of the ground up like Louisiana.

In the new age of the transfer portal in college sports where players can decide to transfer out. Last year TXST. signed 40 transfer players including TJ Finley and improved there record to 8-4.

ULM has signed General Booty from Oklahoma with 15 transfer players signing with ULM.

Is Louisiana doing the right thing when it comes to recruiting?

I think ULM will be much improved this coming year, and will have a tougher team specially with a new coach coming in.

This will not be the usual ULM team. I personally think this coach is trying to move up and ia very motivated to win.

Thoughts?

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Left out a small tiny detail.

You have to lose a lot of players to the portal to have room to sign a lot of players from the portal ......true ULM signed 15.

But they also lost 28 players via portal. Many were starters or 2 deep contributors. UL lost 5, 3 were bench warmers. We signed 5.....5th joins team in summer. DL from Ball State. All 5 have a good shot at being in our 2 deep by fall

This is how i think of it. Could a 3rd or 4th string at Bama, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia start here at Louisiana? I think so. Just like a super star athlete that transfers out of a school who goes to a more successful school that either chases NIL deal, or can start for a bigger name school.

I think it works both ways.


Coaches dont like it because it takes the power out of the coaches and puts it in to the player.

Thats what these coaches have to realize.

As a coach do not soften your coaching style or your team management, if a athlete doesnt like it then he/she has a choice to make.

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Originally Posted by Policarp

Left out a small tiny detail.

You have to lose a lot of players to the portal to have room to sign a lot of players from the portal ......true ULM signed 15.

But they also lost 28 players via portal. Many were starters or 2 deep contributors. UL lost 5, 3 were bench warmers. We signed 5.....5th joins team in summer. DL from Ball State. All 5 have a good shot at being in our 2 deep by fall

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that is not aging well

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Originally Posted by Ragin9221

ULM new head football coach has used the transfer portal more so then Louisiana.

ULM has signed 15 players out of the transfer portal as opposed to us who has only signed 4 out of the transfer portal.

The new ULM coach is trying to put them on the fast track to winning. Instead of the ground up like Louisiana.

In the new age of the transfer portal in college sports where players can decide to transfer out. Last year TXST. signed 40 transfer players including TJ Finley and improved there record to 8-4.

ULM has signed General Booty from Oklahoma with 15 transfer players signing with ULM.

Is Louisiana doing the right thing when it comes to recruiting?

I think ULM will be much improved this coming year, and will have a tougher team specially with a new coach coming in.

This will not be the usual ULM team. I personally think this coach is trying to move up and ia very motivated to win.

Thoughts?

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For me, there isn't enough data yet to show the long-term effects yet. There is no doubt it can be a one or two year fix, but are you sacrificing years 3, 4 and 5?

My gut tells me that to have success year in and year out, you have to have significant continuity, and then fill in where there are weaknesses.

In ULM's case, there are a lot of weaknesses to address, so might be a good one year fix, I just don't see building a consistent program this way.

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Originally Posted by Ragin9221

In the new age of the transfer portal in college sports where players can decide to transfer out. Last year TXST. signed 40 transfer players including TJ Finley and improved there record to 8-4.

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Who does TJ play for today?

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

Who does TJ play for today?

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I think he is at wku now.

Well lets look at Zeon Chris he only played a year. We recruited him out of high school.

These kids owe us no loyalty. It has always been a job and always been about money.

I know the fan doesnt want to see it that way, but that goes from the coach all the way down to the players.

Some businesses can pay more and offer more then other businesses.

Obviously it went so far that another program(business) was offering him and trying to get him into the transfer portal to offer him a NIL deal to sign(get hired for more money) with that program(business).

Which is illegal and unethical, but it was still done.

Just a reality ! Now it is cutthroat, and wide open for the world to see.


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Originally Posted by Scott Malkinson

From what I understand he is letting ulm be the last chance U of D1. The plan is to help these kids get back on their feet and to bigger schools if they want. It's a crap shoot but for ulm what do they have to lose.

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Every G5 in the country is now "last chance U".. who succeeds will depend on who accepts it faster

I would bet against us being on the leading edge of anything

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

I think he is at wku now.

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Somehow TX State failed upwards with that debacle.

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Originally Posted by jaxmc1023

Every G5 in the country is now "last chance U".. who succeeds will depend on who accepts it faster

I would bet against us being on the leading edge of anything

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A lot of kids still want playing time. I would be raiding 2nd - 3rd string blue bloods.

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Originally Posted by Scott Malkinson

A lot of kids still want playing time. I would be raiding 2nd - 3rd string blue bloods.

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Exactly! How many kids sign with big schools that ride the bench who will never ever get playing time? They see the big program, the 90k seat stadium and sell out crowds and say i got a scholarship to a big school, and never play?


How many kids are mis-evaluated and remain on the practice squad?

How many kids ride the bench because coaches show favoritism towards another player, or maybe they were never put in a game situation and excel if given an opportunity?

This happens every year!!

We need to find these players and give them a chance, and if we did that and pick up the right players we would be ahead of the pack.

lots of “ifs”

I’m running into more and more former fervent donors across multiple universities that, due to NIL, are done and walked away. A common theme is they’re putting up money for their own child to attend college yet their program needs 6 figure money to give an athlete with zero loyalty. That P2 money will only go so far in time.

It will all crash and burn one day.

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Originally Posted by Big Buds

Who does TJ play for today?

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TJ left because they brought in a stud QB from AZ who enrolled and left a few days later. Now TX ST has the reining sunbelt player of the year on their rooster QB from JMU.

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Originally Posted by CajunVic

lots of “ifs”

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"ifs" have always been a part of the game.

"ifs" and inches.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

"ifs" have always been a part of the game.

"ifs" and inches.

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the game is the game, no if’s ands or buts . . .