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Mid Majors vs. Transfer Portal
Will mid majors just become a breading ground for P5 schools ? Almost looking like a Minor League farm system with players going to the highest bidder after 1 - 2 years at a mid major. This has already gone too far and to the point where it's too late to turn back. Terrible for NCAA athletics.
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Not when you consider the talent available in the portal to back fill anyone leaving. All sorts of reasons why players want out...get closer to home, better school, girlfriends, playing time, its not all about the $$$.
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Originally Posted by
babysitter
Will mid majors just become a breading ground for P5 schools ? Almost looking like a Minor League farm system with players going to the highest bidder after 1 - 2 years at a mid major. This has already gone too far and to the point where it's too late to turn back. Terrible for NCAA athletics.
It could go spectacularly wrong for many P5's whacking the piñata. Let's take Mekhi Garner. Going to LSU. He has not seen anywhere near the caliber of WR's while playing here. He has one offseason, and previously attained bad habits to deal with. If he starts...he's going to be brutalized by the SEC. That goes for everyone but the RB's. The learning curve is going to destroy them...and they will regret it. Karma...is a _____.
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cajunhawk
It could go spectacularly wrong for many P5's whacking the piñata. Let's take Mekhi Garner. Going to LSU. He has not seen anywhere near the caliber of WR's while playing here. He has one offseason, and previously attained bad habits to deal with. If he starts...he's going to be brutalized by the SEC. That goes for everyone but the RB's. The learning curve is going to destroy them...and they will regret it. Karma...is a _____.
If his aspirations are the NFL, then he will eventually need to test himself against the best. Good luck to him.
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What could go wrong?
They just took a starter from an in-state school that has been ranked ahead of them for two consecutive seasons. I’d say it is a win for them regardless if the player contributes or not, worst case they stole a big contributor from a competing school. No real loss for the big money schools if he doesn’t pan out, on to the next kids. The player is the one who will have regret if it doesn’t work out.
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Originally Posted by
babysitter
Will mid majors just become a breading ground for P5 schools ? Almost looking like a Minor League farm system with players going to the highest bidder after 1 - 2 years at a mid major. This has already gone too far and to the point where it's too late to turn back. Terrible for NCAA athletics.
It depends how you look at it.
Everything in the recruiting wars is a fixed length straw.
They sign a player on one end and spit one out on the other end.
Kinda like getting an OL from a Michigan school.
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cajun55
What could go wrong?
They just took a starter from an in-state school that has been ranked ahead of them for two consecutive seasons.
I really hate to see a player leave UL and move to a lesser performing program. Never thought I’d see the day UL could actually say that and be fact about State.
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Originally Posted by
cajunhawk
It could go spectacularly wrong for many P5's whacking the piñata. Let's take Mekhi Garner. Going to LSU. He has not seen anywhere near the caliber of WR's while playing here. He has one offseason, and previously attained bad habits to deal with. If he starts...he's going to be brutalized by the SEC. That goes for everyone but the RB's. The learning curve is going to destroy them...and they will regret it. Karma...is a _____.
People said the same thing about Tracy Walker. He's more than holding his own in Detroit.
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There are some first year dynamics going on with the transfer portal (no one year sit out) and NIL. There is definitely some gluttony going on right now, which is not unexpected, but I would expect it to level out over the next two years.
The reason it will level out is there will be a lot more information on both sides on what is true and not, as well as, what is working and what is not.
I really don't see any significant changes on NIL, but perhaps the transfer portal rules can be adjusted.
It will come down to if the P5s feel there are more pros than cons for them.
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This could work out to UL's advantage on getting quality players out of high school.
"Not getting the offers you want?
"Louisiana can get you the best exposure in the country."
NFL caliber exposure.
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The top P5's have nothing to lose all to gain, the G5's lose their best starters each year. Sounds like G5's won't be able to compete on the field, especially against P5's. Another plus for the P5's. UL is now essentially a Junior College athletically with a R1 designated University academically.
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Originally Posted by
cajunhawk
It could go spectacularly wrong for many P5's whacking the piñata. Let's take Mekhi Garner. Going to LSU. He has not seen anywhere near the caliber of WR's while playing here. He has one offseason, and previously attained bad habits to deal with. If he starts...he's going to be brutalized by the SEC. That goes for everyone but the RB's. The learning curve is going to destroy them...and they will regret it. Karma...is a _____.
In LSU's particular case, they are so depleted at CB, that Garner is a good pickup for them, as they need depth and quality.
In general, I agree with your points, especially if a G5 'stud' is going to P5 powerhouse.
Of all the transfers, I think Bailey could be the biggest winner. He could be the featured back, at a P5 school. I am not sure of Des' thoughts on rotating RB's, so that could be a big benefit for him.
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ULGrad@HOU
The top P5's have nothing to lose all to gain, the G5's lose their best starters each year. Sounds like G5's won't be able to compete on the field, especially against P5's. Another plus for the P5's. UL is now essentially a Junior College athletically with a R1 designated University academically.
There are members of their #1 ranked classes that they never developed (or even tried to develop) that will be available to Louisiana.
The talent graveyard that is the P5 is, about to grow by leaps and bounds.
The opportunity for Louisiana will never be greater.
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Turbine
There are members of their #1 ranked classes that they never developed (or even tried to develop) that will be available to Louisiana.
The talent graveyard that is the P5 is, about to grow by leaps and bounds.
The opportunity for Louisiana will never be greater.
UL's best players, the ones we lost > The P5 players never getting playing time.
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Turbine
There are members of their #1 ranked classes that they never developed (or even tried to develop) that will be available to Louisiana.
The talent graveyard that is the P5 is, about to grow by leaps and bounds.
The opportunity for Louisiana will never be greater.
The only hope UL has is to mirror LSU's strategy... They are going after Louisiana guys who went out of state or to other schools. UL should be looking for SEC and BIG12 portal guys who are from Louisiana.
The other strategy should be to target 2/3 of your class from the portal. Once a player has transferred, he will have to sit a year if he chooses to transfer again. This makes portal guys more dependable than HS recruits.
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Originally Posted by
ULGrad@HOU
The top P5's have nothing to lose all to gain, the G5's lose their best starters each year. Sounds like G5's won't be able to compete on the field, especially against P5's. Another plus for the P5's. UL is now essentially a Junior College athletically with a R1 designated University academically.
It is still a zero sum game, unless the number of scholarships go up OR there are D1 recruits that forgo a scholarship because they are getting so much NIL money.
Players who are 'next in line' at a P5 program that get denied an opportunity to a transfer portal player will start looking. It is a waterfall effect and I think G5 teams might be able to cherry pick the portal, especially after Spring practices when I expect the next wave to hit.
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Originally Posted by
Rainman66
It is still a zero sum game, unless the number of scholarships go up OR there are D1 recruits that forgo a scholarship because they are getting so much NIL money.
Players who are 'next in line' at a P5 program that get denied an opportunity to a transfer portal player will start looking. It is a waterfall effect and I think G5 teams might be able to cherry pick the portal, especially after Spring practices when I expect the next wave to hit.
I like your "waterfall effect" description because that is exactly what will occur.
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Most of our players will sit behind better talent at p5’s and the p5’s will have transfers that sat behind the same talent. It’s a matter of wether or not Dez wants to get guys in the portal. I’m getting the feeling he doesn’t but if it gets bad enough he may have too.
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Jacob81
Most of our players will sit behind better talent at p5’s and the p5’s will have transfers that sat behind the same talent. It’s a matter of wether or not Dez wants to get guys in the portal. I’m getting the feeling he doesn’t but if it gets bad enough he may have too.
Recruiting the portal should not be a knee-jerk response, but part of an overall plan. Some years may be more applicable than others. There is a need to balance HS and portal scholarships.
I am not a fan of one year left players (they would need to be immediate and high impact players). It has already been said, but if there are players in there that you recruited already and have a good feel for, that seems to make the most sense.
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ULGrad@HOU
UL's best players, the ones we lost > The P5 players never getting playing time.
Pure speculation.
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Originally Posted by
Rainman66
Recruiting the portal should not be a knee-jerk response, but part of an overall plan. Some years may be more applicable than others. There is a need to balance HS and portal scholarships.
I am not a fan of one year left players (they would need to be immediate and high impact players). It has already been said, but if there are players in there that you recruited already and have a good feel for, that seems to make the most sense.
In general, I feel better about those who have graduated. More mature I’ve had enough discipline to get their degree and you have a better idea of what they can contribute.
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I would take two kind of guys in the portal: 1. Guys I recruited out of high school who have potential and still have 3 or 4 years left. 2. Grad transfers that fill immediate needs.
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CajunEXPRESS
Pure speculation.
99% of what is said on this forum is speculation.
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cajunhawk
It could go spectacularly wrong for many P5's whacking the piñata. Let's take Mekhi Garner. Going to LSU. He has not seen anywhere near the caliber of WR's while playing here. He has one offseason, and previously attained bad habits to deal with. If he starts...he's going to be brutalized by the SEC. That goes for everyone but the RB's. The learning curve is going to destroy them...and they will regret it. Karma...is a _____.
Garner will play on Sundays. He will be solid for Lsu
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Rainman66
In LSU's particular case, they are so depleted at CB, that Garner is a good pickup for them, as they need depth and quality.
In general, I agree with your points, especially if a G5 'stud' is going to P5 powerhouse.
Of all the transfers, I think Bailey could be the biggest winner. He could be the featured back, at a P5 school. I am not sure of Des' thoughts on rotating RB's, so that could be a big benefit for him.
I can think a number of busts at the Grad Transfer level, little Wes Welker type from the MAC who went to Alabama...and did nothing. Torched his draft stock.
Edit: Dieter was his name. Didn't get drafted, practice squad for the Chiefs.