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NCAA failed to pass the proposed rule expanding paid coaching staffs by one today. AD's didn't like it that the proposal changed from adding staff to converting a volunteer coach to paid. Why pay them when they work for free, I guess.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stor...ion-i-council/
Weren’t we banking on this passing, so that Bab could move back into the dugout with Wells and JT? (Even tho he’s in the dugout during games anyway)
No, so we could pay freemanQuote:
Originally Posted by GeauxLouisiana
Pathetic that P5 programs sunk this proposal, mainly because they didn't want to spend the money and because the concern of having to do the same for softball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad04
This is a bull____ outcome.
Gonna make some pretty big names in college baseball available soon
or when the big boys have ways to pay them under the table.....see also director of operations, operations correinator, video coordinator, and yes shockingly enough even in some cases adminstrative assistant........p.s. has anyone wondered why the director of operations, usually has coaching in the resume, and/or they pursue coaching position after....why arent operations professionals getting these jobs? (another place to hide an extra coach)
Shame on the Big10 and Big12. Not a good look for 2 power conferences.
They were worried it would open pandora's with Title 9Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFan
but they would also big giving the big boys more power to pay even more folks even more, eventually enough to shut down small programs completely, then how would those futures look for next generation of youngsters.
whats next 40 scholarships? how many good players would then choose small programs? are we even sure they arent getting 40 now, does anyone ever see the checks the “walk ons” allegedly pay the skools for tuition since they arent on scholarship
The Sun Belt voted yes
found this.......pay attn to “corporate sponsorship” and i was surprised to see the volunteer may recruit more than we realized.....
“The "third assistant" or "volunteer assistant" as it's often called, is paid from other sources available to the program. Typical sources include camp revenues, corporate sponsorship (i.e. equipment contracts), and radio/TV shows. It's also not unusual for third assistants to serve as paid clinic/camp instructors and/or summer team coaches when their college duties don't conflict.
As you might imagine, the compensation associated with these third assistantships can vary quite a bit from program to program; depending upon the size and number of non-university revenue sources associated with each program. However, they are invariably full-time, paid assistantships; causing the term "volunteer assistant" to be a misnomer. Because of this, more and more programs are dropping the "volunteer" part and referring to this person simply as an "assistant coach."
As full-time assistants, they are usually asked to be involved in a wide range of coaching responsibilities; although, their background will tend to cause them to spend more time on either the hitting or pitching side of the coaching to be done.
More often than not, they are given a full seat at the coaching table. However, there is one enforced distinction from the NCAA: They usually cannot travel expressly for recruiting purposes. I say "usually" because the actual regulation stipulates that no more than 3 coaches may be designated as traveling recruiters. However, they can be actively engaged in correspondence with recruits (subject to other general restrictions, of course), and they can recruit when on their own campus. “
thread after thread about the sun belt’s poor decisions and how we need to leave......but now you think they voted correctly on an sec proposed bill?Quote:
Originally Posted by raginsaints
....turns out the “grad assistant” doesnt have to be a graduate school student after all.... hmmm more wool pulled over our eyes all this time, but that certainly clears up a lot of questions.
How will this make coaches leave? Thats an interesting point! Thanks in advance!Quote:
Originally Posted by lifetimecajun
Now I understand and totally agree! Why NOT Give the Individual programs/Universities/Conferences the OPTION? Wow, Big12 and Big10, wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin4U
Well clearly I’m disappointed, but that didn’t fail exclusively by two conferences. There’s 3 P5 in addition, and all the G5 and FCS also in Div I baseball.
It did not fail exclusively by 2, BUT:Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS
P5 leagues got 4 votes each, G5 2 each, and everyone else 1.
We paying one we don’t want, why do we need to pay another.
No freaking doubt. The rule is irrelevant to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunVic
Maybe it will force the hand. IMO, if you are on staff and cannot contribute in multiple facets of the game, you need to be seriously evaluated. I also do not think Bab is immune to this. I guarantee you that several programs have coaches that just aren't in uniform in that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad04
Well, if you replace the one you don't want how in the heck do you pay someone decent? The problem is, outside of football baseball has the second largest roster in college athletics. But, you can only have 3 paid assistants for your student athletes. Makes very little sense period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad04
A quick internet search came up with this Volunteer Coach rules sheet from Xavier University.Quote:
Originally Posted by 31Ragin97