Hudspeth Firing: Why The Timing Is Crucial
Economy
It's coming. It's ramping up. I've been doing directional consulting in PB and the Eagleford. The work load is 2014-esque. Prices have slowly trended up in 2017, but 2018 is poised to be big. Just one operator I've done work for has commissioned 50 additional land rigs by the end of April 2018. That's commissioned, not "planned". LNG is strong and holes are being punched. There are guys I trust within the industry forecasting $3.50 - 3.80, and even the magical $4 number. GOM will not bounce back as fast, but job numbers will steadily trickle up.
Donors and Attendance
I've not been able to get a specific number (rumor is 200 donors down), and it is true that people tend to give at the end of the year, but the fact is, our numbers are down. Amounts and people actually giving money. For example, we've gone from 88 RV Tailgating spots and a substantial waiting list to 66 RV tailgating spots and no waiting list. The is a big deal. As you guys know, we've always been known to attract the TGers. When these casual folks stop coming and stop paying, that is indicative of a much larger problem. QB club attendance is dismal as well. A 16k fan season average is a colossal failure on so many levels, but it's a message to the ADs office. The community has spoken. Bowl or no bowl.
Football Calendar
Early signing period is a few days away. How can you possibly recruit with a Lame Duck HC? If 247sports is any indication, you can't. We have no one lining up to play football here. Furthermore, this will be our first year off of probation. We need someone in place to go out and get the absolute most out of our full allotment of scholarships. We need to rebuild the guts of this football team. With a fresh start this week, maybe we can even salvage the early signing period.
2018
We are poised to see basketball do something special this year. Maybe even a tournament run. Why is this important? Galvanizing the fan base. Diamond sports have historically been a bright spot. Why is that important? Listen, heading into the athletic off season with a fan base that is happier, hopeful and ready for a fresh start in the fall is IMPERATIVE to the amount of money folks with their jobs back are willing to give. Things are lining up for a very promising 2018. Give the base something to be excited about throughout the year, and a fully revived football program could be easily attainable. RCAF numbers will increase dramatically. Hopefully, all of the people that reduced donations, promised more donations with the removal of Farmer and new fans coming aboard to see what the new football staff can do will all come to fruition.
It's right here in front of us. Dr. Maggard, don't let indecision torpedo the possibilities. The time is now.
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I keep hearing the buyout is the issue. I can't see how. Leaving aside if there is anyone willing to write a check for it....let's pretend there isn't for a minute.
Hud makes a million or so. The replacement coach will not. Let's say he makes $750,000. That's a $250,000 a year savings that can be used to make the payments on Hud's buyout. In a few years we are even-steven and that's not even factoring in the huge bump in revenue from improved RCAF donations and attendance that we will see from the excitement of a new coach. Any additional monies people are willing to donate to ease the blow is just icing on the cake. This is a no brainer. Hud has lost the fans, and once you do that it's time to move on.
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charliek
I keep hearing the buyout is the issue. I can't see how. Leaving aside if there is anyone willing to write a check for it....let's pretend there isn't for a minute.
Hud makes a million or so. The replacement coach will not. Let's say he makes $750,000. That's a $250,000 a year savings that can be used to make the payments on Hud's buyout. In a few years we are even-steven and that's not even factoring in the huge bump in revenue from improved RCAF donations and attendance that we will see from the excitement of a new coach. Any additional monies people are willing to donate to ease the blow is just icing on the cake. This is a no brainer. Hud has lost the fans, and once you do that it's time to move on.
Here's another thing no one is talking about. Say a new coach comes in and goes back to the NOLA bowl. With an exciting season. Between ticket sales and bowl pay out... Hudspeth's buyout is taken care of just like that.
The buyout is not and never has been in question. The money is there, regardless of any scenario we can drum up to pay this guy off. The Big Check books have been ready to pay him off to leave since the Trump stuff. That is the truth.
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ManAboutTown
Economy
It's coming. It's ramping up. I've been doing directional consulting in PB and the Eagleford. The work load is 2014-esque. Prices have slowly trended up in 2017, but 2018 is poised to be big. Just one operator I've done work for has commissioned 50 additional land rigs by the end of April 2018. That's commissioned, not "planned". LNG is strong and holes are being punched. There are guys I trust within the industry forecasting $3.50 - 3.80, and even the magical $4 number. GOM will not bounce back as fast, but job numbers will steadily trickle up.
Donors and Attendance
I've not been able to get a specific number (rumor is 200 donors down), and it is true that people tend to give at the end of the year, but the fact is, our numbers are down. Amounts and people actually giving money. For example, we've gone from 88 RV Tailgating spots and a substantial waiting list to 66 RV tailgating spots and no waiting list. The is a big deal. As you guys know, we've always been known to attract the TGers. When these casual folks stop coming and stop paying, that is indicative of a much larger problem. QB club attendance is dismal as well. A 16k fan season average is a colossal failure on so many levels, but it's a message to the ADs office. The community has spoken. Bowl or no bowl.
Football Calendar
Early signing period is a few days away. How can you possibly recruit with a Lame Duck HC? If 247sports is any indication, you can't. We have no one lining up to play football here. Furthermore, this will be our first year off of probation. We need someone in place to go out and get the absolute most out of our full allotment of scholarships. We need to rebuild the guts of this football team. With a fresh start this week, maybe we can even salvage the early signing period.
2018
We are poised to see basketball do something special this year. Maybe even a tournament run. Why is this important? Galvanizing the fan base. Diamond sports have historically been a bright spot. Why is that important? Listen, heading into the athletic off season with a fan base that is happier, hopeful and ready for a fresh start in the fall is IMPERATIVE to the amount of money folks with their jobs back are willing to give. Things are lining up for a very promising 2018. Give the base something to be excited about throughout the year, and a fully revived football program could be easily attainable. RCAF numbers will increase dramatically. Hopefully, all of the people that reduced donations, promised more donations with the removal of Farmer and new fans coming aboard to see what the new football staff can do will all come to fruition.
It's right here in front of us. Dr. Maggard, don't let indecision torpedo the possibilities. The time is now.
Let me add the R1 classification we will have in 2020 .. can t afford to be rebuilding a team then
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Flat out stopping a HUD firing is the buy out. The morning net isn't there and Hud the did will be the coach next year.
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Why not pay the next coach on a "production" basis? Pay him a base salary of say $75k and then every win he produces is worth $100k to $125k, with a bonus for post season play.
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CajunProud
Why not pay the next coach on a "production" basis? Pay him a base salary of say $75k and then every win he produces is worth $100k to $125k, with a bonus for post season play.
Chances are...any coach you get that agrees to that, will make about $275,000
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The one we have now who can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag would have $575k right now with a possibility of more. Just saying.
I don’t know about everyone else on this board, but most of us who live in the real world don’t get paid if we don’t produce.
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CajunProud
The one we have now who can’t coach his way out of a wet paper bag would have $575k right now with a possibility of more. Just saying.
I don’t know about everyone else on this board, but most of us who live in the real world don’t get paid if we don’t produce.
I'm not saying another coach couldn't make more by winning a few games, I'm saying that any coach worth his salt (and any agent that has a brain) would never agree to a contract like that. Your candidate pool would basically consist of area high school coaches.
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Its unfortunate that they don't list the assistant salaries.
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sportsfanatic21
I'm not saying another coach couldn't make more by winning a few games, I'm saying that any coach worth his salt (and any agent that has a brain) would never agree to a contract like that. Your candidate pool would basically consist of area high school coaches.
This is why it's almost impossible to get such an incentive laden contract. It's the agents.
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ManAboutTown
This is why it's almost impossible to get such an incentive laden contract. It's the agents.
Yep. That's exactly what I was trying to convey.
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fpc4life99
Lets say we bring back any coach, choose one from the past and we never get to 6-6 like we had for so long. Now RCAF is even worse, ticket sells go back to what they were used to. I dont know of anyone willing to fork up substantial pennies for his buyout. The grass isnt always greener on the other side. If hiring a new coach and going 8-4 was that easy, everyone would do it.
Did you see the stadium this past Saturday? No way a new hire doesn't bump everything up for a few years. You are right that we may find ourselves no better off win wise long term, but by then Hud will be off the books and hopefully our professional AD doesn't put us in the same hole again.
We can't afford NOT to fire him. The buyout pales in comparison to the damage to the program another year of attendance and apathy like 2017 would bring. Huds buyout is a sunk cost. We can't afford to let it sink the whole thing.
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ManAboutTown
Its unfortunate that they don't list the assistant salaries.
Best I could find was a 2016 report. It was too long to do the whole conference so I had to do as a PDF. I copied just UL's payroll at that time.
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CajunAmos
Best I could find was a 2016 report. It was too long to do the whole conference so I had to do as a PDF. I copied just UL's payroll at that time.
You see, these numbers are incredibly bad. It's a problem we rarely discuss but when you're DC is making $120k, the 2016 production should have put Mike Lucas up for a HOF spot. This is a minor miracle what took place last season. My god these salaries are awful.
Can we please start a GoFundMe account for Mike to feed his family?? $55k?? You can't live in a trailer park for that!
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I did not want to expose that, but most coaches will give up salary to have more money in the pool for assistants. Les Miles was notorious for slight increases in his salary, but huge increases for his staff.
The disproportion of HUD's salary to his assistants is comical.
If a $1,000,000 head coach gives up 200k and contributes that to the assistant pool, that money goes a lot further.
No wonder he named Munoz the OC a few years back, we couldn't afford to hire an outsider. Seems like HUD likes to thrift shop for assistants.
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Which 2 assistants were being paid by Auburn last year? Melvin Smith & Harbin? That could be why some of those salaries are at a reduced rate.
