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Interesting football scheduling
Saw this and thought it was an interesting way for a big name team to schedule other schools in their state. Seems like a win-win for everyone. Wish LSU would do something like this:
Michigan State announces unique FB series
Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:24am
Michigan State has reached an agreement to play four games each against in-state MAC schools, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, and Western Michigan over a 10-year period, the school announced today on its official website. The Spartans will travel to each MAC school as part of the agreement.
The Spartans will play it's 3 in-state counterparts as part of a "Celebrate The State" concept in 12 games from 2011-2020.
Michigan State will host Central Michigan in 2011, 2015, and 2018, and travel to Mount Pleasant in 2012.
The Spartans will host Eastern Michigan in 2012, 2014, and 2016, while playing in Ypsilanti in either 2018 or 2020, marking its first trip there since 1899.
Western Michigan will travel to Michigan State in 2013, 2017, and 2019, and host the Spartans in Kalamazoo in 2015 -- for the first time since 1905.
GEAUX CAJUNS!
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Re: Interesting football scheduling
From a financial standpoint, it just doesn't make sense for LSU to travel to Monroe, Ruston or Lafayette to play in front of 30,000-40,000 fans when they can sell 90,000+ tickets while hosting the game in Baton Rouge. Most LSU fans that I know would like to have the 10 year series with Tulance cancelled ASAP. Now, I do like the rotation to play in-state schools on a consistent basis. Michigan State has always played second fiddle to Michigan, and I doubt you will see the Wolverines strike a similar deal anytime soon.
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bballholic
_ From a financial standpoint, it just doesn't make sense for LSU to travel to Monroe, Ruston or Lafayette to play in front of 30,000-40,000 fans when they can sell 90,000+ tickets while hosting the game in Baton Rouge. Most LSU fans that I know would like to have the 10 year series with Tulance cancelled ASAP. Now, I do like the rotation to play in-state schools on a consistent basis. Michigan State has always played second fiddle to Michigan, and I doubt you will see the Wolverines strike a similar deal anytime soon. _
From a financial standpoint, LSU (a state school) could play their one OOC game in the state and keep the money here (at other state schools), but looking at history, helping state schools other than LSU is against Louisiana policy.
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CajunRage
_ From a financial standpoint, LSU (a state school) could play their one OOC road game in the state and keep the money here (at other state schools), but looking at history, helping state schools other than LSU is against Louisiana policy. _
meant to hit edit instead of quote... i added "road" game
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CajunRage
_ From a financial standpoint, LSU (a state school) could play their one OOC game in the state and keep the money here (at other state schools), but looking at history, helping state schools other than LSU is against Louisiana policy. _
I don't see Florida going to FAU, Bama going to Troy, UT going to MTSU, UT going to UNT, etc. Sorry, I'd rather make the road trip to Seattle, Tuscon, Temple, Morgantown, Blacksburg, etc. Let's see, open up the 2010 season with UNC in Atlanta or play ULM in Monroe? Travel to Morgantown in 2011 or play in Ruston. In order to schedule series with teams like Arizona, Arizona State, Va Tech, Washington, West Virginia it's imperative that LSU schedule a home and away series with these schools. I'm all for LSU playing in-state schools, but not outside of Baton Rouge or New Orleans.
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bballholic
_ I don't see Florida going to FAU, Bama going to Troy, UT going to MTSU, UT going to UNT, etc. Sorry, I'd rather make the road trip to Seattle, Tuscon, Temple, Morgantown, Blacksburg, etc. Let's see, open up the 2010 season with UNC in Atlanta or play ULM in Monroe? Travel to Morgantown in 2011 or play in Ruston. In order to schedule series with teams like Arizona, Arizona State, Va Tech, Washington, West Virginia it's imperative that LSU schedule a home and away series with these schools. I'm all for LSU playing in-state schools, but not outside of Baton Rouge or New Orleans. _
He was simply commending MSU on their willingness to get out and travel to some of the other state schools. I doubt it is financially beneficial to them also but they're doing it. I know this is not the norm, but rather the exception, so it doesn't really bother me but I do not know what LSU is receiving to go to Washington to open the season so I won't pretend to make something up but I have to believe its not done for financial reasons.
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zephyr
I do not know what LSU is receiving to go to Washington to open the season so I won't pretend to make something up but I have to believe its not done for financial reasons. _
Well, I know LSU is receiving a return trip from UW in a couple of years. I also know that former LSU chancellor Mark Emmert (he's now at UW) played a significant role in setting up this home and away series. IF LSU wants to bring in BCS teams like Wash, Va Tech, Arizona, Arizona St, West Virginia, etc then it's a must for LSU to travel to these places as well. In the end, money will obviously be the deciding factor in almost every scheduling decision. But like you said, you do have to give MSU some credit for changing things up a bit.
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bballholic
_ Well, I know LSU is receiving a return trip from UW in a couple of years. I also know that former LSU chancellor Mark Emmert (he's now at UW) played a significant role in setting up this home and away series. IF LSU wants to bring in BCS teams like Wash, Va Tech, Arizona, Arizona St, West Virginia, etc then it's a must for LSU to travel to these places as well. In the end, money will obviously be the deciding factor in almost every scheduling decision. But like you said, you do have to give MSU some credit for changing things up a bit. _
LSU doesn't benefit from playing non BCS in state programs on the road. No stadium can seat as much as Tiger stadium, so LSU would lose revenue in playing such games. I think its good their playing in state programs on a rotating basis, until it becomes not in the programs financial interest.
The Cajuns haven't sold their 6,000 ticket allotment for the LSU game, so this might become a problem down the road.
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bballholic
From a financial standpoint, it just doesn't make sense for LSU to travel to Monroe, Ruston or Lafayette to play in front of 30,000-40,000 fans when they can sell 90,000+ tickets while hosting the game in Baton Rouge. Most LSU fans that I know would like to have the 10 year series with Tulance cancelled ASAP. Now, I do like the rotation to play in-state schools on a consistent basis. Michigan State has always played second fiddle to Michigan, and I doubt you will see the Wolverines strike a similar deal anytime soon.
Michigan doesn't have to "strike a similar deal." They already play Western, Central and Eastern Michigan on a rotational basis. Michigan State is doing it for the publicity and trying to steal some of those area's fans away from Michigan.
Michigan is a weird state in that the mid-major schools have their own fan bases, but those fans also cheer for one of the Big 10 schools. Eastern and Central Michigan fans tend to be fans of Michigan while Western Michigan fans tend to gravitate toward Michigan State.
As far as I know, the thing with Michigan and the other state schools is not in writing, though. It's just one of those gentlemen agreements.
I know there's been talk of Michigan playing games at Ford Field against Central or Eastern Michigan, but nothing ever materialized. I think when you have a stadium like Michigan Stadium (or Tiger Stadium), you don't have many better options.
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Bunch24
_ Michigan doesn't have to "strike a similar deal." I think when you have a stadium like Michigan Stadium (or Tiger Stadium), you don't have many better options. _
Exactly.
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bballholic
Exactly.
I gotcha now. I read your post wrong the first time. I thought you were saying Michigan was "above scheduling the directional Michigan schools."
In other scheduling news, what's everyone's thoughts of Notre Dame thinking about scheduling "home" games in New Orleans? Obviously New Orleans is a big Catholic area, but with LSU being as good as they are now, isn't that quite risky for Notre Dame to assume they'd sell out the Superdome against Hawaii or TCU?
Maybe UL could look into a 2-for-1 deal with Notre Dame where they play two at South Bend and one in the Superdome.
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Bunch24
Maybe UL could look into a 2-for-1 deal with Notre Dame where they play two at South Bend and one in the Superdome. _
That would be SWEET! I remember hearing rumblings a few years about ND trying to play a regular season down in N.O. I could be wrong but I could have sworn I heard ND was playing a game in San Antonio this season?
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CajunT
_ LSU doesn't benefit from playing non BCS in state programs on the road. No stadium can seat as much as Tiger stadium, so LSU would lose revenue in playing such games. I think its good their playing in state programs on a rotating basis, until it becomes not in the programs financial interest.
The Cajuns haven't sold their 6,000 ticket allotment for the LSU game, so this might become a problem down the road. _
is this true? i hear the jags are bringing 20K to cajun field, but the cajuns won't buy 6K tix to tiger stadium?
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bballholic
_ That would be SWEET! I could be wrong but I could have sworn I heard ND was playing a game in San Antonio this season? _
A game with UL would be unreal---the largest public Catholic school in the US against Notre Dame----A huge Mass with both Alumni and students on the Sunday after at St Louis Cathedral----What a fabulous deal---maybe a Mass on Saturday morning and a Dome game that night!!!!!
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Sonsissymia
_ is this true? i hear the jags are bringing 20K to cajun field, but the cajuns won't buy 6K tix to tiger stadium? _
They are bringing a lot but they aren't bringing 20K
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CajunT
_ LSU doesn't benefit from playing non BCS in state programs on the road. No stadium can seat as much as Tiger stadium, so LSU would lose revenue in playing such games. I think its good their playing in state programs on a rotating basis, until it becomes not in the programs financial interest.
The Cajuns haven't sold their 6,000 ticket allotment for the LSU game, so this might become a problem down the road. _
Cajun T are they still selling tickets for this game?
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Sonsissymia
_ is this true? i hear the jags are bringing 20K to cajun field, but the cajuns won't buy 6K tix to tiger stadium? _
20K, I'm sure you heard that from Southern fans? My source is the same one that stated Southern hasn't sold their 6k allotment for the game against UL. If they plan on buying walk-up tickets for game, the lines are going to be long.
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Clutch0364
_ Cajun T are they still selling tickets for this game? _
I think the deadline is approaching soon, we will have to return them if not sold.
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CajunT
_ I think the deadline is approaching soon, we will have to return them if not sold. _
I thought it ended on the 14th...oh well ill let a few friends know. Thanks T
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CajunT
20K, I'm sure you heard that from Southern fans? My source is the same one that stated Southern hasn't sold their 6k allotment for the game against UL. If they plan on buying walk-up tickets for game, the lines are going to be long.
I keep hearing the same thing about the 20K Southern fans. If that's the case, then they're going to bring about 5K more than they bring to their own home games because they only average about 15K per game. I think what they're going by is the fact that they bring about 20K to the Bayou Classic and the other Classic game in Houston. That's completely different. Those are "events" with bands and socials and formals. It's like Mardi Gras in November. This is a September football game in Lafayette.
I keep hearing people say there's going to be 40K at the Southern-UL game. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm going to say 30-35K, at the most. I don't think this game approaches the A&M game, and I'll be delighted if I'm wrong. I think Southern will bring probably 6-8K and UL will have 24K-26K.
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Notre Dame is playing Washington St. in San Antonio in October. There was a deal to play Baylor at the Superdome in 2012 (I believe) but, ND decided to pull out of the arrangement before contract was signed. I would have enjoyed making the game.
I really like the idea of neutral site games like Bama vs Clemson/Va Tech. LSU will likely play UNC in Atlanta to kickoff 2010. Not sure if ULL is at the point of being able to play neutral site games but, it would be fun to see since that is the trend in college football.
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Bunch24
_ I keep hearing the same thing about the 20K Southern fans. If that's the case, then they're going to bring about 5K more than they bring to their own home games because they only average about 15K per game. I think what they're going by is the fact that they bring about 20K to the Bayou Classic and the other Classic game in Houston. That's completely different. Those are "events" with bands and socials and formals. It's like Mardi Gras in November. This is a September football game in Lafayette.
I keep hearing people say there's going to be 40K at the Southern-UL game. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm going to say 30-35K, at the most. I don't think this game approaches the A&M game, and I'll be delighted if I'm wrong. I think Southern will bring probably 6-8K and UL will have 24K-26K. _
If the Cajuns have 30K plus in back-to-back games against Southern and K-State, it will be a first in the history of this football program.
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Bunch24
_ I keep hearing the same thing about the 20K Southern fans. If that's the case, then they're going to bring about 5K more than they bring to their own home games because they only average about 15K per game. I think what they're going by is the fact that they bring about 20K to the Bayou Classic and the other Classic game in Houston. That's completely different. Those are "events" with bands and socials and formals. It's like Mardi Gras in November. This is a September football game in Lafayette.
I keep hearing people say there's going to be 40K at the Southern-UL game. I'm sorry, but I'm not buying it. I'm going to say 30-35K, at the most. I don't think this game approaches the A&M game, and I'll be delighted if I'm wrong. I think Southern will bring probably 6-8K and UL will have 24K-26K. _
That's what I've been screaming. It's just not logical to think they will bring that many people when they don't support it at home. Like you said, the "events" that they bring tons of people are areas with large alumni bases and they are in itself "events" usually against another SWAC team for which they have an interest in defeating. I've been skeptical of their ability to bring that many people and I hope they do not. I do not want to play a home game where the visiting crowd and especially their band, will be louder than the home crowd.
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Sonsissymia
_ is this true? i hear the jags are bringing 20K to cajun field, but the cajuns won't buy 6K tix to tiger stadium? _
Well, a big reason for not selling out the allotment is because a lot of our fans have attended a game at Tiger Stadium as the visiting crowd and its not exactly the best experience, I'll leave it at that.
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Clutch0364
_ I thought it ended on the 14th...oh well ill let a few friends know. Thanks T _
The Cajundome was selling tickets to the 9/19 game against Louisiana State last week. They may still have some left.
