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Here, (<a href="https://forumeus.com/showthread.php?p=121675#post121675" target="_blank">LINK</a>) Julie Simon-Dronet makes a disconnected leap in that she asks "Have you heard of the Ragin' Cajuns?" the leap is in trying to connect "heard of" with 'visually recognizable' logo.
I just feel that hearing of something and really knowing what it actually is and/or who it is connected with are 2 different things.
jmo
This UL Logo article is excellent and needs to be more publicized.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
I sent an email right after the Julie Dronet article to Julie and Dr. S about the disconnect between Ragin Cajuns and UL, about the lack of a clearly identifiable logo, about eliminating the inclusion of Lafayette with the University of Louisiana for athletics and in having to ability to purchase university approved gear and merchandise without Lafayette, about the need to build a facility at the athletic complex that sells UL gear & merchandise 7 days a week, every week of the year because of the inaccessability of the UL Bookstore and the remoteness of the athletic complex from the main campus, about the amount of money that could be generated from marketing UL gear without the Lafayette and from sales at this building, and about how athletics is UL's window to the world and that we need to effectively market it and put out a good product, especially in football which we again failed to do, in order to galvanize the community and bring recognition to the university. Neither has responded to date.
DROP THE PEPPER LOGO
DROP THE HOT WHEELS CIRCLE LOGO
KEEP THE FLEUR DE LIS LOGO
KEEP THE UL LOGO
KEEP THE LOUISIANA'S over RAGIN CAJUNS LOGO (like on the batting cage fences at the tigue)
DONE DEAL
YELLOW IS NOT AND HAS NEVER BEEN A SCHOOL COLOR!!!
Why not borrow elements of the flag of Acadiana?
The three fleur-de-lis portion shown below would be simple, elegant, and distinct from the Saints logo:
Why not borrow elements of the flag of Acadiana?
The three fleur-de-lis portion shown below would be simple, elegant, and distinct from the Saints logo:
Damn!!!! I was going to suggest the same thing!!!!!:D
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Originally Posted by RedBug58
"Although I love the Bull Gator, we are only exchanging one disconnect for another. "
The pepper is a disconnect the fleur-de-lis and the Bull Gator are not. The fleur-de-lis has been used to the point of saturation by every school in Louisiana so it is out in every form except offical seals. The Bull Gator is more Louisiana than about anything on the planet and as far as I know is only used at one other school and they don't have live Bull Gators outside their student union. PS I love the Bull Gator too.
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Originally Posted by Terrance
Several months ago on a different thread where we were discussing mascots, someone posted a red Bullgator character with UL on it and named it "Fideaux". I thought that was pretty clever. The mascot looked great and a uniformed mascot could easily be designed. We could build a sanctuary outside Cajun Field where fans could visit. We could name Fideaux. Or, we could call it Louie. Or, we could have 2 Bullgators, a male and a female and name them Louie and Ana, which would fall right into our Louisiana name. We have a swamp on campus with Bullgators in it, we have a football field called The Swamp which fits the theme and we have a Gator Cove for the Soccer and Track & Field complex.
Would whoever posted the Bullgator character please repost it on this thread?
I have to agree with you that the "s" at the end of Louisiana must go. I don't even understand why it was ever used to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
I have to disagree with you on your mascot idea. I would love both the pelican and the bullgator but they are both already used by in state schools. Tulane is using the Pelican as their mascot while UNO uses a gator on theirs (I think). I read that someone else said use a crawfish but that seems kind of childish and silly. Just as silly as a pepper. However, if we do use the Bullgator idea, I think Fideaux is a terible name. It sounds like a name for a dog. We can be more creative than that.
Just my two cents, but it seems like the whole mascot change idea is never going to happen. Julie Dronet, aka The Logo Police, seems like she is in love with the pepper idea. Doesn't seem like changes are coming with the logo/mascot until there is a change in her job.
Only at the start of football season would a Ragin Cajun board be discussing mascots. We could have tinkerbell as our mascot if we win I'm happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
Anything to avoid talking about the issues at hand. See also: making fun of other in-state schools to cover our own flaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCAJUN90
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Didn't football start?
Save this garbage for the offseason
Lafitte Gator has not been used on much else other than a chain pendant and “AIR PIERRE” is really a privateer. Make no mistake the gator connection is loose at best. They are Privateers and proud of it. <a href="http://www.studentaffairs.uno.edu/welcomeweek/new/" target="_blank">LINK</a>Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunCanaille
I think the name Fideaux arises from Alligators being referred to as Louisiana Guard Dogs.
One name I like was thought up by Dean Zappi. He says a Red BullGator should be named<b> Zydeco
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Agree wholeheartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
The obvious answer is the one few want to entertain.
Put UL on the helmets and make it our primary logo.
If it's good enough for the baseball caps, it's good enough for the helmets.
The flaming vegetable needs to rot away.
The flames need to die out.
The tri-fleur should replace the lone fleur and be the scondary logo.
Finally, and most importantly, Vermilion Red and Evangeline White ARE OUR SCHOOL COLORS!
End of rant.
What needs to be "discussed" that hasn't? Do you mean that there isn't enough threads beeyotching about Bustle and UL football? Stay tuned. RC90 does them good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damon
Did football start? Obviously Bustle and the rest of our team didn't realize it last week. You can only _____ and moan about a game for so long in so many different post. I said what I needed to say in those post and now I want to comment on this post. If you guys have a problem with this post then don't read it. It was pretty obvious what it was about before you decided to read it......Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirogue
See my comments in the mascot poll. Louisiana is The Pelican State.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunCanaille
There are four things about Tulane's mascot that are salient to this discussion.
1) Tulane uses the white pelican, a fresh water bird located primarily in Europe & Africa. The brown pelican is a completely different species, a saltwater New World bird.
The two species are as different as the tiger and the lion.
2) Tulane has changed mascots and logos constantly, generating new ones every few years. They have had several versions of a wave, and just prior to the pelican, they used Poseidon ("Ruler of the Waves"... I had to figure out who it was, and why it was at a Tulane game, all by myself... they change 'em, and then they don't market 'em).
The pelican is the most recent effort, and has not really caught on (outside of a Tulane football game, how many times have any of us seen it?) I predict that Tulane will eventually abandon it, and return to the wave.
3) Even though I am a Tulane alum, I have to be honest: it is not at all clear that Tulane will remain 1A.
4) I can't state reason #4 publicly. But it's potent.
Absolutely. Mascots are totally unimportant.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCAJUN90
Changing from Bulldogs to Ragin' Cajuns was a complete waste of time & money.
I agree with you. The only current UL logo I like, or will wear is the interlocking UL. I have about 10 different shirts with the UL embroidered on it, and I go through great lengths to avoid the other logos.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
So I didn't go into it... but check out this photo. It was another lapse here.
They were using this for years before we were. Any suggestions?
My point exactly. The White Pelican hasn't caught on because it is not inherently interesting or inspiring. Aside from the inspiring imported Brown Pelicans from Florida story, same goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
Make no mistake their current thriving state in Louisiana is very exciting but it is just for looks. They are as native to Louisiana as the bee hive recently found in Ville Platte.
jmo
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Originally Posted by CajunFun
Yes it is paramount to good football teams. The 1950's looking Lion of Penn State and the goofy Cornhusker dude to mention just two of hundreds of bad mascots have negatively impacted their football teams. Ragin Cajuns is a great nickname not mascot but that will only get us so far.
It's a non-issue as far as I'm concerened.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunFun
First, there are several schools that use the same lettering. Several have just an "M" on their helmets as their primary logo, etc. etc.
Are we really going to discourage use of our UL logo because of what another school's band uses?
If trademarking is an issue, just alter the font a little.
Secondly, one good thing that has happenned since the name change is that the general public has gotten into the habit of referring to us as UL. Very few of Louisville's own fans refer to them as UL. We are winning this battle.
To give up on the UL logo right now would be a disaster. So, if we are going to use it, we may as well use it like we mean it.
We are UL. Let's tell the world. Put it on the helmet.
On a side note, the bullgator would be a huge mistake. It would most definitely be seen as a copycat of Florida by the public. Also, it's not like you can have an actual gator roaming the sidelines, and it does nothing to identify ourselves as UL.
The brown pelican(state bird) is a great idea. I just prefer the Catahoula(state dog) because I think it would be a huge hit with the public. Everybody loves dogs, especially kids. Catahoula also has a slight "cajun" connotation as well.
Both are winners because both further enhance our position as THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISIANA.
The bullgator would do no such thing and would only cause confusion with our extremely beloved, all powerful, bliss-inducing nickname, Ragin Cajuns:rolleyes:.
Are they the Cajus? Are they the gators? Who are they?
I can't say I am well traveled out of the state, but in trips to Seattle (my sisters wedding) Nebraska every summer of my youth. And New York several times (where my perents met) the subject of Louisiana Alligators invariably was brought up by our hosts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
Not once (that I recall) did the topic turn to Pelican or the Catahoula or the Black Bear . . .
I like the "Red Bull Gator" but really is there such a thing? Although it doesn't matter. MT goes with that winged unicorn looking thing. I think the Red Gator might work for us but then again we have to start winning.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
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Originally Posted by RCAJUN90
Check out another thread on the Bullgator. It has great possibilities.
1. The character looks great and put Chicken Man in a Bullgator costume and you have something really entertaining and appealing to fans that finally has a connection to the university.
2. We have a natural swamp on campus with a Bullgator.
3. Our stadium is called The Swamp.
4. Our soccer complex is called Gator Cove.
5. The Bullgator mascot has marketing and apparel appeal.
6. We can do the gator chomp at games which gets the fans more into the game.
7. Only Florida has a Gator mascot. So what if there are similarities. Did we change The Swamp just because Florida's stadium is also called The Swamp? Clemson, Missouri, Memphis and LSU are all the Tigers and all play Hold That Tiger as their theme song and nobody worries about anybody copying each other. LSU's Tiger Stadium is also called Death Valley. Clemson calls their stadium Death Valley. Again, no problem there. Hey, we would be in great company with Louisiana and Florida. Besides, they are the Florida Gators and Gators is both their mascot and moniker. UL's moniker is the Ragin Cajuns and our mascot is the Bullgator. There is a difference.
8. The Peppers only place is the accent on Ragin. It is not used anywhere else in marketing.
9. We need a name for the Bullgator. Fideaux is one name. Zydeco was also suggested, sort of like Gumbo for the Saints. Louie was also suggested as was Louie and Ana, if we got two Bullgators to reflect the Louisiana name.
10. We can build a swamp habitat around the stadium to duplicate the swamp on campus and have our Bullgator mascot there for our fans at The Swamp.
Just a few items to think about. The Brown Pelican and CatahoULa are also possibilities. However, the Bullgator brings the greatest benefit for reasons stated above, IMO.