Re: THANK YOU SCOTT PRATHER
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Originally Posted by RonMexico
For letting the world know exactly what Scelfo pulled on UL and Tech...
You definitely laid it out today on your radio show today. There are NO ifs, ands, or buts as to what transpired.
The man is definitely marked as one of questionable character.
Maybe UL should send him the bill for the gas he burned running back and forth from Lafayette to Ruston.??
We are definitely better off without him.
L'Ronte'
More info or a transcription? Maybe an article for un non-local folks?
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I certainly hope that the damn fool does not put the fuel bill for the trip to Ruston on the expense report. How do you spell "lawsoot".
As a salesman, this is just one more issue to use for this program and against La Tech in the recruiting wars.
Re: THANK YOU SCOTT PRATHER
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Originally Posted by Damon
More info or a transcription? Maybe an article for un non-local folks?
As per Scott Prather
1) Scelfo starts work at UL without contract until his Tulane Contract expires.
2) Scelfo has office at complex and the use of a Univerisity car.
3) Scelfo uses University car to travel to Tech.
5) Scelfo meets with Dooley and says he will take the Tech OC position for 25K more than UL salary
6) Dooley said he will have to get it OK'd, Scelfo say he will talk to Tech Pres himself. Tech Pres says OK
7) Scelfo comes back to UL and tells Bustle he is going to Tech.
8) Scelfo USES UL CAR AGAIN to return to Tech. Tells tech that UL matched the Tech offer (not true)
9) Scelfo shakes down Tech for 25K more.
I'm glad he's gone.
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Wow...what a jerk. Thanks for that recap. I'm much less upset after that.
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Originally Posted by BrockMeaux
Wow...what a jerk. Thanks for that recap. I'm much less upset after that.
Re: THANK YOU SCOTT PRATHER
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Originally Posted by HelmutVII
As per Scott Prather
1) Scelfo starts work at UL without contract until his Tulane Contract expires.
2) Scelfo has office at complex and the use of a Univerisity car.
3) Scelfo uses University car to travel to Tech.
5) Scelfo meets with Dooley and says he will take the Tech OC position for 25K more than UL salary
6) Dooley said he will have to get it OK'd, Scelfo say he will talk to Tech Pres himself. Tech Pres says OK
7) Scelfo comes back to UL and tells Bustle he is going to Tech.
8) Scelfo USES UL CAR AGAIN to return to Tech. Tells tech that UL matched the Tech offer (not true)
9) Scelfo shakes down Tech for 25K more.
I'm glad he's gone.
If this is true... I hope he has fun at South Arkansas Tech Community College.
Re: THANK YOU SCOTT PRATHER
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Originally Posted by RonMexico
For letting the world know exactly what Scelfo pulled on UL and Tech...
You definitely laid it out today on your radio show today. There are NO ifs, ands, or buts as to what transpired.
The man is definitely marked as one of questionable character.
Maybe UL should send him the bill for the gas he burned running back and forth from Lafayette to Ruston.??
We are definitely better off without him.
L'Ronte'
Hey buddy, wanna buy a bridge?
..O..
Re: THANK YOU SCOTT PRATHER
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Originally Posted by DestinCajun
Hey buddy, wanna buy a bridge?
..O..
Has anyone thought to ask the question:
Why is it that LaTech can pay an offensive coordinator 150K and we can only pay one 95K?
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Originally Posted by Membertou
Has anyone thought to ask the question:
Why is it that LaTech can pay an offensive coordinator 150K and we can only pay one 95K?
Certainly goes to the heart of the matter, but thats not necessarily what this thread is about, is it?
Attn. TECHSTERS, if he did it to us he'll do it you you too. Good luck.
L'Ronte'
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Originally Posted by RonMexico
Certainly goes to the heart of the matter, but thats not necessarily what this thread is about, is it?
I only posted it in this thread because it is the most recent about "l'Affaire Scelfo". I guess I should have started a new thread on the subject.
Three years from now, if LaTech's offense has been bad, they'll fire Scelfo. (maybe before). Now let's say our offense has been great during the same period. What do you think our great offensive coordinator will say when Tech offers him 50K more than we're paying him???
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Originally Posted by Membertou
I only posted it in this thread because it is the most recent about "l'Affaire Scelfo". I guess I should have started a new thread on the subject.
Three years from now, if LaTech's offense has been bad, they'll fire Scelfo. (maybe before). Now let's say our offense has been great during the same period. What do you think our great offensive coordinator will say when Tech offers him 50K more than we're paying him???
Apples Oranges brother.
Taking more money is one thing... f-ing people over is different...
This Scelfo clown sounds like a real piece of work.
I hope your scenerio in Ruston come true, thanks to that arse-clown.
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Originally Posted by Membertou
I only posted it in this thread because it is the most recent about "l'Affaire Scelfo". I guess I should have started a new thread on the subject.
Three years from now, if LaTech's offense has been bad, they'll fire Scelfo. (maybe before). Now let's say our offense has been great during the same period. What do you think our great offensive coordinator will say when Tech offers him 50K more than we're paying him???
I hope you are not attempting to justify his actions? If half of what is reported is true, he acted dishonorably... not financially clever.
How about we project another future scenario...
Scelfo:
"Hey son, are you still going to honor your commitment to this school?"
Youny Man:
"I think I shall take the path you did sir... I will play you like a fiddle and back out once I use you for what you are worth? Pretty clever huh coach?"
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Originally Posted by Just1More
I hope you are not attempting to justify his actions? If half of what is reported is true, he acted dishonorably... not financially clever.
How about we project another future scenario...
Scelfo:
"Hey son, are you still going to honor your commitment to this school?"
Youny Man:
"I think I shall take the path you did sir... I will play you like a fiddle and back out once I use you for what you are worth? Pretty clever huh coach?"
I make one point and one point only.
Why is it that Louisiana Tech can pay an offensive coordinator 150K and we can only pay one 95K?
Its no doubt true that we're better off without Scelfo, but over the long term, we're falling farther and farther behind in the collegiate athletics nuclear arms race. We're even falling behind schools we should at least be able to keep up with. If that isn't changed and changed quickly, Scelfo being a weasel is the least of our worries.
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Originally Posted by Pirogue
Apples Oranges brother.
Taking more money is one thing... f-ing people over is different...
This Scelfo clown sounds like a real piece of work.
I hope your scenerio in Ruston come true, thanks to that arse-clown.
Hypothetically, what do you think our next offensive coordinator will say down the road if he is offered 50K more to dump us and go to work for LaTech?
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Originally Posted by Membertou
Hypothetically, what do you think our next offensive coordinator will say down the road if he is offered 50K more to dump us and go to work for LaTech?
Can I play this game too? Or, was this intended as a private email?
I think he will say "Well, after our 11-1 season, the bowl victory and the top 15 ranking, that kind of money isn't very motivating. UL just got a huge influx of funding from their incredibly re-energized fan-base, and the huge salary increase, coupled with the long-term contract, just makes it very difficult to come up there to Ruston and take over the mess that Dooley and Scelfo left you guys with. I appreciate the interest, but I really like it here, and Bustle and I would like to see how far we can go with this."
My crystal ball may be slightly tainted with optimism. But hypothetically speaking, if someone comes calling on our OC with more money, something has gone right... wouldn't you say?
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Originally Posted by Just1More
Can I play this game too? Or, was this intended as a private email?
I think he will say "Well, after our 11-1 season, the bowl victory and the top 15 ranking, that kind of money isn't very motivating. UL just got a huge influx of funding from their incredibly re-energized fan-base, and the huge salary increase, coupled with the long-term contract, just makes it very difficult to come up there to Ruston and take over the mess that Dooley and Scelfo left you guys with. I appreciate the interest, but I really like it here, and Bustle and I would like to see how far we can go with this."
My crystal ball may be slightly tainted with optimism. But hypothetically speaking, if someone comes calling on our OC with more money, something has gone right... wouldn't you say?
You're right, things would be going better. However, if you think you can consistently fend off higher offers from other schools to keep coaches, you're living in a dream world. The vast majority of coaches will leave when you wave an additional 50K. That says nothing of what you can get for 95K for an offensive coordinator at a Div 1 school in this day and age. You're not going to be recruiting from the most sought after and highly thought of field of candidates. That's not to say you might not get lucky and find a diamond in the rough this time. But, you won't be able to do that consistently. Those with the cash will ultimately rule.
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Originally Posted by Membertou
Hypothetically, what do you think our next offensive coordinator will say down the road if he is offered 50K more to dump us and go to work for LaTech?
I don't think it is an ethical problem for someone to move on for a significant pay increase (or any other reason for that matter). It is just the manner in which Scelfo allegedly did it that is a big issue. Now, on the other hand, it is an athletic problem for UL if we continually have schools at or near our level waving much bigger salaries at coaches we have or want. It is different than if that is coming from a BC$ school. We can't compete in a bidding war with those schools.
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Originally Posted by RaginFan2
I don't think it is an ethical problem for someone to move on for a significant pay increase (or any other reason for that matter). It is just the manner in which Scelfo allegedly did it that is a big issue. Now, on the other hand, it is an athletic problem for UL if we continually have schools at or near our level waving much bigger salaries at coaches we have or want. It is different than if that is coming from a BC$ school. We can't compete in a bidding war with those schools.
Correct.
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Originally Posted by RaginFan2
I don't think it is an ethical problem for someone to move on for a significant pay increase (or any other reason for that matter). It is just the manner in which Scelfo allegedly did it that is a big issue. Now, on the other hand, it is an athletic problem for UL if we continually have schools at or near our level waving much bigger salaries at coaches we have or want. It is different than if that is coming from a BC$ school. We can't compete in a bidding war with those schools.
The point I was trying to make is that Scelfo is the small or insignificant issue. The BIG issue is the overall money situation.
This is the BIG issue:
Why is LaTech, a school we should be competitive with in all things, able to offer 50K more for an offensive coordinator? What can we do about that?
That is the important issue.
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Originally Posted by Membertou
The point I was trying to make is that Scelfo is the small or insignificant issue. The BIG issue is the overall money situation.
This is the BIG issue:
Why is LaTech, a school we should be competitive with in all things, able to offer 50K more for an offensive coordinator? What can we do about that?
That is the important issue.
They have a sugar daddy who basically funds their non state covered athletic department expenses. We need one too. One that can get along with Dr. Authement. Do you have anyone in mind?
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Originally Posted by Cajunsmike
They have a sugar daddy who basically funds their non state covered athletic department expenses. We need one too. One that can get along with Dr. Authement. Do you have anyone in mind?
That's only half true. It's not really one sugar daddy, it's more like a group of 5. However, during this coaching search, so benefactors that had given strictly to the academic side of things assured us that we would have whatever we needed.
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Originally Posted by Membertou
I make one point and one point only.
Why is it that Louisiana Tech can pay an offensive coordinator 150K and we can only pay one 95K?
Its no doubt true that we're better off without Scelfo, but over the long term, we're falling farther and farther behind in the collegiate athletics nuclear arms race. We're even falling behind schools we should at least be able to keep up with. If that isn't changed and changed quickly, Scelfo being a weasel is the least of our worries.
tech just got a large some of money for boise state winning a bcs game
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Originally Posted by crazycajun
tech just got a large some of money for boise state winning a bcs game
1 body bag games worth. They can play 2 next year instead of 3.
L'Ronte'
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
That's only half true. It's not really one sugar daddy, it's more like a group of 5. However, during this coaching search, so benefactors that had given strictly to the academic side of things assured us that we would have whatever we needed.
Strange. No comments on your board about the way your new OC played both UL and Tech??
I guess you guys figure this character flaw will just magically disappear?
Surely in one of your super secret members only folders there are some sphincters puckering over this hire, huh?