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Up one spot from last week. Not bad to be in the top 10....Beat McNeese.Quote:
Originally Posted by ulforlife
What's really going to make an impact on the ranking is the upcoming tournament. It's gonna be a tough one, but I think our girls can pull it out
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Originally Posted by RaginDave
This will be a tough game. McNeese already beat Arizona State when ASU was #1. If our pitching steps up tonight, it will be a good win to go to 23-0 and set a new UL record with nice preparation for the Judy Garmin Classic.
Since we are called Louisiana Lafayette on the NFCA rankings, I wrote to them asking to please call us Louisiana with clear notice that I had no ties to the university, just asking as an alumnus. Here is what I wrote to them today and their very quick response. Just thought you might be interested in that their use of our name is dictated by the NCAA. Looks like the university will have to appeal to the NCAA for a change in the name reference we seek.Quote:
Originally Posted by ulforlife
I am writing as an alumnus of the university with no ties to the athletic department. I am requesting your reference to Louisiana Lafayette as LOUISIANA. Officially, our name is the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, which is not unlike Texas at Austin, Nebraska Lincoln, Nevada Reno, etc. Athletically, we simply want to be called LOUISIANA and UL (not ULL). I think you will see that in all releases from our SID and on our website. When schools like Cal State Fresno ask to be called Fresno State, everyone obliges. When Nevada Reno says call us Nevada and call Nevada Las Vegas UNLV, everyone obliges. But when Louisiana Lafayette asks to be called LOUISIANA, our requests are ignored. With all that UL has achieved in softball over the years and its current Top 10 ranking, I respectfully request your consideration in referring to the university as LOUISIANA.
Thank you for your email. However, we abide by what the NCAA chooses to call the schools and at this time for your school it is Louisiana-Lafayette. I understand your position and I am sorry you disagree with ours. Also it is my understanding that the University of Louisiana has no flagship institution like a Texas at Austin or a Tennessee at Knoxville, so it seems to me that not having a flagship would prohibit any school from being known as Louisiana. I know you will not agree with our position, but unfortunately our policy will not change until an organization like the NCAA changes its policy.
Sincerely,
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Parker Griffith
Director of Media Relations
Division II Liaison
National Fastpitch Coaches Association
(662) 320-2155
www.nfca.org
The "Name Police" has struck again.
Why are you negotiating with the "Division II" liason? ;)
What is her email?
ps Tell her names like, "University of" predate the term flagship and the two are unrelated.
I do like how she said we "put up with" (abide) the NCAA, but to then turn around and call it an NCAA policy is silly.
I mean no disrespect to you or your post, but can't we just leave this alone already?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
I've personally always been one to wish we were just Louisiana, but after all this time... I can't say I hate the Louisiana-"Lafayette" references. I mean I'm proud of our city of Lafayette and I have no problem being associated with it.
If anything, it helps people become more away of our city.
Let's just be Cajun fans and not nag these organizations about what they call us.
What we should ask is that at least put us as Louisiana-L----the Lafayette gets us confused with Lafayette and on numerous occasions even put a mistaken logo------Is Nevada (use to be Reno) a flagship?????
I dodn't consider it a nag, just an inquiry as to why they won't call us Louisiana. I sent this to their website email contact which was no particular person and this is who responded. This is the first time I hear that the NCAA governs the name used.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragincajun10
We are getting more and more national exposure now and are getting entrenched as Louisiana Lafayette. Obviously, some of you are not bothered by that while others like myself refuse to buy any gear or accept the Louisiana Lafayette reference. I am always curious in finding out why our athletic department requests to call us Louisiana are ignored. Here is one response that I thought some people would find interest in.
HoustonCajun,
Thank you for your dedication to the name change. Thank you for being consistent in your efforts to back it up.
For what it's worth, I think we can use more people with the same dedication to the name change as HoustonCajun. I think we can use more people backing him on this board instead of complaining about him. It would help if those people backing him were in higher places. If we don't fight for Louisiana we'll never be truly recognized as Louisiana. A name which is rightfully ours. They say the squeaky wheel gets the grease...well squeak squeak.
i agree that it is worthwhile to try to persuade these hypocrites, errr, organizations to respect our wishes and drop the tongue-twisting second "L" they insist on adding to our name. flagship status be damned! we are LOUISIANA!!
I'm with HoustonCajun on this one. Thanks.
Wow. UT is the flagship of Texas? I don't think TAMU is aware of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
Do we have a list of the flawed arguments somewhere? Here's a few:
1. It is illegal.
Ummm no it is not.
2. You have to be a flagship.
Ambiguous distinction in most states, and we are only talking about sports marketing here. UCLA and Cal coexist. I doubt UNLV refers to Nevada as the flagship.
3. It's confusing to an unfamiliar public.
No, U'L'L is confusing. Hyphens and wierd abbreviations are confusing. Lafayette, the name of another university is confusing. Inconsistency is confusing. We are telling you precisely what to do to eliminate confusion.
I also agree with HoustonCajun. It's an uphill battle, but it's worth fighting for. University of Louisiana.
Sounds like your next step should be to ask your new buddy Parker Griffith to give you a contact at the NCAA where you can express your concern. Then send them a similar note.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
Keep fighting the good fight, HoustonCajun! If we don't fight for it, who will? Sounds like PG has connections with "the flagship" ...
Well...then based on what that guy's answer was to HoustonCajun, it's going to get VERY confusing when the Techies move over to the LSUA&M system...and become that system's new "flagship"!! :-)
I think that move is going nowhere fast. But, between the LaNecks and the UKnows I suppose one could be flagship North and one South.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRed
I have no trouble with H Cajuns fight. If they bother some of y'all don't read them.
I will say; howerve, if one complains then one needs a plan of action, he took action.
It's one thing for HoustonCajun to remind us all of the time about the name change and it's issues... but having done this in a professional manner to an outside organization... and letting us know about it... is a good thing. I feel like Parker Griffith was more than taking the easy way out. I find it odd that he/she went on to explain his/her personal flagship naming interpretation. Albeit, HC gave his... but, he actually gave examples of programs using and gaining easily accepted nicknames. We have a unique nickname request and we have our reasons. It has nothing to do with an implication or assertion of "flagship status" and never did.
I am pretty sure that Texas is Texas because of history, not flagship status. At one time there was only one University of Texas, and I wonder when the Austin was added? Maybe from day one, as well as Georgia and others with long histories of being called by their state name only.