Poll - What percentage of Football support is acceptable for Basketball

From a pure attendance standpoint, what percentage of Football attendance/support is acceptable for the Ragin' Cajuns Basketball program?

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Originally Posted by Turbine

From a pure attendance standpoint, what percentage of Football attendance/support is acceptable for the Ragin' Cajuns Basketball program?

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No doubt one needs to know the actual number of seats available. Let us claim 10,500 a nice round number because the numbers have changed since they changed the arena for ice hockey.

I feel that Lafayette is capable of bringing 6500 per game minimum, but can easily believe 9K plus on several games per season.

Should be 33.3% at the minimum. Just my thoughts. That would be around 10k which would be a packed house! Man that would be some fun!

It should be a very low number. I do both... both have their own following... same as baseball. Football is an event.. once a week... on a saturday... cooking... drinking... good times.

Basketball on the other hand is not. Lafayette does not have many true basketball fans anymore.

A-tor---Think you are on to Something---We need to bring the cooking, drinking, music, and good times to the Dome---Maybe spend a lil money but just sell some treats and beer!!!!!! T-gaiting outside or inside!!!

It should equal the composite free throw percentage of the basketball team or perhaps whatever percentage of fans that want to go to basketball games... whichever happens first.

I'm in the 30%-40% range if we're talking attendance. 30% of 29171 (average home FB attendance this past year) is 8751 and 40% is 11668. So you're looking in the range of about 8751 to 11668. The higher number is approaching the capacity of the dome so that would be amazing but the lower number is basically equal to the lower sections completely full with still a good bit in the third levels. Not too shabby, and it shouldn't be too much to ask for.

I think it is really independent of football. Three games I remember from the 90's let me know what we are capable of:
The Loyola-Marymount game in '91/92, the UMass game in '96 and the Sun-Belt Championship game in '98 against South Al.

I don't know the exact numbers, but they were about 9k to 10K, LOUD, and FUN. We may have been drawing more than football. But after one-half of a good season, we got to 8k last year. Hopefully if we string together a few really good seasons we should set our goal on 9k to 10k consistently. Does anyone have an old media guide with attendance records? I'd like to see what our best games were.

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Originally Posted by jumboragncajun

I think it is really independent of football. Three games I remember from the 90's let me know what we are capable of:
The Loyola-Marymount game in '91/92, the UMass game in '96 and the Sun-Belt Championship game in '98 against South Al.

I don't know the exact numbers, but they were about 9k to 10K, LOUD, and FUN. We may have been drawing more than football. But after one-half of a good season, we got to 8k last year. Hopefully if we string together a few really good seasons we should set our goal on 9k to 10k consistently. Does anyone have an old media guide with attendance records? I'd like to see what our best games were.

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I remember being on the court as a ball boy for both the UMass and LMU game. Yes they were very loud.

I think LM had around 11,400 and UMass like 10,500 or so. The first game ever in the dome against UGa was somewhere around 11,000 also

You can call me crazy, but I believe we should be looking at sell outs in football, men's basketball, baseball and softball every game, nothing less. That is the fan base our players and University deserves and we need to get to that point.

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Originally Posted by Trigger74

You can call me crazy, but I believe we should be looking at sell outs in football, men's basketball, baseball and softball every game, nothing less. That is the fan base our players and University deserves and we need to get to that point.

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I think we should double that. I win.

I shouldn't have included 80%

It means you expect over 20,000 in attendance at the basketball game.

There is another way of looking at this though. . . .

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Originally Posted by Trigger74

You can call me crazy, but I believe we should be looking at sell outs in football, men's basketball, baseball and softball every game, nothing less. That is the fan base our players and University deserves and we need to get to that point.

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Does ANY school, in ANY conference, do that?

The word acceptable means one thing to you and another to me. It means what is realistic for this time period to me. With a good start and getting a star player there is no reason not to get back to the Lamar era. Lafayette was more isolated then had few if any sports on Saturday television, and the population was half the size of today. One positive change and two negatives against history should equal out.l

We should average around 7500 per game, no questions asked.

It depends on what kind of product you are offering as to how much attendance one should expect to see in the stands.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

It depends on what kind of product you are offering as to how much attendance one should expect to see in the stands.

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With over 600K within thirty five minutes of the cajundome we should be able to average 7500 with the current product.

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Originally Posted by Bandwagon King

It depends on what kind of product you are offering as to how much attendance one should expect to see in the stands.

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Hence the reason your handle is Bandwagon King. You don't believe teams deserve support unless they're good enough for your liking. Probably the reason you only made 2 basketball games this season.

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

Hence the reason your handle is Bandwagon King. You don't believe teams deserve support unless they're good enough for your liking. Probably the reason you only made 2 basketball games this season.

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As I have been enlightened this year... True fans do not have to attend games. They can be there in spirit and that is totally acceptable.

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Originally Posted by anhil8tor

As I have been enlightened this year... True fans do not have to attend games. They can be there in spirit and that is totally acceptable.

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You may be right. But his lack of commentary on the team until about 2 weeks ago says that he wasn't there in spirit either.

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

You may be right. But his lack of commentary on the team until about 2 weeks ago says that he wasn't there in spirit either.

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Oh I am not justify bandwagon... just sayin our general masses don't goto basketball physically but in spirit. I just got season tickets last year and was amazed at our lack of attendance early. There were games where it was easy to say.. you know i don't want to haul my young children to the dome... or man I have to miss a football game... or man... i don't feel like making the drive... thats the thing about excuses... they are easy to justify to yourself. Especially parents.... my kids too young.. .too active.. yadda yadda yadda.

Ultimately no matter what some of you think it should be, it is about fun for most people. When your team runs a boring ineffetive offense a non press defense, and in addition is not winning then do not be surprised if they are not having fun, and no fun no butts, no dollars.

For some like me it is about loyalty which is why I went to the games I did this season, it was usually a tedious night, but I still made the 260 mile round trips.

About attendance and just for fun . . .

On an opportunity/urgency scale . . . it takes about 3 home basketball games (2.8) to equal 1 football game.

With 5 home games in football and 14 in basketball, it is easier to mentally put off attending a basketball game than it is to miss a football game.

It is easier to justify staying home for 7% of the season than it is to miss out on 20% of the season.

Football averaged 29,171 for about 145,855 on the season. Spread that out over 14 games and you get 10,418 per game.

Basketball averaged 3,675 per game, now if you take 2.8 games worth of attendance to get down to a 5 game season you have 10,290 a game. Probably 80% are the same fans but it could be said those 8% are more diehard basketball fans than any football fan, because I doubt 29,171 would be maintained if football had 14 home games, with games all over the calendar.

Now that is just one, there are a ton of ways to parse those numbers and yes in some ways they are apples and oranges but looking at the 2.8 games attendance total I can make the claim where right now basketball is garnering 38% of the interest that football is generating.

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Originally Posted by anhil8tor

Oh I am not justify bandwagon... just sayin our general masses don't goto basketball physically but in spirit. I just got season tickets last year and was amazed at our lack of attendance early. There were games where it was easy to say.. you know i don't want to haul my young children to the dome... or man I have to miss a football game... or man... i don't feel like making the drive... thats the thing about excuses... they are easy to justify to yourself. Especially parents.... my kids too young.. .too active.. yadda yadda yadda.

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I guaranteed you that if the team had an incredible record this year(or any other year), all those people who have "too much going on" or "don't wanna make the drive" would have found time and a way to make it to each game. For those fans, if it's only worth it to them to "squeeze" in the game when the team is on top, they fit in the same category as Kyle.

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

For some like me it is about loyalty which is why I went to the games I did this season, it was usually a tedious night, but I still made the 260 mile round trips.

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That's impressive.