Re: Ugh, I mean just...UGH!!!
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
Myth!
Softball rose to national prominence as an independent (the only independent at the school for much of that time) it has maintained it's status in spite of being in a conference.
Baseball is dependent on it's out of conference schedule to maintain respectability.
The Sun Belt is like being on permanant welfare and unable to recognize how much better off you would be if you went out and got a job.
jmo
Wrong, the softball world is different now. Without a strong conference we would be nothing. Yes lets join the Southland in other sports, not they would take us. How many softball teams make it in to the NCAA tournament, yes that would be 1.
I noticed you ignored the fact that Notre Dame has a scheduling agreement with the ACC because it does not fit your narrative. Why would the most successful independent in the history of college football, with almost unlimited resources, need to have an agreement with the ACC to schedule football games?
You keep up the good fight and you will be sitting in the stadium by yourself if it ever happened. I do not want to see southland conference softball, maybe baseball.
Just curious, how many season tickets do you have for softball and baseball?
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Originally Posted by
CajunRebel
Robe prays to Jerry Falwell?
It’s not that Liberty is a Christian University. There are tons of respected Christian universities out there. It’s the fact that this particular Christian University teaches fundamentalist wackadoodle things.
Are you saying that these other "respected Christian universities" do not have... in your opinion... any "wackadoodle things" in their belief structure? I'm not a fan of the Falwell's... but we are talking about football. I could divulge even more disgusting human characteristics embedded in some of the P5 schools... relating directly to football... that we agree to play (for money mainly). But we seem to overlook those differences. If we found out that a particular university president was an outspoken atheist... would we not play that school in football, baseball, basketball?
I can see the contempt for adding another FCS come lately to FBS in our already lackluster lineup. But I do not agree that just because Liberty has some odd views in their practice of Christianity... we take exception to challenging them in athletics.
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Originally Posted by
Hark Mudspeth
Will you play all 12 on the road? You gonna have to use that money to buy home games. Your money will dry up by going 2-10. Latech, tulane, USM, Rice,Houston, SMU will all laugh at us when we ask for Home and Home without an obsurd amount of money. Why did liberty try to gain entrance to every conference possible? And only went independent as last resort? And they have money. Why doesn’t Idaho go independent? Why doesn’t every team in the bottom half of their conference go Independent? NMSU is going Independent hoping for a lifeline before they will be forced to FCS. Liberty is hedging their bets that they have enough money to last long enough to impress and they will accept a conference invitation the day it is extended.
You think to lowly of your school.
6 on the road.
Alternating between 2, 3, and 4 appearance fees per year, average 3.
Hone and home for the rest will be easy, they all still have to fill out a schedule almost 100 non P5 schools to choose from.
If you win they want to play you for respect and potentially an upset. If you lose they want to play you to pad their schedule.
Everyone is living in fear of pre-internet 1997.
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
Everyone is living in fear of pre-internet 1997.
No everyone is living in the real world. Again why does Notre Dame have an agreement with the ACC if scheduling is so easy?
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Originally Posted by
MelRock
No everyone is living in the real world. Again why does Notre Dame have an agreement with the ACC if scheduling is so easy?
Probably because they hadn't heard about this new internet thing, you know how the Catholic Church can be. ;)
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
You think to lowly of your school.
6 on the road.
Alternating between 2, 3, and 4 appearance fees per year, average 3.
Hone and home for the rest will be easy, they all still have to fill out a schedule almost 100 non P5 schools to choose from.
If you win they want to play you for respect and potentially an upset. If you lose they want to play you to pad their schedule.
Everyone is living in fear of pre-internet 1997.
Want a case study in independent football at the G5 level? Look at UMass. 0-6 already on the year. No chance at a conference championship and no chance at a bowl game. You think that would work here? RCAF money would dry up fast.
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CajunRebel
I feel sorry for people who think dinosaurs existed 2,000 years ago.
Why do people want to bring their identity politics into sports? Oh, because the left finds it fashionable to discriminate on college campuses regardless of federal dollars.
Look, I don't believe that dinosaurs existed 2,000 years ago anymore than I believe a male can transition and become female. Neither can be proven scientifically. Both are irrelevant when deciding which programs make your conference more financially stable. It's about money, not about belief systems or ideology for that matter. It is about financial stability!
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Originally Posted by
MelRock
Wrong, the softball world is different now. Without a strong conference we would be nothing. Yes lets join the Southland in other sports, not they would take us. How many softball teams make it in to the NCAA tournament, yes that would be 1.
I noticed you ignored the fact that Notre Dame has a scheduling agreement with the ACC because it does not fit your narrative. Why would the most successful independent in the history of college football, with almost unlimited resources, need to have an agreement with the ACC to schedule football games?
You keep up the good fight and you will be sitting in the stadium by yourself if it ever happened. I do not want to see southland conference softball, maybe baseball.
Just curious, how many season tickets do you have for softball and baseball?
Southland is a red herring argument.
A few years ago without the #1 out of conference schedule in the country UL softball would have been a 16 seed.
Right now UL sports teams have to do everything in their power "out of conference" (The INDEPENDANT part of their schedule) to overcome the weakness of the Sun Belt.
ps The ACC made ND an offer as a means of future enticement. If being a full fledged Conference member of the conference was the best move, they would already be in. Good teams + automatic scheduling = good move.
Bad teams + automatic scheduling = bad move.
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Originally Posted by
GeauxLouisiana
Want a case study in independent football at the G5 level? Look at UMass. 0-6 already on the year. No chance at a conference championship and no chance at a bowl game. You think that would work here? RCAF money would dry up fast.
Biggest loss by 10.
I will be able to judge them better after the Sun Belt portion of their schedule.
