Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
It's funny that you list all the things that we can't blame farmer for because they are out of his control. Then in the same breath we should give him credit for things...that are out of his control. He controls our on field success about as much as he controls the red tape in Baton Rouge.
Its his job to ensure that we are successful. so he will get credit for both direct and indirect actions. Far less credit for indirect and much more for direct and exactly the same when something goes down the tubes. It cant be had both ways. I would be hard pressed if more that a select handful of people on this board and in the admin know EXACTLY what he is directly responsible for.
we are chugging along pretty damn good right now and he, in part and along with WHOLE athletics department, should get credit for it. OH and by the way the fans, from the biggest bandwagoner to the biggest donor, should also get some credit for our success. Bravo to everyone this past year...its a great time to be a Cajun's fan!
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
I think it's both. AD should ultimately approve.
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
Then next time he is getting blame for something that isn't directly his doing, I want to hear the same. But it hasn't been that way in the past , it's always it's out of his control, what do you expect him to do? What should he have told you? The truth? I'm not directing this donkey at you but his defenders use a different a set of rules for his failures than they do for the success.
I understand...and in the past I have been one to say give him a chance. I still do say that but I also try to see the brighter side of things, luckily things are going well now a days.
The thing is unless we are in the meetings and conversations its hard to say what he supports and what he doesn't. for instance the whole ULM name gate for football. was that T-Joe? Farmer? the Conference? Were concessions made for a deal later on? Did Farmer go home and kick the cat? Did T-Joe do the same? Who knows! Sometimes hands are tied. We have a long way still to climb and we are really gaining ground. The best is yet to come!!
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
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Originally Posted by
angeleast
See what you started Turbine? Were are just 2 days into the dead off season and civil war has begun!!!!!!
Sorry. :)
I gave Farmer an 8
ps I had to reword my original reply it said; "Sorry I gave Farmer an 8"
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
I gave him an 8. Here's what I see.
Facilities 7
He initiated an ambitious Master Plan and has followed through with it so far. By this time next year phase one will be complete. We'll have a new Athletic Performance Center, a Cajun Field seating Expansion, and a new football scoreboard. He doesn't get a 10 because it took a little more time than it should have to get the ball rolling, and I do not agree with expanding our football stadium when there is no demand for it. I believe this expansion shows he has a fundamental misunderstanding of the economics behind stadium capacity and how to build stadiums to maximize revenue.
Fundraising 7
He helped start the RCAF which is a huge accomplishment for our university. The RCAF seems to have grown by at least 20% every year, which is respectable growth. Minor issues with the RCAF and the lack of a replacement for Ken Winstead keeps him from getting a 10.
Conference Realignment Readiness 8
I disagree with a few people here in two areas. One, I won't blame Scott Farmer for decisions that were made by other people. And two, I don't think our terrible facilities, terrible budget, terrible market, and terrible winning tradition in 2012 should fall on the shoulders of a guy who was hired in late 2011. It is his job to make our athletic programs attractive enough that better conferences will want to invite us. 3 years ago, our university wasn't able to do this. Today, I don't think there's any question we're on C-USA's short list now. Our budget, facilities, fan support, and winning have all improved. And there is a plan on paper to improve them further. That's why he gets an 8.
Coaches 9
He is directly responsible for making the greatest hire in Cajun history. He doesn't deserve credit for the wins Hud has amassed, but he deserves all the credit for finding the very best person for the job and keeping him there for three years. He also had the foresight to give Coach Marlin the raise he had been promised at a time when it was very unpopular to do so. Had he broken that promise I doubt Marlin would have stuck around to turn this program around. He doesn't get a 10 because of the brief episode with Coach Lotief. Not keeping a coach like him happy is a mortal sin in my book. But to his credit he was able to work things out.
Winning 10
Since he took over, our 4 main sports have been on fire. I'm not about to say it was all Farmer's doing. Of course it wasn't. However the guy has evidently done what he needed to do to let the high performers working under him perform at a high level. Take that for what it's worth. I'll just say this. Our next AD could be a chicken. As long as we continue to win like we have been these past few years, I'd rather have that chicken as AD than Billy Beane, Dell Demps, and Nick Saban put together. JUST WIN BABY!
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
your score for 3 is way off rebel.
your score for 2 should come down slightly. although funds are up and the renovations have started, we still havent had a capital campaign drive to really have RCAF to take off.
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
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Originally Posted by
CajunRebel
I gave him an 8. Here's what I see.
Facilities 7
He initiated an ambitious Master Plan and has followed through with it so far. By this time next year phase one will be complete. We'll have a new Athletic Performance Center, a Cajun Field seating Expansion, and a new football scoreboard. He doesn't get a 10 because it took a little more time than it should have to get the ball rolling, and I do not agree with expanding our football stadium when there is no demand for it. I believe this expansion shows he has a fundamental misunderstanding of the economics behind stadium capacity and how to build stadiums to maximize revenue.
Fundraising 7
He helped start the RCAF which is a huge accomplishment for our university. The RCAF seems to have grown by at least 20% every year, which is respectable growth. Minor issues with the RCAF and the lack of a replacement for Ken Winstead keeps him from getting a 10.
Conference Realignment Readiness 8
I disagree with a few people here in two areas. One, I won't blame Scott Farmer for decisions that were made by other people. And two, I don't think our terrible facilities, terrible budget, terrible market, and terrible winning tradition in 2012 should fall on the shoulders of a guy who was hired in late 2011. It is his job to make our athletic programs attractive enough that better conferences will want to invite us. 3 years ago, our university wasn't able to do this. Today, I don't think there's any question we're on C-USA's short list now. Our budget, facilities, fan support, and winning have all improved. And there is a plan on paper to improve them further. That's why he gets an 8.
Coaches 9
He is directly responsible for making the greatest hire in Cajun history. He doesn't deserve credit for the wins Hud has amassed, but he deserves all the credit for finding the very best person for the job and keeping him there for three years. He also had the foresight to give Coach Marlin the raise he had been promised at a time when it was very unpopular to do so. Had he broken that promise I doubt Marlin would have stuck around to turn this program around. He doesn't get a 10 because of the brief episode with Coach Lotief. Not keeping a coach like him happy is a mortal sin in my book. But to his credit he was able to work things out.
Winning 10
Since he took over, our 4 main sports have been on fire. I'm not about to say it was all Farmer's doing. Of course it wasn't. However the guy has evidently done what he needed to do to let the high performers working under him perform at a high level. Take that for what it's worth. I'll just say this. Our next AD could be a chicken. As long as we continue to win like we have been these past few years, I'd rather have that chicken as AD than Billy Beane, Dell Demps, and Nick Saban put together. JUST WIN BABY!
I think some of these scores are a bit high, but still a lot closer than the people who think we should be big time with the snap of a finger. The lack of support from the state and even our own university is a bigger issue than anyone thinks. Look across the country, schools are cutting programs. School employees are being laid off. We are constructing building after building on campus and work is progressing on our $115mil master plan. You can watch it live now that someone fixed that damn fiber :) This isn't a sprint. We are picking up speed and will be blowing and going before you know it.
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
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Originally Posted by
dms4720
your score for 3 is way off rebel.
your score for 2 should come down slightly. although funds are up and the renovations have started, we still havent had a capital campaign drive to really have RCAF to take off.
From when he took over in late 2011, I think he has put us in a much better position to move to a better conference. Farmer or no Farmer, we really had no chance to get in in 2012.
And I agree with your concerns about the capital campaigns, but I'm happy to see clear and consistent growth from the RCAF.
Re: Rate the job Scott Farmer is doing as UL AD
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Originally Posted by
CajunRage
I think some of these scores are a bit high, but still a lot closer than the people who think we should be big time with the snap of a finger. The lack of support from the state and even our own university is a bigger issue than anyone thinks. Look across the country, schools are cutting programs. School employees are being laid off. We are constructing building after building on campus and work is progressing on our $115mil master plan. You can watch it live now that someone fixed that damn fiber :) This isn't a sprint. We are picking up speed and will be blowing and going before you know it.
You're definitely right on the lack of support, especially from the state. This state has literally been holding us back as a program since 1901.
