MBB Final: Louisiana 76, Ole Miss 94

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Originally Posted by Hudsheen#Fired

Wait what mike?
Georgia state blew out georgia state?

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Sorry for typo. I was told Georgia State blew out Georgia Tech a few days ago. That would make two SBC wins over ACC teams.

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Originally Posted by zephyr

I hate to be the negative Nellie around here but I think our past history against these types of teams tells a story. I could see this game being very competitive for 35-36 minutes, possibly with us even holding the lead for a while but Ole Miss going on some 12-0 run or something like that to end the game and win in double digits. As a matter of fact, I think our previous game there went like that.

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Ding Ding Ding!

We play tentative and play “matchup” instead of imposing our will and pace on these bigger schools. .....Just barely enough to keep it close. All it takes is a 3 minute lapse and that’s the difference. We had several chances in the first half to go in spurts and build a lead. It’s like he tries to play the Floyd Mayweather strategy. But we do have the talent to shove it down some people’s throats this year.

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Originally Posted by zephyr

I could see this game being very competitive for 35-36 minutes, possibly with us even holding the lead for a while but Ole Miss going on some 12-0 run or something like that to end the game and win in double digits. As a matter of fact, I think our previous game there went like that.

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Good call.

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Originally Posted by Cajunsmike

Sorry for typo. I was told Georgia State blew out Georgia Tech a few days ago. That would make two SBC wins over ACC teams.

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Thanks Mike. I agree, this conference will be really good in basketball this year

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Originally Posted by jumboragncajun

Ding Ding Ding!

We play tentative and play "matchup" instead of imposing our will and pace on these bigger schools. .....Just barely enough to keep it close. All it takes is a 3 minute lapse and that's the difference. We had several chances in the first half to go in spurts and build a lead. It's like he tries to play the Floyd Mayweather strategy. But we do have the talent to shove it down some people's throats this year.

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I thought this was a basketball thread.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

Good call.

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Unfortunately, we see this all too often. Its one of Bob's biggest criticisms. Like Hud, we can't win the bigger games even when we have the talent to do so. It's an all too common occurrence. I've often found we just don't have the composure to withstand the big run by some of these teams and we get left behind when it counts.

Stroman is a true point guard. He set up easy bucket opportunities over and over again.
Russell is obviously the real deal.
We are more athletic.
Bartley looked to play more under control, which is crucial for his game.
I liked our energy on defense and hands in the passing lanes.

Still can't shoot free throws.
Still can't finish around the basket.
Still lack size.
Still have a huge problem with our ability to adjust after halftime.

I expect this team to get better as the season progresses.
No way you don't start Russell from here on out. He is fearless.
We need Davis to play, asap.

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

Stroman is a true point guard. He set up easy bucket opportunities over and over again.
Russell is obviously the real deal.
We are more athletic.
Bartley looked to play more under control, which is crucial for his game.
I liked our energy on defense and hands in the passing lanes.

Still can't shoot free throws.
Still can't finish around the basket.
Still lack size.
Still have a huge problem with our ability to adjust after halftime.

I expect this team to get better as the season progresses.
No way you don't start Russell from here on out. He is fearless.
We need Davis to play, asap.

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The one thing we absolutely need ASAP is a coach who is more interested in making his team better than in padding his record. Every single problem you list is a coaching problem, and every one of them has been a problem for every Marlin team at UL. There is a common theme, and it is the head coach.

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Originally Posted by VObserver

The one thing we absolutely need ASAP is a coach who is more interested in making his team better than in padding his record. Every single problem you list is a coaching problem, and every one of them has been a problem for every Marlin team at UL. There is a common theme, and it is the head coach.

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The finishing problem is one that has been a factor here since the Robert Lee years. I don't know how much that is emphasized in practice but it is one of the most frustrating things about the program. As far as coaching goes, we all know that a record similar to the last three will not result in a change no matter how disappointing that is to fans.

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Originally Posted by Cajunsmike

The finishing problem is one that has been a factor here since the Robert Lee years. I don't know how much that is emphasized in practice but it is one of the most frustrating things about the program. As far as coaching goes, we all know that a record similar to the last three will not result in a change no matter how disappointing that is to fans.

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We fired Lee, a great coach to teach our young players ethics, and hard work. He just couldn’t win. Bob’s simply been mediocre his entire time here. Cannot change those facts. We, UL, seems fine with mediocre in basketball.

Wonder how things may have been different if we keep Glynn Cyprien as head coach if he didn’t have resume issues.

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

We fired Lee, a great coach to teach our young players ethics, and hard work. He just couldn’t win. Bob’s simply been mediocre his entire time here. Cannot change those facts. We, UL, seems fine with mediocre in basketball.

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And with Lee's shortcomings, he's still the only coach in recent memory to win a conference championship outright which is interesting.

I get that we got beat by a large margin, but part of that was because we were fouling in trash time and they were making all of the FTs. We had a chance to come back when we were 6 points down and the Freshman (number 0) hit 2 3 point shots back to back. Unfortunately, he let the crowd get to him and drew the TF. This was a freshman mistake, so I cannot be too hard on the kid. I am sure he learned a great lesson from this.

But my point is, there is a lot to like about this team. This was only 1 game against a SEC team on the road. I expect this team may be pretty good this year. This team has one of the deepest benches I have seen in a while for the Cajuns.

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Originally Posted by Crawfish

I get that we got beat by a large margin, but part of that was because we were fouling in trash time and they were making all of the FTs. We had a chance to come back when we were 6 points down and the Freshman (number 0) hit 2 3 point shots back to back. Unfortunately, he let the crowd get to him and drew the TF. This was a freshman mistake, so I cannot be too hard on the kid. I am sure he learned a great lesson from this.

But my point is, there is a lot to like about this team. This was only 1 game against a SEC team on the road. I expect this team may be pretty good this year. This team has one of the deepest benches I have seen in a while for the Cajuns.

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.....Watching on tv I didn't see what he did...also the OM shooter made a jjesture to the crowd...what did do???

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Originally Posted by zephyr

And with Lee's shortcomings, he's still the only coach in recent memory to win a conference championship outright which is interesting.

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Jesse left the cupboard overflowing

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

Jesse left the cupboard overflowing

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Overflowing, just not eligible.

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Originally Posted by Crawfish

I get that we got beat by a large margin, but part of that was because we were fouling in trash time and they were making all of the FTs. We had a chance to come back when we were 6 points down and the Freshman (number 0) hit 2 3 point shots back to back. Unfortunately, he let the crowd get to him and drew the TF. This was a freshman mistake, so I cannot be too hard on the kid. I am sure he learned a great lesson from this.

But my point is, there is a lot to like about this team. This was only 1 game against a SEC team on the road. I expect this team may be pretty good this year. This team has one of the deepest benches I have seen in a while for the Cajuns.

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Fish, Ole Miss went from down 10 to up by 12 or more in ten minutes. Two 3’s got it back to six, but we gave it back and more before the necessary end of game fouls.

Jessie didn't have to deal with APR.

Robert was not prepared and overreacted to what the NCAA gifted him.

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Originally Posted by Turbine

Jessie didn't have to deal with APR.

Robert was not prepared and overreacted to what the NCAA gifted him.

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Stalcup needs to step up his play by blocking inside shots w/o fouling, pulling down loose balls with his hands on the ball, and hitting his soft lil shot from the elbows!!!

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

Jesse left the cupboard overflowing

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Again, the coach has to come in and coach the players. There is much more to coaching than recruiting wouldn't you say? This is the same general response you get when someone wants to diminish what a coach accomplished. "Oh, he did it with someone else's kids" but that is only a small component of the job done.

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Originally Posted by VObserver

The one thing we absolutely need ASAP is a coach who is more interested in making his team better than in padding his record. Every single problem you list is a coaching problem, and every one of them has been a problem for every Marlin team at UL. There is a common theme, and it is the head coach.

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I wonder if Marlin knows that he can "pad his record" if he makes his team better? Interesting concept.
Cajuns shot 70% FT at Ole Miss but improved to 84% at home.
Sunbelt is guard heavy. Tough to win with a lot of big bodies. Bryce shows you dont need a 7 footer to have a double-double most nights.
Finishing at the rim is a HUGE issue. Not sure of the problem there. Back in the day, we shot layups while getting knocked around with blocking shields.
Agree with the halftime adjustments but a big issue at Ole Miss is that we seemed flat after halftime. No one was moving their feet and trying to play defense with hands and arms doesn't work.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

I wonder if Marlin knows that he can "pad his record" if he makes his team better? ...

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Brilliant!!!

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Originally Posted by zephyr

Again, the coach has to come in and coach the players. There is much more to coaching than recruiting wouldn't you say? This is the same general response you get when someone wants to diminish what a coach accomplished. "Oh, he did it with someone else's kids" but that is only a small component of the job done.

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So he won with good coaching and talent. He became a bad coach with lesser talent. Yeah I think talent is clearly more than a small component.

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

So he won with good coaching and talent. He became a bad coach with lesser talent. Yeah I think talent is clearly more than a small component.

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Actually, I did not call him a "good coach". That would suggest that he did it consistently in his tenure. What I originally stated was that it was sad that he was able to win a conference title outright while Marlin has not sniffed one while being paid much more. He did a great job that season and it was kind of a magical season. I will not diminish what he and his staff did even if it was for a short period of time since it apparently is something our program is incapable of doing. I don't think he brought in lesser talent. i think he had issues with either discipline or retention which is what I think Marlin has as well because Lee did bring in some good players.

I recall Robert signed a class of all state players. Some left, and some were injured. Sadly Robert simply couldn’t keep enough quality talent on the team at one time.