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ManAboutTown
Mike, I've enjoyed our visits. I respect your opinion and I'm happy our basketball program has fans like you.
But let's get a few things correct, for the record's sake:
1) I never called The Rebounders Club a "cult." My comment, to be exact, was about being banned from the FB fan page. I said the "cultish vibe" is weird. And it absolutely is. When I went to that page, people were crowing about "leading the SBC in attendance." WE ALL KNOW, that is horse hockey. We may sell more tickets than anyone, but we most certainly don't lead the conference in actual attendance. And the rebounder club people know that. It's intentional spreading of propaganda. If we want to debate terms like "cultish" and "propaganda", I'm happy to provide definitions for each. (I looked them up before making the comments on the pod and they were perfectly fitting for this situation.)
2) The Rebounders Club is absolutely a Social Club (we can look that one up as well). Some of the people that started the RR bashing even ADMITTED openly that they go to the games to "hang out" and don't really care about the outcomes. They don't "take it too seriously." So by their own admission, it's a club to socialize. Hence the social club references. If that offends anyone, I suggest a thicker skin. There are many other things I could say to reference that group. Social Club is fitting and harmless.
3) They píss and moan about us being too "negative." Really? How come the softball coaches, players and parents don't think we're too negative? How come coaches, players and parents of Tennis, Golf, Women's Soccer, Football, Baseball, or VBall don't think we're too "negative?" We know for a fact that folks from all of those programs listen. We get feedback from LOTS of different areas. Rebounder Club is the only group that has an issue with our "negativity." Pretty odd coincidence. We've treated every program at this school the exact same way: give an honest, educated opinion and call a spade a damn spade. 90% of the fan base (per a recent poll) want a change in basketball. I guess that has nothing to do with Bob Marlin's results and everything to do with Ragin Review's "negativity."
The fact is, even people around the administration and athletic complex know, several Rebounders Club members would rather bounce on Bob's lap than hold the coaching staff to any real expectation. That's a fact, and it's not a very well kept secret. I found it funny when one of the more vocal RC members tried to say "Y'all's podcast isn't taken seriously among RC members and the coaches." I thought to myself "Buddy, you're getting your âss conned and they don't take you seriously. Only difference is, we do it for free."
They idolize someone that would be gone in .5 seconds if anyone would offer him to go somewhere else
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Originally Posted by
ManAboutTown
Mike, I've enjoyed our visits. I respect your opinion and I'm happy our basketball program has fans like you.
But let's get a few things correct, for the record's sake:
1) I never called The Rebounders Club a "cult." My comment, to be exact, was about being banned from the FB fan page. I said the "cultish vibe" is weird. And it absolutely is. When I went to that page, people were crowing about "leading the SBC in attendance." WE ALL KNOW, that is horse hockey. We may sell more tickets than anyone, but we most certainly don't lead the conference in actual attendance. And the rebounder club people know that. It's intentional spreading of propaganda. If we want to debate terms like "cultish" and "propaganda", I'm happy to provide definitions for each. (I looked them up before making the comments on the pod and they were perfectly fitting for this situation.)
2) The Rebounders Club is absolutely a Social Club (we can look that one up as well). Some of the people that started the RR bashing even ADMITTED openly that they go to the games to "hang out" and don't really care about the outcomes. They don't "take it too seriously." So by their own admission, it's a club to socialize. Hence the social club references. If that offends anyone, I suggest a thicker skin. There are many other things I could say to reference that group. Social Club is fitting and harmless.
3) They píss and moan about us being too "negative." Really? How come the softball coaches, players and parents don't think we're too negative? How come coaches, players and parents of Tennis, Golf, Women's Soccer, Football, Baseball, or VBall don't think we're too "negative?" We know for a fact that folks from all of those programs listen. We get feedback from LOTS of different areas. Rebounder Club is the only group that has an issue with our "negativity." Pretty odd coincidence. We've treated every program at this school the exact same way: give an honest, educated opinion and call a spade a damn spade. 90% of the fan base (per a recent poll) want a change in basketball. I guess that has nothing to do with Bob Marlin's results and everything to do with Ragin Review's "negativity."
The fact is, even people around the administration and athletic complex know, several Rebounders Club members would rather bounce on Bob's lap than hold the coaching staff to any real expectation. That's a fact, and it's not a very well kept secret. I found it funny when one of the more vocal RC members tried to say "Y'all's podcast isn't taken seriously among RC members and the coaches." I thought to myself "Buddy, you're getting your âss conned and they don't take you seriously. Only difference is, we do it for free."
You missed my main point about the Rebounders Club. All of those people will continue to support the program regardless of who is the coach. They think the program deserves support due to the players in it. That will continue next year and the year after that following a possible change. That would occur even if you were the coach. As far as being negative or positive, that is immaterial as far as a podcast is concerned as it is opinion. That does not bother me in the least as everyone is entitled to have their say. I do suggest insuring your comments are accurate when you begin recording. Following the first game of the year, you guys went over what happened against West Florida. Everyone of you was surprised Kentrall Garnett started because you could not recall him playing whatsoever in 2021-22. Ya'll wondered if he was hurt. In fact he played quite a bit off the bench late in the year. In the last home game of the year over UTA which gave Coach Marlin some type of record, he had several big plays late in that game. I know that is being kind of picky but a suggestion going forward is to talk to someone who follows the team closely if you want to discuss actual play on the court and individual players. Granted that was during the heart of the football season and that was probably your focus vs basketball just starting. However, people who watch every basketball game caught the oversight. Discussing your view of the staff or administration is a different deal as that rarely involves what actually happens on the court. I will agree with you that the people who disagreed with the recent decision would have done so if your podcast never existed. It has little impact on those views or on the decision the administration made.
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Scott Malkinson
They idolize someone that would be gone in .5 seconds if anyone would offer him to go somewhere else
I will donate $100 to any program who hires Marlin.
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I am sure I will get lambasted for saying this, but to me this one line about the podcast making untrue statements was a little overplayed. You guys came off as having thin skins if that offended you enough to talk almost an hour about how you were being mistreated. I normally like the pod cast and agree with a lot of what ya'll say (including the need for a coaching change in basketball) but this stuff got a little old after about 10 minutes. I will continue to listen to the pods, but I hope you can keep it less about YOU and more about the issues. BTW, I felt like the "cult" stuff was a bit over the top. Fans are fans, (as in fanatics) and they do not always agree. That does not make them a cult.
If I offended anyone, sorry, but I guess everyone has a right to an opionion right?
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Clutch0364
I will donate $100 to any program who hires Marlin.
I'm in.
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Originally Posted by
Crawfish
I am sure I will get lambasted for saying this, but to me this one line about the podcast making untrue statements was a little overplayed. You guys came off as having thin skins if that offended you enough to talk almost an hour about how you were being mistreated. I normally like the pod cast and agree with a lot of what ya'll say (including the need for a coaching change in basketball) but this stuff got a little old after about 10 minutes. I will continue to listen to the pods, but I hope you can keep it less about YOU and more about the issues. BTW, I felt like the "cult" stuff was a bit over the top. Fans are fans, (as in fanatics) and they do not always agree. That does not make them a cult.
If I offended anyone, sorry, but I guess everyone has a right to an opionion right?
Fair assessment. And hopefully, this is a one-off type deal. But if someone is going to be critical of our stuff, at least get the facts straight before crop dusting it due to some sort of sour grapes you have with what we say. If there is something particular we said on the podcast that you don’t like, fine. Tell us like you’re doing now. Making stuff up and spreading it is wrong.
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Originally Posted by
Cajunsmike
You missed my main point about the Rebounders Club. All of those people will continue to support the program regardless of who is the coach. They think the program deserves support due to the players in it. That will continue next year and the year after that following a possible change. That would occur even if you were the coach. As far as being negative or positive, that is immaterial as far as a podcast is concerned as it is opinion. That does not bother me in the least as everyone is entitled to have their say. I do suggest getting all the information when you make comments. Following the first game of the year, you guys went over what happened. Everyone of you was surprised Kentrall Garnett started because you could not recall him playing whatsoever in 2021-22. Ya'll wondered if he was hurt. In fact he played quite a bit off the bench late in the year. In the last home game of the year over UTA which gave Coach Marlin some type of record, he had several big plays late in that game. I know that is being kind of picky but a suggestion going forward is to talk to someone who follows the team closely if you want to discuss actual play on the court and individual players. Discussing coaches is a different deal. I will agree with you that the people who disagreed with the recent decision would have done so if your podcast never existed. It has ZERO impact on those views or on the decision the administration made.
Yes, we were surprised that a walk-on started for a team that our head coach said was “the most talented he’s ever had.”
That should surprise anyone. It wasn’t about Garnett.
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Originally Posted by
Crawfish
I am sure I will get lambasted for saying this, but to me this one line about the podcast making untrue statements was a little overplayed. You guys came off as having thin skins if that offended you enough to talk almost an hour about how you were being mistreated. I normally like the pod cast and agree with a lot of what ya'll say (including the need for a coaching change in basketball) but this stuff got a little old after about 10 minutes. I will continue to listen to the pods, but I hope you can keep it less about YOU and more about the issues. BTW, I felt like the "cult" stuff was a bit over the top. Fans are fans, (as in fanatics) and they do not always agree. That does not make them a cult.
As far as making it about us, I’m going to agree to a point. We defended ourselves, our podcast, our work, our opinion and our right to be fans. That isn’t exclusive to this situation. This whole RCC vs RR is a microcosm of a much larger problem within our fanbase. In our view, it was necessary to defend the fans that actually care about pushing for progress by having standards.
If I offended anyone, sorry, but I guess everyone has a right to an opionion right?
First and foremost, thanks for listening and I’m sure I can speak for the others when I say I’m glad you like what we do.
Also, it isn’t the first time that those people tried to talk down to the podcast. It was past time to address it.
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Originally Posted by
ManAboutTown
Yes, we were surprised that a walk-on started for a team that our head coach said was “the most talented he’s ever had.”
That should surprise anyone. It wasn’t about Garnett.
Garnett starting surprised me as well. I think it surprised everyone. He started because he led the team in three point shooting percentage in the pre season workouts. It still surprised me due to his trouble at creating his own shot and although he gives full effort on defense, he is not as athletic as a couple of the other guys on that end. That was not my main point. My suggestion regarding getting your details correct was due to NONE of you having recall of the fact he played significant minutes at the end of the 2020-21 season.
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The two threads at the top of the board are about 1) seven pages about Whether or not the podcast accurately or in accurately represented what somebody said, and 2) 38 pages that Marlin is coming back.
Great weekend for diamond sports being relegated to insignificance due to ____ing matches.
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Originally Posted by
Crawfish
I am sure I will get lambasted for saying this, but to me this one line about the podcast making untrue statements was a little overplayed. You guys came off as having thin skins if that offended you enough to talk almost an hour about how you were being mistreated. I normally like the pod cast and agree with a lot of what ya'll say (including the need for a coaching change in basketball) but this stuff got a little old after about 10 minutes. I will continue to listen to the pods, but I hope you can keep it less about YOU and more about the issues. BTW, I felt like the "cult" stuff was a bit over the top. Fans are fans, (as in fanatics) and they do not always agree. That does not make them a cult.
If I offended anyone, sorry, but I guess everyone has a right to an opionion right?
First and foremost, thanks for listening and I’m sure I can speak for the others when I say I’m glad you like what we do.
As far as making it about us, I’m going to agree to a point. We defended ourselves, our podcast, our work, our opinion and our right to be fans. That isn’t exclusive to this situation. This whole RCC vs RR is a microcosm of a much larger problem within our fanbase. In our view, it was necessary to defend the fans that actually care about pushing for progress by having standards.
Also, it’s not the first time
These people talk down to the podcast. And it was past time to adress them.
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Originally Posted by
Cajunsmike
Garnett starting surprised me as well. That was because he led the team in three point shooting percentage in the pre season workouts. It still surprised me due to his trouble at creating his own shot and although he gives full effort on defense, he is not as athletic as a couple of the other guys on that end. That was not my main point. My suggestion was due to NONE of you having recall of the fact he played significant minutes at the end of the 2020-21 season.
Well I’ll openly say, like the rest of the fanbase, I quit paying attention to basketball.
