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Then how could they do it last year? Why is this team some 12% lower @ the line this season? Just saying it's a mental thing without identifying a root cause is a cop out for losers. Those who call these reasonable questions, thoughts, or observations jibberish need to check the validity of their own thoughts, as well as the process they use for gathering them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parrott
No, no...on the contrary. You solved everything. Just wish that Coach could have had you at those first couple of practices in October. You'd have spotted the problem...told Coach what to do to fix it...and 22 or so wins later, we'd all be sipping champagne (except me, of course...I don't drink...but I digress).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
Brad or Mike or anyone else close to Coach...please get a note to him that...1) the offense problem is fixed...and 2) bandwagonjumper MUST be at that first practice in October. Get the details worked out.
Done!
PS...wagonguy...remember not to leave town in late spring. We will need you for flood season.
I thought your observation was interesting (very) but it led me to the conclusion . . . the guy will be a superstar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
If EP did what he did as a freshman playing, shooting, dribbling with the wrong hand, I can't wait to see what the future has in store for this ambidextrous athlete.
Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRed
Saying he's dribbling with the wrong hand is like saying Steve Young throws with the wrong hand. But anyone who watched the 49ers during the Montana era & saw how they ran their offense. Then saw the way they had to flip their areas of attack & their rout tree understands what I' m talking about. If you don't it's a coaching thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
So I guess this means I won't get my answer whether the kid leans to the left or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRed
I'm 99% sure the Elfrid is right handed. Also losing LaRyan, Travis and Randell who were likely amongst the top FT shooters on the team could explain the drop
Could you explain? TIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlappyCajun
Can't be, Slappy. Wagonguy saw it and said it! You are wrong!Quote:
Originally Posted by SlappyCajun
I understand and in football UL had the same transition problem from JB to MD and again last year when Blaine took over.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
However (like Young) they actually used their left hand to throw.
EP shoots his free throws right handed, and mostly receives the ball right handed, and dribbles right handed when he is walking up the court. I do understand what yu said about dribbling with both hands.
What are you so intimidated for son? I wasn't even addressing you. I asked Slappy what made him 99% sure the guy is righty. Of course I have to be a fool though. I mean whether guys are righties or lefties has no bearing on anything in sports. I mean it's plain gibberish to think it could. I appreciate you simplifying that for idiots like myself who were misguided about such things.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRed
He dribbled the ball up the court left handed four out of every five possessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
Most good point guards can dribble nearly as well with either hand. It would be impossible to tell which hand was dominant just by which one he happens to use dribbling up the court. What hand he shoots with is his dominant hand. Elfrid shoots righty. He is right handed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
I was a poor high school point guard, and I can tell you I probably brought the ball up the court lefty as much as righty (I'm a righty). More based upon the upcoming play, defensive alignment, where our stud player happened to be lined up, which direction the defender was trying to force me, etc etc.
First, everything I've observed is that Payton is right-handed but is able to dribble with both hands. Point guards have to be able to use both hands. I know I did while playing competitively and still do today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
Second, how could the team shoot 12 percent lower at the free throw line this season? Let's get the numbers straight first. The Cajuns shot 42.8 percent from the floor, 32.8 percent from 3 and 63.1 percent on free throws this season - down from 43.6 percent overall, 34.7 percent from 3 and 66.4 percent at the line last season. Not sure where you're finding a 12 percent difference there.
The Cajuns lost several players from last season and added eight newcomers (six played, one was a transfer, one was lost due to injury). Among those gone from last season: Travis Bureau (team-high 41 percent shooting from 3), Randell Daigle (team-high 44s 3 made, 80.5 percent shooting on free throws), La'Ryan Gary (led team with 77 free throws made on team-high 101 attempts).
Some of the returning players and newcomers did not pick up the slack. David Perez's poor shooting percentages stayed the same (32.7 percent overall and 31.9 percent from 3 last season to 32.7 percent overall and 31.6 percent from 3 this season). Elfrid Payton shot 56.4 percent on free throws. J.J. Thomas' overall shooting percentage dipped drastically. Alan-Michael Thompson shot 33.6 percent overall and 31.6 percent from 3.
Root cause for the continued shooting woes: The Cajuns didn't have enough quality shooters from the floor and at the line. Most people seem to understand that fact. And it's going to be an issue next season unless they add a bunch of capable shooters in the offseason.
On another note, I'd say a person who has watched only two games this season and criticizes a coach who has won nearly 400 collegiate games for how his offense rotates is rather clueless. I guarantee any Division I coach - heck, high school coach - worth his salt could see that and would laugh at him for actually thinking it's a reasonable observation.
If you're so confident in your observation, why not share it in person with coach Marlin? If it's at all reasonable I'm sure he would appreciate it. Or perhaps you'd rather continue to gripe as a know-it-all poster on a message board?
If you'd like to continue this back-and-forth, I'm sure Turbine and the rest of the board would appreciate doing so by PM. Thanks.
Uhh - he is right handed, but like Parrot said, he has some skill and can dribble with both hands. Geez !?
I have an idea - lets move a 6'3", 165 lb Point Guard to Forward ...... genius!
And criticize a good collegiate coach in the process ..... lame.
You are a fool. Just wish someone close to you would sit you down and try to make you realize it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
I thought it was an interesting concept just nearly imposssible (overly complicated) to implement.
What do you do when EP takes a break?
Maybe that is why you were such a poor point guard? Maybe that is why you can't seem to design a successful tool either? You still trying to make a tool that you can pump a higher volume through a smaller ID with less pressure? That's what you told me you could do last year. Now why do I not find it surprising you are going out of your way to disagree with me again this spring? You may not realize this, but a right handed point guard is going to handle the ball with his right hand at least 80% of the time & a left handed point guard is going to do the same. Don't even try to argue the point because it's like saying a right handed QB is going to throw the ball from his left half the time or a right handed pitcher is going to pitch from his left at least half the time. Of course you were different than guys like, oh, I don't know, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, John Stckton, Duane Wade, Etc. Etc. Etc. I bet Coach Robichaux will tell you that a switch hitter favors one side of the plate over the other 99% of the time. I mean I could say we had a sunny day today & some of you people can figure out how I'm insulting the softaball team & accusing the track coach of screwing up the discus thrower. That is why you deserve what you get, when you get disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliek
Which is why EP shooting right handed makes me think he is right handed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
Ok then, if you are right handed it's probably not good policy to be taking the ball toward the left side of the key & attempt to pass the ball with your left hand to your team mates who are rotating to your right side in your half court offense, when the other team is in half court defense playing either man to man or zone coverage. UL did it 6 times that I counted in the 2nd half & every single time they did the result was a turnover. Insert character assasination now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
Dude - how much did you have to drink at the Dome? I don't think you were watching the same game as everyone else in attendance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
I think you know a bit about football ..... but no offense, you need to stop pretending you know anything about basketball and just go cheer for whoever the best NBA team or NCAA champion is and be a bandwagoner.
The Cajuns ran a weave type rotation at the top, with 2 rotating post players. After a few cycles, they would pull a post out to screen and roll, then rotate the weak side players - where believe it or not the correct pass for the PG is to reverse the ball to the opposite side - or drive.
Not true that every single time it was a turnover - as it lead to a Brown 3 pointer and a few FT attempts by Coleby and McClellan.
Point being - just stick to football - not questioning character - just your basketball IQ.
Every time that I am refering to, they ran a box type rotation in a counterclockwise movement with the low post moving right to left then coming up toward the free throw line & cutting back away from the point. When the defense was in man to man the trailer always had in side out leverage & was able to jump in the passing lane & take the ball away. When the defense was in a two three zone the lower post defender on the right collapsed & was able to knock the ball to the two man as the ball handler was attemting to move to his left trying to turn to the rim. I am not saying they didn't have success running this rotation earlier because it didn't catch my attention one way or the other until about 6 minutes into the second half. But it sure as hell didn't work in the second half. In fact, they had three possesions in a row with a turnover resulting in all three. You can argue about them running a different rotation or several different rotations because it wasn't the only offense they ran, but they definitely ran that rotation several times in the second half with disasterous results. You may call it a weave, but every time they attempted to hit the cutter going the opposite way it was a turnover plain & simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by NicholsonVoice
You notice how I did that without making slur against you for effect. Maybe you can bring the level of your game up a little. BTW, I'm pretty sure Elfrid wasn't in the game when Josh or Thompson made their threes. I don't recall anyone else making a three. I also noticed one lame attempt at a high screen in the second half.
FYI, I picked FSU to beat Murray St. in the finals. I doubt that is the consensus bandwagon pick.
And that's one of the reasons why our inconsitency all season at hitting the outside shot was such a problem. For that offensive set to work effectively, the offense needs to be able put down the shot from the extended foul line... either off the screen and roll or off the pass to weak side. It keeps the defense honest. If you watched the UT-UC game today, you saw UC running that same set on the Longhorns and make it work by being able to hit those shots. OTOH, opponents in our games knew we weren't capable of hitting that outside shot and were able to cheat off on defense and do just like BK described in his post. That's why it's so important for our returning guys to work their tails off in the off-season to improve their shooting skills and hopefully will be a point of emphasis in recruiting this spring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandwagon King
I'm sitting here watching ND play Xavier & ND obviously has a left handed point guard. He has successfully matriculated the ball down the court for several possessions & the first TO he had was attempting to throw a pass to his right with his left hand. He had just gone to his right the time before, but the offensive rotation was switched from right to left back to left to right with the players immediately recognizing his adjustment & adjusting their offense accordingly.
At some point arguing with him is like wrestling with a pig in the mud. Sooner or later you figure out the pig likes the mud!