Charting UL Enrollment since 1901

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Originally Posted by CajunNation

_ http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

Search Louisiana

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5,810

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>University of Louisiana at Monroe </TD><TD>Monroe </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

5,849

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row-alt><TD>Southern University and A & M College </TD><TD>Baton Rouge </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

6,192

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>University of New Orleans </TD><TD>New Orleans </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

6,462

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row-alt><TD>Louisiana Tech University </TD><TD>Ruston </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

6,672

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>Southeastern Louisiana University </TD><TD>Hammond </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

10,983

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row-alt><TD>University of Louisiana at Lafayette </TD><TD>Lafayette </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

12,524

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College </TD><TD>Baton Rouge </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

21,698

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These are a year behind, but they are from the office of enrollment services at UL.:D
University of Louisiana
Six Year Fall Enrollment

Six Year | Classification | Ethnicity | College | Prior Years

Fall 2003 Fall 2004 Fall 2005 Fall 2006 Fall 2007 Fall 2008
Total 16,208 16,561 17,075 16,303 16,345 16,320

Undergraduates 14,585 15,043 15,564 14,924 14,931 14,806
Graduates 1,623 1,518 1,511 1,379 1,414 1,514

Full Time 12,851 13,117 13,780 13,391 13,346 13,194
Part Time 3,357 3,444 3,295 2,912 2,999 3,126

Male 6,903 6,930 7,078 6,908 6,919 6,872
Female 9,305 9,631 9,997 9,395 9,426 9,448

In-State 14,874 15,160 15,597 14,955 14,933 14,789
Out-of-State 617 697 767 743 761 778
Out-of-Country 717 704 711 605 651 753


How is that!

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Originally Posted by LATechDawgs

_ Also. You're pulling this north LA population loss from thin air. There's no such thing, and even if there was, you wouldn't know it until the census is completed in 2010. I've never heard this. Ever.

Ruston is growing, Shreveport is growing, and Monroe is relatively stable, if not dropping slightly. The Haynesville Shale, V-Vehicle plant, and other new industry that has recently come about in North LA will show the opposite trend. _

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The loss of population in N. LA. is not out of thin air. And this probably has little to do with university undergraduate population, but you made it seem N. Louisiana is not shrinking in population and that somehow this is just made up. So, using the google population map you cited I spent way too much time looking at the populations of the parishes north of Alex. Seventeen of those parishes fell in population and six increased (the largest being Bossier up by 36% or 29,500 people from 1980 to 2009.) Some of these places are hemorrhaging people: E. Carroll, Tensas, and Madison have lost 25 to 36% of their population.

But per cent can be misleading, so I looked at actual number of growth in each parish and the net total for 24 northern or central Louisiana parishes is negative 16,600 folks. I did not have time to figure out what 16,600 is as a per cent of the total (it is probably 2 or 3%), but it is shrinking when the average nationwide for growth is about 2 to 3 per cent.

I'm not a big Moon fan, but I did hear the show where population guy was on, and what he was saying is that the trend in LA. is that the I-10 corridor is growing fast while north La. (with the exception of Shreveport and Ruston) is shrinking. If you remove those two population centers,and the bottom falls out population wise for the northern half of our state. The ten parishes around Lafayette, by comparison, have grown by a population of 103,500 (the largest being Lafayette which has grown 37% or 56,700 people.) Most these parishes have grown by double digit per cent. Now, some of this may be Katrina generated, but certainly not all.

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Originally Posted by LATechDawgs

_ Also. You're pulling this north LA population loss from thin air. There's no such thing, and even if there was, you wouldn't know it until the census is completed in 2010. I've never heard this. Ever.

Ruston is growing, Shreveport is growing, and Monroe is relatively stable, if not dropping slightly. The Haynesville Shale, V-Vehicle plant, and other new industry that has recently come about in North LA will show the opposite trend. _

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I believe Boomer's right, north Louisiana is shrinking. Elliot Stonecipher says that in 25 years, Louisiana has not grown, while the US has grown 33%. Within the state, the only parishes that have kept up with national growth have all been on the I-10 corridor, with Bossier Parish as the lone exception.

So if the I-10 corridor is growing rapidly, and Louisiana's population is stagnant, then north Louisiana has to be shrinking...

(BTW, Stonecipher also points out that all the parishes that have kept up, except Lafayette & Bossier, grew because of white flight; Bossier grew because of Barksdale. Only Lafayette grew by diversifying our economy. Stonecipher is from Shreveport, so his assessments should be impartial.)

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Originally Posted by CajunNation

_ http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

Search Louisiana

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5,810

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>University of Louisiana at Monroe </TD><TD>Monroe </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

5,849

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row-alt><TD>Southern University and A & M College </TD><TD>Baton Rouge </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

6,192

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>University of New Orleans </TD><TD>New Orleans </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

6,462

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row-alt><TD>Louisiana Tech University </TD><TD>Ruston </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

6,672

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>Southeastern Louisiana University </TD><TD>Hammond </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

10,983

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row-alt><TD>University of Louisiana at Lafayette </TD><TD>Lafayette </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

12,524

</TD></TR><TR class=gv-row><TD>Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College </TD><TD>Baton Rouge </TD><TD>LA </TD><TD style="WIDTH: 100px" align=right>

21,698

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OK, time to point out the smoke & mirrors.

Those numbers are undergrad enrollment. You also need to include grad school numbers. You also need part time enrollment.

And you need 'junk' enrollment. Leisure Learning? Continuing Ed? I've been told those numbers are also included. Mind you, every school in the country counts those kind of courses, so if it's not entirely honest, at least it's consistent.

Boomer, as for graduate enrollment I saw a single source that reported that Tech has a larger grad school than UL does. I have doubts about that, because we're twice their size, we have 3 or 4 more PhD programs, and we have a much larger research budget (which correlates with grad school activity). It's possible their masters programs make up the difference, particularly if they offer Masters programs that are the only such offerings in north Louisiana. Like I said, it seems doubtful. I'll keep digging.

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Complaining about the University on the boards and in public hurts UL,
and it hurts the Ragin' Cajuns.

Negativity undermines our recruiting, fundraising, attendance, and ticket sales.

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Originally Posted by CajunFun

_ I believe Boomer's right, north Louisiana is shrinking. Elliot Stonecipher says that in 25 years, Louisiana has not grown, while the US has grown 33%. Within the state, the only parishes that have kept up with national growth have all been on the I-10 corridor, with Bossier Parish as the lone exception.

So if the I-10 corridor is growing rapidly, and Louisiana's population is stagnant, then north Louisiana has to be shrinking...

(BTW, Stonecipher also points out that all the parishes that have kept up, except Lafayette & Bossier, grew because of white flight; Bossier grew because of Barksdale. Only Lafayette grew by diversifying our economy. Stonecipher is from Shreveport, so his assessments should be impartial.) _

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So why would not a congressman be taken from North La.?--Gerrymandering is truly their only hope---If we get 6------1 in the North(Sport,Alex and Mon)----------1 in Lafayette1 and West(LC)-----1 in BR-------1 in northshore ------1 in NO ------1 from NO through Jeff, St Charles Terr St Mary NI Assumpt. and Ascension!!!!

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Originally Posted by Cajunmac

_ The loss of population in N. LA. is not out of thin air. And this probably has little to do with university undergraduate population, but you made it seem N. Louisiana is not shrinking in population and that somehow this is just made up. So, using the google population map you cited I spent way too much time looking at the populations of the parishes north of Alex. Seventeen of those parishes fell in population and six increased (the largest being Bossier up by 36% or 29,500 people from 1980 to 2009.) Some of these places are hemorrhaging people: E. Carroll, Tensas, and Madison have lost 25 to 36% of their population.

But per cent can be misleading, so I looked at actual number of growth in each parish and the net total for 24 northern or central Louisiana parishes is negative 16,600 folks. I did not have time to figure out what 16,600 is as a per cent of the total (it is probably 2 or 3%), but it is shrinking when the average nationwide for growth is about 2 to 3 per cent.

I'm not a big Moon fan, but I did hear the show where population guy was on, and what he was saying is that the trend in LA. is that the I-10 corridor is growing fast while north La. (with the exception of Shreveport and Ruston) is shrinking. If you remove those two population centers,and the bottom falls out population wise for the northern half of our state. The ten parishes around Lafayette, by comparison, have grown by a population of 103,500 (the largest being Lafayette which has grown 37% or 56,700 people.) Most these parishes have grown by double digit per cent. Now, some of this may be Katrina generated, but certainly not all. _

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It's illegal immigrant generated too. Every morning, on my way to work, I see that another Mexican restaurant magically appears over night.

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Originally Posted by Boomer

_ So why would not a congressman be taken from North La.?--Gerrymandering is truly their only hope---If we get 6------1 in the North(Sport,Alex and Mon)----------1 in Lafayette1 and West(LC)-----1 in BR-------1 in northshore ------1 in NO ------1 from NO through Jeff, St Charles Terr St Mary NI Assumpt. and Ascension!!!! _

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You're not going to like the answer: politics.

New Orleans is going to swing a lot of clout, and insure that the maximum number of districts cut into the city (currently 3 do). But the 6th (BR) will have to expand, almost certainly into the 5th (Monroe), 1st (Northshore) and 3rd (Houma/Thibodaux). New Orleans will contract some.

On the other hand, for North Louisiana to maintain two districts, the current 4th District (Shreveport & Alec) will probably reach down into LC-- meaning there is a good possibility someone from LC could be elected to that District.

And if the current 7th (Lafayette) loses LC, we'll have to pick up more of Acadiana. Which will give us more cohesion, right now we're split between the 3rd & the 7th.

Trust me, it will be interesting.

http://nationalatlas.gov/printable/i...ecgd110_la.gif

Boomer the enrollment at U L is 16,464 students total and we expect it to increase to 16,664 this year with the incoming freshmen!

Do you have a list of the others and was T-Joe upset that we did not get more???----I know he only came on in May------ BBBBBUT!!!!!

SLCC has a fall enrollment of 3,600 students...