Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by miamicajun32
we all understand that. Just having difficulty getting the memory of a winning tradition out of our system. As long as Lee is coach of this program, it will be no better than middle of the pack sunbelt and at best .500 overall record, with some very inconsistent results and sometimes getting blown out by lesser teams.
I advise that you get aspirations of a bright next few years of Cajuns basketball out of your system, so you will not be as dissapointed and let down.
If Lee is here to stay because of the ridiculous long-term contract then just expect the losses to mount. My frustration is more with salvaging the long-term future of the program. How does the program keep its long-term winning tradition after the next few years of losing records and embarassing play.
I certainly don't have the answers. But perhaps it is an interesting subject to consider in a fan forum. Let's look ahead to 2 or 3 years from now, when Lee is finally gone, and think of ways to rebound from 4 years of losing and very little fan support. How do we get the pride back in the program, to the level it was after decades of winning tradition (up until the Lee experiment)? How should the program make sure that the next hire is qualified for the job? How can UL attract high level coaching candidates a few years from now, after such a bad run of losing games and fan support (those on this forum and many other Cajuns fans will keep caring, but a lot of long-time supporters will just stop caring I imagine).
We all know that Lee is here to stay for at least 2 more years of losing. Thankfully, Tiras Wade did not come back last year or UL administration would have responded after another NCAA run with another contract extension. Just 2 or 3 more years of losing and inconsistency and excuses and bs propoganda about how things are actually better than before. But it is 2 or 3 years too many....
There is nothing fans can do to improve the situation now or three years from now. Better players need to be brought in. Are the six guys on line to come on board next year good enough to make a significant impact, I don't know. I do know that we will probably stay with the bulk of these for awhile. If Coach Lee is let go in a couple of years, the new guy will have to coach the guys recruited last year for awhile. The guys we ran off last year were JC guys who were not going to get us to the tournament this year and had other issues.
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by CajunKahouna
Maybe so. But when are these "quality commitments" final?
There are no "quality" commitments. Four guys are in school as they did not qualify last year. They all did well in the fall semester. One guy signed-signed-not committed in the fall period while another transfer from U of H is sitting out.
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by K.Tripucka
Let us not keep using youth as an excuse here. We do have youth, and they are seemingly talented, but our core players this year are NOT young.
Dees-Junior
Mouton-Senior
Hebert-Junior
James-Senior
Milson-Junior
Gray-3rd year Sophmore
Now we have relied, at times, on Milsap, Lago, and Wallace just like we have relied at times on Hart and (I can't belive I'm saying this) Alphonso, just like every other team in D1 some veterans and some newcomers. What I am saying is we are not as young as we say we are. We may not be talented enough in our veterans, and we may have to wait til next year for that talent. But we are not young this year. I am a huge Lee fan, and I agree with BOP that his x's and o's are better than his predecessors, but it does seem that his teams lack his intensity and therefore are not having any fun dealing with his intensity. I say if there is a shortcoming in Lee, that is it, but the players knew what kind of coach Lee was when they signed up to play for him. Now most of these core players were brought in by Evans and Cyprien, so we will see if Lee's recruits live up to this. But remember Lee does not have a uniform on and it is still up to the players to produce. I believe that this group of young players we have waiting this year and the new additions next year are talented enough to continue the Cajun bball tradition. If they cannot, then maybe it is time for Lee to go. But I will reserve judgement till then. Lee's signature teams are to play hard, fundemental, defensive basketball and maybe that is not what these kids want or maybe Lee is having trouble relating that to them, but it does not seem to be happening this year. But I will not blame that on youth!
I agree we are not that young. However, we are definitely inexperienced as the only one of those guys who played significant minutes for an entire season before this year is Dees who did it at another school.
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
I like dome foam!!!!!!!!!!! Can't figure out why I don't attend basketball games anymore?????:rolleyes: hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
We need to revoke the free lunches and get new players, top to bottom except for Dees and Millsap
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by scotto_25
I like dome foam!!!!!!!!!!! Can't figure out why I don't attend basketball games anymore?????:rolleyes: hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
We need to revoke the free lunches and get new players, top to bottom except for Dees and Millsap
I tried explaining the whole free lunches thing, but I don't think the people on this site understand that. Some athletes only come here to get that Free Lunch and to say that they are part of a team, in hopes of getting some female friends.
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by K.Tripucka
Let us not keep using youth as an excuse here. We do have youth, and they are seemingly talented, but our core players this year are NOT young.
Dees-Junior
Mouton-Senior
Hebert-Junior
James-Senior
Milson-Junior
Gray-3rd year Sophmore
Now we have relied, at times, on Milsap, Lago, and Wallace just like we have relied at times on Hart and (I can't belive I'm saying this) Alphonso, just like every other team in D1 some veterans and some newcomers. What I am saying is we are not as young as we say we are. We may not be talented enough in our veterans, and we may have to wait til next year for that talent. But we are not young this year. I am a huge Lee fan, and I agree with BOP that his x's and o's are better than his predecessors, but it does seem that his teams lack his intensity and therefore are not having any fun dealing with his intensity. I say if there is a shortcoming in Lee, that is it, but the players knew what kind of coach Lee was when they signed up to play for him. Now most of these core players were brought in by Evans and Cyprien, so we will see if Lee's recruits live up to this. But remember Lee does not have a uniform on and it is still up to the players to produce. I believe that this group of young players we have waiting this year and the new additions next year are talented enough to continue the Cajun bball tradition. If they cannot, then maybe it is time for Lee to go. But I will reserve judgement till then. Lee's signature teams are to play hard, fundemental, defensive basketball and maybe that is not what these kids want or maybe Lee is having trouble relating that to them, but it does not seem to be happening this year. But I will not blame that on youth!
Excellent post! :ms09:
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by Doyle
I tried explaining the whole free lunches thing, but I don't think the people on this site understand that. Some athletes only come here to get that Free Lunch and to say that they are part of a team, in hopes of getting some female friends.
:D
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by Doyle
I tried explaining the whole free lunches thing, but I don't think the people on this site understand that. Some athletes only come here to get that Free Lunch and to say that they are part of a team, in hopes of getting some female friends.
So you're saying you ate a lot, and you met a lot of ladies as a "student/athlete". Any other confessions worthy of forum entertainment during your career as a Cajun athlete? Just kidding (I think), but you opened yourself up for that one.
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by K.Tripucka
Let us not keep using youth as an excuse here. We do have youth, and they are seemingly talented, but our core players this year are NOT young.
Dees-Junior
Mouton-Senior
Hebert-Junior
James-Senior
Milson-Junior
Gray-3rd year Sophmore
Now we have relied, at times, on Milsap, Lago, and Wallace just like we have relied at times on Hart and (I can't belive I'm saying this) Alphonso, just like every other team in D1 some veterans and some newcomers. What I am saying is we are not as young as we say we are. We may not be talented enough in our veterans, and we may have to wait til next year for that talent. But we are not young this year. I am a huge Lee fan, and I agree with BOP that his x's and o's are better than his predecessors, but it does seem that his teams lack his intensity and therefore are not having any fun dealing with his intensity. I say if there is a shortcoming in Lee, that is it, but the players knew what kind of coach Lee was when they signed up to play for him. Now most of these core players were brought in by Evans and Cyprien, so we will see if Lee's recruits live up to this. But remember Lee does not have a uniform on and it is still up to the players to produce. I believe that this group of young players we have waiting this year and the new additions next year are talented enough to continue the Cajun bball tradition. If they cannot, then maybe it is time for Lee to go. But I will reserve judgement till then. Lee's signature teams are to play hard, fundemental, defensive basketball and maybe that is not what these kids want or maybe Lee is having trouble relating that to them, but it does not seem to be happening this year. But I will not blame that on youth!
I give you two thumbs up on this one. I believe "youth" as a description of this team should have been "inexperience". In reality our current dilema is a mix of experience (lack of), talent (moderate at best), and player make-up (the 5 players on the floor at any given time are not a true starting five... sorry). Coach Lee is not the blame for that (IMO - the grand debate). The cries that the "sky is falling" on the entire MBB program are overboard. It is one sport that you can rebound (no pun intended) very quickly.
And, for all of you who argue that some of us are willing to accept mediocrity... I expect... expect... to be in the NCAA every year... only waiting to see how high we get seeded... and consider an invite to the NIT as a "down year". I will wait to see how Lee does with the rest of this year, and next... and will fire both barrels, if appropriate, at that time.
Re: Struggling Ragin' Cajuns seek road win
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Originally Posted by Just1More
So you're saying you ate a lot, and you met a lot of ladies as a "student/athlete". Any other confessions worthy of forum entertainment during your career as a Cajun athlete? Just kidding (I think), but you opened yourself up for that one.
Never said I was a Cajun Athlete. Played elsewhere. And you're right, I did leave myself open for that. Nice One
