Coach Napier's EXit

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Originally Posted by gorcajun

Jerry Simmons, J. Kelley Hall, Yvette Girouard and now Billy Napier are the only head coaches in my lifetime to leave UL for a better position.

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Football!!!! Yes, this is the first time.

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Originally Posted by ULGrad@HOU

Exactly, just the nature of the job. Even OU lost their coach, and is looking. It can happen anywhere, anytime. We need to press on.

Good luck to you Coach Napier, we enjoyed the success and the pride you gave the UL Ragin Cajun Football program.

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No one wants to work for the dumpster fire down the street, they will continue having a rough time finding someone, and I’m loving every minute of it. Geaux Louisiana.

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Originally Posted by OrlandeauxCajun

No one wants to work for the dumpster fire down the street, they will continue having a rough time finding someone, and I’m loving every minute of it. Geaux Louisiana.

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It's funny how they like to tell you it is a top 3 or 4 job in college football but the always hire their 6th or 7th choice.

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Originally Posted by Boomer

Waiting for some guesses of new guy!!!

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We have a thread for that, Boomer.

Who'd have thought Oklahoma becoming a stepping stone? Believe the Sooner fanbase feeling much maligned today losing their coach. Its a bummer losing CBN, but getting a fourth year out of his program was a big deal at least it was to me. So we can celebrate him. The Sooners won't be celebrating Riley that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by SlickRick

App has a long history of winning, we don't. They have a hard core fan base, we don't. Houston is in a mega city with a billionaire benefactor, we don't.

We would need to stay in the top 25, like Boise did to really have a shot at moving on from the G5. Saying and believing Lsu is our rival is what's needed. CBN staying was likely out last chance. He was our unicorn. That's how I see it. And, I still think it's ____ty to announce before our biggest game.

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Yet none of them had coaches stay 10 years. The Frank Beamer model is something of the past unless your Saban, Dabo and a few others.

Appalachian State has hired to a system. Boise State hired to their system. We need to hire someone that comes from the same model and uses the same processes. We have recruited athletes to play in that system. It won't be easy, but it's a task that Dr. Maggard can handle.

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Originally Posted by CajunT

Yet none of them had coaches stay 10 years. The Frank Beamer model is something of the past unless your Saban, Dabo and a few others.

Appalachian State has hired to a system. Boise State hired to their system. We need to hire someone that comes from the same model and uses the same processes. We have recruited athletes to play in that system. It won't be easy, but it's a task that Dr. Maggard can handle.

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Absolutely!

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Originally Posted by CajunT

We need to hire someone that comes from the same model and uses the same processes. We have recruited athletes to play in that system.

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And I will be shocked (and upset) if we don't do just that. Hiring a coach just based on prior success and reputation reminds me of the financial disclosures you see all the time - Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

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Originally Posted by CajunT

Yet none of them had coaches stay 10 years. The Frank Beamer model is something of the past unless your Saban, Dabo and a few others.

Appalachian State has hired to a system. Boise State hired to their system. We need to hire someone that comes from the same model and uses the same processes. We have recruited athletes to play in that system. It won't be easy, but it's a task that Dr. Maggard can handle.

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Gary Patterson, TCU also fits that description. Those guys are needles in the haystack. Chris Peterson at Boise for seven years was a gift to them. No one in G5 can count on a very successful football coach more than 3 to 4 years before they are poached. Anything more is gravy. Agree 100%, on aligning hiring criteria with our current system then building from there.

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Originally Posted by SlickRick

And, I still think it's ____ty to announce before our biggest game.

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I'm sure Billy Napier didn't have a choice on this last part. While I don't know the man personally, I'm sure he'd rather have as few distractions as possible before this weekend.

However, it's very likely Florida's big boosters were demanding an announcement to know their money and program would be placed in good hands, and Florida's administration probably told Coach Napier if he didn't want it announced this week, then they'd go after someone who had no problem with it.

Billy Napier wasn't going to turn down that opportunity.

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

I'm sure Billy Napier didn't have a choice on this last part. While I don't know the man personally, I'm sure he'd rather have as few distractions as possible before this weekend.

However, it's very likely Florida's big boosters were demanding an announcement to know their money and program would be placed in good hands, and Florida's administration probably told Coach Napier if he didn't want it announced this week, then they'd go after someone who had no problem with it.

Billy Napier wasn't going to turn down that opportunity.

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No doubt. Schools do NOT like waiting to announce. The AD at Alabama tried to put Saban on a plane and go back to Bama with him the same day he agreed to leave the Dolphins and coach Bama. It was apparently a difficult decision to allow Sabin to sleep on it overnight and head to Tuscalossa the next morning instead.

I don't have an issue with how it was handled. I believe there are now much fewer distractions than there would have been otherwise.

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Originally Posted by CajunT

Yet none of them had coaches stay 10 years. The Frank Beamer model is something of the past unless your Saban, Dabo and a few others.

Appalachian State has hired to a system. Boise State hired to their system. We need to hire someone that comes from the same model and uses the same processes. We have recruited athletes to play in that system. It won't be easy, but it's a task that Dr. Maggard can handle.

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Great observation T...

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

I'm sure Billy Napier didn't have a choice on this last part. While I don't know the man personally, I'm sure he'd rather have as few distractions as possible before this weekend.

However, it's very likely Florida's big boosters were demanding an announcement to know their money and program would be placed in good hands, and Florida's administration probably told Coach Napier if he didn't want it announced this week, then they'd go after someone who had no problem with it.

Billy Napier wasn't going to turn down that opportunity.

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The situation we have with Billy over the next 6 days is actually very rare. Most times the coach leaves almost immediately. The fact that he's sticking around to coach the CCG was probably a compromise he made with the Florida AD. Like sure you can announce me now, but I'm staying through 12/4. Good on all parties to make that happen, because I'm sure Florida is antsy to get him in ASAP with early signing on 12/15.

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

The situation we have with Billy over the next 6 days is actually very rare. Most times the coach leaves almost immediately. The fact that he's sticking around to coach the CCG was probably a compromise he made with the Florida AD. Like sure you can announce me now, but I'm staying through 12/4. Good on all parties to make that happen, because I'm sure Florida is antsy to get him in ASAP with early signing on 12/15.

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Your last sentence is key … for us! We needed to have this time to conduct a thorough search/hire before signing day as well. If done in time there is still opportunities to re-recruit any prospects the new regime wants to pursue. Doesn’t mean we will get them but at least we’ll have a better chance with a new coach already onboard.

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Originally Posted by CajunFan3406

The situation we have with Billy over the next 6 days is actually very rare. Most times the coach leaves almost immediately. The fact that he's sticking around to coach the CCG was probably a compromise he made with the Florida AD. Like sure you can announce me now, but I'm staying through 12/4. Good on all parties to make that happen, because I'm sure Florida is antsy to get him in ASAP with early signing on 12/15.

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I believe we will find in the next few years that CBN is a very rare commodity that we were fortunate to have for 4 years here.

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Originally Posted by CajunVic

I believe we will find in the next few years that CBN is a very rare commodity that we were fortunate to have for 4 years here.

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I agree with that 100%. Rare, not doubt, but not a unicorn. LOL!

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Originally Posted by shof

Your last sentence is key … for us! We needed to have this time to conduct a thorough search/hire before signing day as well. If done in time there is still opportunities to re-recruit any prospects the new regime wants to pursue. Doesn’t mean we will get them but at least we’ll have a better chance with a new coach already onboard.

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Good point.

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Originally Posted by SlickRick

App has a long history of winning, we don't. They have a hard core fan base, we don't. Houston is in a mega city with a billionaire benefactor, we don't.

We would need to stay in the top 25, like Boise did to really have a shot at moving on from the G5. Saying and believing Lsu is our rival is what's needed. CBN staying was likely out last chance. He was our unicorn. That's how I see it. And, I still think it's ____ty to announce before our biggest game.

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And, I take the opposite view. There will be fewer distractions now that the decision has been made. To wait another week would have been disastrous with the unknown permeating through the football team. Look, every player knew what could happen. Them knowing is actually good as it lets them focus on the task at hand.

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Originally Posted by JayWalker

And, I take the opposite view. There will be fewer distractions now that the decision has been made. To wait another week would have been disastrous with the unknown permeating through the football team. Look, every player knew what could happen. Them knowing is actually good as it lets them focus on the task at hand.

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I agree get the announcement out of the way and focus on the game this week.

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Originally Posted by JayWalker

And, I take the opposite view. There will be fewer distractions now that the decision has been made. To wait another week would have been disastrous with the unknown permeating through the football team. Look, every player knew what could happen. Them knowing is actually good as it lets them focus on the task at hand.

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Yeah, I'm seeing it differently today. They need to change the early signing date to keep this type stuff from happening every year. Move it back to January, or just have one signing date after the first of the year.

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Originally Posted by SlickRick

I agree with that 100%. Rare, not doubt, but not a unicorn. LOL!

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It can be done. Arkansas State had a blueprint (up until Blake Anderson wore out his welcome). App State has a blueprint and has held by it. UL can do the same.

Arkansas State went from Hugh Freeze to Gus Malzahn to Bryan Harsin to Blake Anderson and were 85-48 under those coaches in those years.

App State went from Scott Satterfield to Eli Drinkwitz to Shawn Clark and went 83-15 under those coaches in those years (Not to mention what they did with Sparky Woods and Jerry More before that which was a totla of 253-106-2.

It can be done, we just need to make it happen.

I’m very happy for CBN and how this process all worked out with the timing and all. I wish he and his family well and much success but him going there won’t make me a Gators fan, maybe I just won’t pull against them!

I only pull for one P5 team and that’s because I live in the town of the university. I always pull for every G5 against a P5 and I hope all P5 v P5 games end in a tie. Until they allow all FBS schools into their championship.

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Originally Posted by RaginDave

It can be done. Arkansas State had a blueprint (up until Blake Anderson wore out his welcome). App State has a blueprint and has held by it. UL can do the same.

Arkansas State went from Hugh Freeze to Gus Malzahn to Bryan Harsin to Blake Anderson and were 85-48 under those coaches in those years.

App State went from Scott Satterfield to Eli Drinkwitz to Shawn Clark and went 83-15 under those coaches in those years (Not to mention what they did with Sparky Woods and Jerry More before that which was a totla of 253-106-2.

It can be done, we just need to make it happen.

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Until recently when they hired Butch Jones. Unfortunately, that is not the model in which they have had success with.

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Originally Posted by HOUCajun

I’m not sure. But that is in no way relevant if they do. We are not playing Florida.

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No to playing anything but UL music
Nothing honoring UF
The championship game isn’t about UF, but UL
Support UL and we’re supporting our players, and staff led by CBN
It’s really that simple.

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Originally Posted by SlickRick

It's about getting out of the G5.

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Not really. Oklahoma just proved any instruction can be victimized. Just more so at our level, but don’t believe P5 coaches aren’t targeted and gotten by the bigger fish in P5.

Coaches i’m talking about. I’m not in disagreement about getting to P5 is best.