Crazy this has to be regurgitated for you but here's a small snapshot:Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTails
____/nonexistent marketing.....botched head football coach hire....terrible in game experience....silent fundraising for stadium reno.....
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Crazy this has to be regurgitated for you but here's a small snapshot:Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTails
____/nonexistent marketing.....botched head football coach hire....terrible in game experience....silent fundraising for stadium reno.....
First of all, this is for next season. A coordinated effort could be put together very easily. The line of people that have attempted to meet with this administration is very long. It's very well documented here. Not sure where you've been. Just recently, (and they talked about it on Ragin Review) 2 former players put together such a list to bring to the admin. A detailed list and how to implement it. Guess what? The wouldn't even meet with them. Two former players/alums! Many people have tried. They don't want to hear it. They won't even give them the common courtesy to HEAR them. So I'm not sure why you're acting like there's nothing to bring to the table. If they opened that up, the line would be overwhelming. It's strange that someone like you who's been here forever hasn't seen that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTails
Idk how an organized boycott is any different than the abysmal attendance we've been having. I don't understand how that sends a message to the admin if they already don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by BananaHammock
But great start on the list, at least you have something concrete to begin to organize your boycott with.
I didn't listen to the post-Troy RR episode where Terry and James called in. I have seen the issues on here over the years, hell I've even brought some up (specifically Ticketmaster fees years ago), but I think boycotting our boys is ridiculous. Could you imagine if y'all actually got some momentum and word got out to our players and programs that recruit against us? Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler
But I'm sure some of the people on here wouldn't mind because they are over the CMD era.
Radio silence from athletic administration, not good...but we've got a new football stadium coming up. New digital ticket solution in the works. Athletics made 5-6 outbound ticket sales positions that we posted on here a few weeks ago. I think a lot of issues talked about on here are being addressed, but not all. But we're an athletic department operating in the red with only a $30 million budget. We're not like our peers you guys keep saying are getting it done that have larger budgets than us thanks to student fees that we can't impose.
In game experience? Yea, I hope they have some ideas in mind beyond just a new facility.
But you're gonna boycott football in light of all of that?
Look bruh, I'm just gonna go ahead and say it.
If y'all boycott our football team, old paw paw gonna pull your toes while you sleeping.
The Greeks were not the cool cats when I was in College at UL. It was the non Greek student population at UL when I was in college. Greeks were bigger at ULM than at UL in the early 2000s from my experience. The general UL student population was way bigger than the Greeks.
Don’t let the Greeks dictate this ____. Support the team.
Speaking from experience at both colleges. Since when do the Greeks speak for the whole student population? Student population is way bigger than the Greeks. Don’t boycott ever. That’s some stupid ____.
LoL! Baw let mawmaw find out you not boycotting! She gon' take a switch to ya lil @$$Quote:
Originally Posted by RedTails
Not sure what any of these are about. But whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by ManAboutTown
violation happened before homecoming that’s being penalized now makes some sense. They had to review. Gather evidence. Make a ruling. Not defending anything but I married a Greek who was enrolled at UL in the not so distant past. We’re also friends with someone who was the president of a UL chapter of a sorority and employed by the university under Lindsey. Who we can all agree (and based on my conversations) is just terrible.
Not trying to stir it up. Just asking for info so I can understand.
Not sure what “cease desist” is but apparently it’s not a thing. Did they deny their status? Lose privileges? If so, what did they do?
Just trying to separate this email from football. Or what actually happened. Before the pitchforks get sharpened because they were out before. And I get it.
Get over it. The Greeks are a minority in the overall student population.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaginScotsman
Embrace the entire student population at UL, not just the small Greek population who _____ and complain about everything. Sound like some entitled people now.
The chapters may be banned from having events if that is actually the case but their members can still attend. They are still students. And Greek sanction against a chapter can’t impact that. We need them there.Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
Yes! Let’s embrace the whole student population. The thousands of kids who fill up the student section every week! Oh wait….They don’t show up either. Maybe they are using their voice as well and you just aren’t listening.Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
That’s the point. The Greeks don’t represent but a small % of the students.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaginScotsman
Welcome all the students!!!
Greek, religious organizations, honor organizations, student organizations etc. the Greeks are a small % of students. There are many other great student organizations at UL. If Greeks want to boycott their fellow student athletes then so be it but it’s not right. Let the other students and other organizations support our athletes. Geaux Cajuns!
The U has almost accomplished its goal. I remember when the greeks had their signs painted permanently on the student side wall. That is until the U kicked them out to the hill and made the wall a hall of fame wall. Then they kicked them off the hill and made it kid zone. Now they just want the greeks gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
Ima former Greek and I understand, but it is what it is with the times. The constant _____ing and moaning doesn’t help. adapt. If you can’t change and adapt then you fall behind and miss out on things.Quote:
Originally Posted by CockyCajun
You think this country is what it was 20 years ago? NO!
You know what does help? 90% of your student population never setting foot in Cajun Field after the initial largest freshmen class photo op. Great job admins!Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
So how can we change that? What are you going to do?Quote:
Originally Posted by zeppelincajun
What do you think we should do? You are ridiculing our students who are vocal saying they are _____ing and moaning. What about the other 16,500 who have silently not been showing up for their classmates? You say we should listen to their voice. Why aren’t you listening? They are using it even if you don’t hear it. Why isn’t the university changing and adapting?Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
Maggard complained in an interview a few weeks back about our “negative” fans claiming they were doing more harm than good. That’s shortsighted. He is talking about the few people left who care enough to even bother. The rest of this community is checked out and on to other things. Why are they checked out? Does it have to do with us hiring an unqualified coach, zero promoting, ticketing issues, gameday operations failures, etc etc? Nope. It’s those pesky negative fans. You are basically throwing out the student version of this argument and it’s weak and tired.
Glad you care. That is a start!Quote:
Originally Posted by zeppelincajun
The point of my posts is to not boycott the senior students on senior day which is what this thread seems to be wanting to do over some stupid ass Greek situation.
Do we really like the HC hire? No! But we know he is here for at least one more year so let’s as fans do what we can to support these players. Maybe Des figures it out in year 3. Maybe we get to a Bowl and win it?
Trust me you do not want to be like it was in my college years during the Baldwin Era. You couldn’t even smell a bowl much less a winning season!
Support your university!
1. We have to stop self imposing a tether to the Baldwin era. It’s not fair to our current student athletes and fanbase to look at “bowl eligibility” seasons and say, “wow. We would have killed for this 20+ years ago” and act like that’s good enough. It’s not. The standard has been raised since then. We have people donating to RCAF, and they are being told those donations are an investment. Bowl eligibility was something to be excited about in 2005. It’s 2023. In your words, let’s change and adapt. Let’s recognize our new standard and let that be our metric of success.Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
2. “Support your university.” I do. I buy season tickets. I give what I can to RCAF. However, this is NOT the pitch we should be making to the community. That implies this is a charity and people should attend/give out of the goodness of their hearts and because it’s the “right” thing to do. While we may have a few thousand left who do for that reason, it is no way to grow our BUSINESS. I’ll say it again: this is a business. Not a charity. Let’s act like it. Which brings me to point 3.
3. Let’s run this thing like a business. You want to tell 18-21 year olds to change and adapt to the times? How about decision makers at this university? We are still using setups and pricing models for tailgating that were enacted in the Hud era. We are still acting like there is demand for the entire Cajun Field parking lot to be an RCAF lot despite the RCAF steadily scraping by at 2,000 members. If you run a business and you have 6 of your 30 tables seated and a customer complains that their dish is undercooked, do you scold them and tell them they are the reason your restaurant is empty? Why are we hellbent on turning away the few people left with an interest? Great student crowd to start last season and we corralled them in 2 sections and lined the sections with security like a pen. Closing game against Georgia Southern I took a pic of a security guard standing immediately behind the couple students we had on the rail just waiting to jump them for saying the wrong thing. What BUSINESS operates this way? None. It’s embarrassing.
I’m not saying one way or the other if students should boycott. If they think it’s in their best interest, so be it. This university is not acting in the best interest of what little it has left in terms of athletic support. I’ll most likely never stop, but it’s exhausting to keep propping this thing up because “it’s the right thing to do” when the people who are actually in charge wanna cut the legs out anyway.
The gestures and optics of the university for all things related to everything athletics (mostly football) have been documented and discussed on the board at length. We all get it. I’m sour too.
But taking it back to the start of this thread. Let’s get some questions answered. What happened in this instance with the Greek organizations in question? Specifically?
We are more alike than you think. Ima RCAF, Krewe Allons, alumni donor.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeppelincajun
Keep up the enthusiasm!
Cause I won’t stop until I die for Ragin’ Cajuns athletics !
The expectation was set when we won the SBC championship in in 2020 and 2021. We cannot go back. Agree on that!
Follow the model Utah usesQuote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
MUSS
The Greeks represent a small percentage of the student population, but are the majority of students who actually attend games. They also set the tone for how rowdy and into the game the entire crowd is.Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
But yeah, let’s keep trying to marginalize the purpose of Greek organizations on campus.
All students are welcomed. But when it come to athletics support mainly at football and basket ball 80% are Greek. So, what does it say for your student body as a whole when 10 to 15 percent of the whole enrollment makes up 80% of your supporters?Quote:
Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns
Some top notch "best in class" posts are in this thread...well done gentlemen...