The Book CC Track & Field 2006-07

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Originally Posted by VObserver

In a 10 year span at a class A high school, this coach produced 3 HS All-America javelin throwers [all 200'+ throwers], two state champion triple jumpers [one of whom was a composite state record holder], two state champion long jumpers, four state hurdles champions, two pole vault state champions, a high jump state champion and nearly 20 other D1 track athletes. At other schools, he has produced many more throwers, jumpers and hurdlers who have gone on to compete collegiately.

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Who is this guy? I'm not sure I know who you're talking about...

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Originally Posted by spearchucker

Who is this guy? I'm not sure I know who you're talking about... _

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Check your private messages.

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Originally Posted by VObserver

_ Until you fix the total lack of a throws coach, which can only be addressed by University Money, not booster money, you are p*ssing into the wind. Throwers we used to routinely get here are now going to Northwestern, Nicholls, SLU and McNeese, NOT because we don't recruit them, but because they KNOW we have no one to coach them when they get here, and all those schools have decent to outstanding throws coaches.

I don't know the new jumps coach. Well, I know her, but don't know anything about her as a coach. I do know that the women who scored were good enought to score before she got here, so I'm not giving her credit for developing them, though I will give her credit for keeping them motivated.

None of the other programs you mentioned are paying assistants with booster money. That money goes to travel and equipment.

Oh, and if you expect me to believe you are knowlegable about UL track, at least spell Coach Lancon's name right. _

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Throws? Excuse me, but no UL track team ever made it to any NCAA meet in throwing events. Kinda like the worse part of track is FIELD. ARHHHH!

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Originally Posted by NewsCopy

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Nice article for an athlete who is jumping ship and transferring to a Texas school. He's seen enough of the tight discipline, exceptional workouts teaching running strategy and increased chances for breaking 10-flat in the 100-meters. Good ridance. Northside has yet to produce anyone of merit in track & field. Perhaps the Texas school can break that string. the best of luck to the 2nd smart`(The 1st quit and went to LSU 2 years ago when he saw the writing on the wall.) Now we see chapter two of the saga.

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Originally Posted by cajuntrack

_ <p align=justify>I have to say as a current UL track athlete, we did better competing this year at conference. We may have gotten last AGAIN but we did have some people qualify for regionals, which we are very proud of. We scored more points than last year and I know that is not good enough but we did try. We want to do better and I think we improved. Maybe not to some peoples standards but we improved on individual standards. We improved on our own abilities and we also improved our interaction with each other as a team. To be honest, we were a TEAM this year. We cheered each other on and ACTED as a TEAM and that was something that we wanted to change and honestly something that we needed. WE as a TEAM accomplished that. In the past years, we haven't smiled at conference but this year there were many smiles. We were so happy for each other and what we all had accomplished. Coming out last did not make us smile but in the end, it really did not matter b/c we were a team for once. We may have come out last but we came out first within each other and excelled at our own personal standards.

We have had a lot of people on our team who have struggled and fallen, but they got back up and fought. For instance, we had a guy run the 10,000 who has been dealing with a stress fracture in his foot for a while now and he pushed it in conference to do well. That is heart! Also, on the sprinter side we had Stacy Fuller who came down with a hamstring injury during the season and GOT BACK UP and qualified for Regionals. He is an amazing athlete with great potential and he will do very well in his college career. He is an inspiration to our team. Also on the sprinter side is _____ ____ who has dealt with many injuries. She is pretty much the most stubborn but has much heart in what she does. She has been dealing with an injured foot due to multiple stress fractures for the past 3 months. That injury did not stop her because throughout the last 3 months she has improved her time. She ran the 400m in conference but during the race her foot gave out but she finished the race. That is heart! She was supposed to anchor the 4x4 too and usually she is the alternate that steps up for the team when something goes wrong. She is always there and willing. That is heart! Kayla Vice, on the other hand, won conference in the pole vault. She has overcome a torn ACL and a sprained ankle and this is all in 2 years. When she messed up her ankle last year, there was a chance she wasn't going to be able to pole vault ever again. Well, she proved that wrong and came back strong and healthy for conference and unbelievably won! Her heart is so big and her goal was to win. She overcame everything and accomplished what she wanted. A gold medal! Luke Moody, after struggling from his injury last year, decreased his time every meet and finished out his last outdoor season like he wanted. He has dealt with a lot and he has GOTTEN UP. He has one of the biggest hearts on our team. He has not missed one practice and by that shows. That’s heart! Roderick Houston, he has a hamstring problem and has been dealing with it for some time. He ran is butt off in the 4x1 relay and he played a huge role in the reason why they are going to regionals. He always said they were going to regionals and he was confident in doing so. He still has the injury too. I can keep going but we ALL have heart.

Of all the things that are posted on this site, they have made us stronger as a team. We appreciate that people care so much about our program and we hope you continue to do so. Until next year, we hope we can make our fans happier. This is only the beginning! _

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I commend those who havd headed in the right direction and I have compassion for those who have not had the great collegiate expereince that those before you expereinced. If yo look at the record books, UL track was all the things you mention going back to the 1970's and maybe before. For more than 30 years, UL track was all the things you mention until coach lascon died. Sinxe then, it's been straight downhill with excuses made for those at fault. If you are an athlete at UL then you know it is more than money. A lack of discipline and organization are the first two things that stick out. When people don't go to to practice, fail to complete workouts, fail to make it to meets, bickering with one another, fail to compete and complete events entered, smart off to everyone in sight, and coaches do nothing about it, therein lies the problem. Nice guys finish last and so has UL for four years. Time for across the board changes. Stay tuned, good news is about to come your way and the way of a couple of hundred alums who have seen the fruits of their labor crumble to nothing in the past four years.

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Originally Posted by VObserver

_ The only HS coach in this area that I would consider hiring works in Iberia parish. Now, that doesn't mean that he is the only one qualified, as it is entirely possible that some others DO exist in Lafayette parish or elsewhere that I don't know about; but none have had the level of success that this one has had, particularly with 'technique event' athletes [hurdles, vault, javelin, discus, triple jump, and to a lesser extent high jump, shot and relays]; and it is my honest opinion [shared by MANY knowledgable track professionals] that those events are where conference meets are won or lost.

In a 10 year span at a class A high school, this coach produced 3 HS All-America javelin throwers [all 200'+ throwers], two state champion triple jumpers [one of whom was a composite state record holder], two state champion long jumpers, four state hurdles champions, two pole vault state champions, a high jump state champion and nearly 20 other D1 track athletes. At other schools, he has produced many more throwers, jumpers and hurdlers who have gone on to compete collegiately.

If this particular guy applied, and I was in charge of hiring, I might even consider him for the HC position.

All that being said, being a track coach, even an assistant, at the D1 level requires much more work than being a track coach in HS. If it is to be done right, it must be done with full-time coaches. I am not AGAINST what you are saying, I am only saying that we should do that only as a last resort if the U can't or won't furnish the $$$ necessary to do it right. We have gone the $9K part time route before, and unless you have a Charles Lancon at the helm it doesn't work.

And there just ain't that many Charles Lancon's. _

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You are right. In fact, there are none. All the more reason not to even consider a HS coach. Only a coach with recruiting ties to some JC's to kick start it and then to get atheltes with strong work ethics, size and more than 5th place in a class A Lousiana State Meet.

With all due respect, Iberia Parish has no one that this school should be considering, unless we want next to last place instead of last. All the Iberai coach has done is squeeze everyhitng form these kids in HS. How many have gone to an NCAA? THAT is the REAL measure.

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Originally Posted by VObserver

_ I would like to see all three of those in the Cajun fold. I know it won't happen, but I would like to see it. Silve is one of the best track coaches ever at any level, and the other two guys are also proven, successful coaches.

I will say it again. We could have hired the best jumps coach in the country when Charles died, but the U refused to pay him his very modest salary request, and refused to give him enough money to hire good assistants. This time around, if indeed there is going to be a coaching change, we MUST be willing to put as much University money into coaching salaries for track as we currently spend on the entire track budget. That would let us about double the head coach pay, and give us enough to pay maybe $30K each for three assistants [you need four coaches: sprints/hurdles, distance, jumps, throws]. Maybe, just maybe, the recent actions by the UL system and the State to allow schools to spend about double what was previously allowed of State money on athletics, will allow us to do this.

As for re-naming the facility; don't hold your breath. I understand there are political considerations at work that are holding that up. _

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I thought you knew a lot about UL track.. If you did, you'd know ther naming thing is a done deal. The only reminaing problem is getting folks like yourself used to pronouncing the word C-O-L-E before the word L-A-S-C-O-N):D :D

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Originally Posted by houndoggy1

_ I thought you knew a lot about UL track.. If you did, you'd know ther naming thing is a done deal. The only reminaing problem is getting folks like yourself used to pronouncing the word C-O-L-E before the word L-A-S-C-O-N):D :D _

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I know how to spell Cole. I even know who Bob Cole is. I also don't have a problem putting his name somewhere in there.

As for the rest of the garbage you spout, No one on this board has been talking about winning an NCAA championship, or sending people to the NCAA's. We have been talking about winning the conference. And without throws, we would never have won a conference meet. Not even when your hero Cole was here. We have scored a few points on the track in some years, but whether you like it or not, our championships have been won by folks who jumped somewhere or threw something.

Also, unless you happen to be psychic you don't even know who I was talking about in Iberia Parish. In any event, there are other considerations there which preclude his being hired [or applying for that matter]. Oh, and that was 10 consecutive years of no worse than 5th, 8 of which were 3rd or better, including a Championship.. He was also HC at a 4A school that was state runner-up twice, and at a Mississippi school which won a state title there.

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Originally Posted by cajuntrack

<p align=justify>I have to say as a current UL track athlete, we did better competing this year at conference. We may have gotten last AGAIN but ........... we were a TEAM this year. ..........ACTED as a TEAM .................but we ALL have heart. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

Until next year, we hope we can make our fans happier. This is only the beginning!

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I RECEIVED THIS IN MY PM BOX SHORTLY AFTER MY SECOND POST TODAY AND THUS HAD TO DELETE WHAT I SAID EARLIER. I DON'T KNOW WHY I WASTE MY TIME, I JUST GET ____ED I GUESS. I KNOW NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. THIS IS THE MESSAGE I GOT IN MY PM BOX............

"Defamation is "the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation." Louisiana is a jurisdiction thaqt does not tolerate such behavior and pushes its courts to deal liberally with this behavior.

The common law origins of defamation lie in the torts of slander (harmful statement in a transitory form, especially speech) and libel (harmful statement in a fixed medium, especially writing but also a picture, sign, or electronic broadcast), each of which gives a common law right of action.

The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, internet postings, and the like, then it is considered libel.

The purpose of my message is to advise that your remarks regarding _____ ____ are deemed defamatory and make you subject to possible civil penalties imposed by juries when unable to support your comments with fact.

That being said, you are requested to retract your comments, and cause any copies of your remarks by other parties to likewise be removed.

By entering this website, you have mistakenly assumed that your identity is hidden. By refusing to retract your remarks publically, exposure of your identity will most certainly be forthcoming and appropriate civil action taken.

You shoule know that there is no defense when such utterances or written remarks are false.

Please act now to correct this careless act on your part. If you have any questions regarding Louisiana civil statutes, please direct your email to me at AcadianaLaw@lawyer.com , attention: Bennett C. Lyle"

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Originally Posted by houndoggy1

_ Throws? Excuse me, but no UL track team ever made it to any NCAA meet in throwing events. Kinda like the worse part of track is FIELD. ARHHHH! _

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Wrong. I went there twice in the 90's in the javelin throw. Eugene OR and Austin TX

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Originally Posted by cajun4ever

_ Wrong. I went there twice in the 90's in the javelin throw. Eugene OR and Austin TX _

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4, houndoggy is just an a**hat with an agenda. He has no clue about how to actually win a conference meet, nor does he know anything about the history of the program. He THINKS he does, of course, but that's another story.

okay so you want to bash _____ ____, well I have known her for a very long time to know that her injuries date back to high school. for one, she has exercised enduced asthma. which means when it is cold, rainy with humidity, or when the grass is freshly cut, she has an attack. (how can you hold that against somebody?) 2. she has a missing L-5 in her back which she strained her sophomore year here which is the reason why she has quad/hamstring problems. 3. she has 3 stress fractures in her left foot and that is why she was on crutches. ( she wanted to try the intermediate hurdles and coach veazey allowed her. coming down on her left foot after jumping over the hurdles 3 months ago is the reason for her injury) i was with her in the training room when she got her MRI results from the trainers. oh and by the way, SHE DOES GO TO THE TRAINING ROOM EVERYDAY! her shoulder injury...she never had an injury...she slept on it wrong. i remember b/c she slept at my house. just stop talking about her. she did nothing to you.

another things, you are right about all the drama on the team. i was there when those things were said with the confrontation b/w the two athletes. what i meant was that we were more of a team with eachother. we were getting along more and were caring more how everyone did in competition. we have problems. it is apparent. we know.

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Originally Posted by cajuntrack

okay so you want to bash _____ ____, well I have known her for a very long time to know that her injuries date back to high school. for one, she has exercised enduced asthma. which means when it is cold, rainy with humidity, or when the grass is freshly cut, she has an attack. (how can you hold that against somebody?) 2. she has a missing L-5 in her back which she strained her sophomore year here which is the reason why she has quad/hamstring problems. 3. she has 3 stress fractures in her left foot and that is why she was on crutches. ( she wanted to try the intermediate hurdles and coach veazey allowed her. coming down on her left foot after jumping over the hurdles 3 months ago is the reason for her injury) i was with her in the training room when she got her MRI results from the trainers. oh and by the way, SHE DOES GO TO THE TRAINING ROOM EVERYDAY! her shoulder injury...she never had an injury...she slept on it wrong. i remember b/c she slept at my house. just stop talking about her. she did nothing to you.

another things, you are right about all the drama on the team. i was there when those things were said with the confrontation b/w the two athletes. what i meant was that we were more of a team with eachother. we were getting along more and were caring more how everyone did in competition. we have problems. it is apparent. we know.

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****I had to delete the first part of my post (see top of page)*********

NOW, I'll tell you the kind of people I have respect for. I have 2 great examples. First is Luke Moody. For those of you that do not know Luke broke his leg (a clean break right through the skin) while high jumping at the indoor conference meet in 2006. Luke then had a metal rod placed in his leg and about 12 weeks later he began walking. Shortly after this Luke was trying to regain his fitness on the bike and in the pool. Luke trained his butt off. Luke did NOT look for excuses (he has a dang rod in his leg for Christ sake!). Instead, Luke looked for a reason to GET BETTER, the exact opposite of what most people, (can't mention name) included, do. Luke has had an impressive outdoor season this year after breaking his leg just over one year ago. Luke is one of the hardest working athletes out there. He is one of the first to show up, and almost always the last one to leave!

Secondly is Kayla Vice. Kayla signed her letter of intent at UL going into her senior year of high school track season. The week of her district meet Kayla tore her ACL while pole vaulting, which of course ended her season. Kayla had surgery just after tearing her ACL and began recovery. She wanted to prove that she is a great athlete. Then, during her freshman year at UL, Kayla was forced to undergo a SECOND surgery to repair her ACL. There were complications after the first surgery. Kayla trained her butt off and looked for a reason to excel. After months of rehab and months of non-stop pole vaulting, AND LESS THAN ONE YEAR after her SECOND ACL surgery, Kayla Vice WON the Sun Belt Conference Championship in the pole vault. With all of the odds against her, Kayla persevered and looked for a reason to keep going. She did not look for a reason to drop out of her workout.


HERE IS A POEM that my coach gave me in high school. I try to live by the words of this poem and I think it would be good for you to read it. It's called "NO EXCUSES".

Any excuse for non-performance, however valid, softens the character. It is a sedative against one's own conscience. When a man uses an excuse, he attempts to convince both himself and others that unsatisfactory performance is somehow acceptable. He is - perhaps unconsciously - attempting to divert attention from perfomance; the only thing that counts is his own want for sympathy. The user is dishonest with himself as well as others. No matter how good or how valid, the excuse never changes the performance.
The world measures success in terms of performance alone. No man is remembered in history for what he would have accomplished. History never ask how hard it was to do the job, nor considers the obstacles that had to be overcome. It never measures the handicaps. It counts only one thing - PERFORMANCE. No man ever performend a worthwile task without consciously ignoring many a plausible excuse.
To use an excuse is a habit. We cannot have both the performance habit and the excuse habit. We all have a supply of excuses. The more we usue them the lower become our standards, the poorer our performance. The better we perform, the less plausible our excuses become.
Next time you want to defend you sub-par performance, say instead (at least to yourself) NO EXCUSES!!!

THE END

Joel I appreciate your candor but I wish you had stuck to this statement a little more.

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Originally Posted by JoelJP45

First of all, I would like to say that I am in NO WAY putting down any current UL track and field athletes

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Originally Posted by houndoggy1

_ Nice article for an athlete who is jumping ship and transferring to a Texas school. He's seen enough of the tight discipline, exceptional workouts teaching running strategy and increased chances for breaking 10-flat in the 100-meters. Good ridance. Northside has yet to produce anyone of merit in track & field. Perhaps the Texas school can break that string. the best of luck to the 2nd smart`(The 1st quit and went to LSU 2 years ago when he saw the writing on the wall.) Now we see chapter two of the saga. _

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So, that make 4 people that are leaving the UL team? 3 distance runners and 1 sprinter? I wonder how many others will end up leaving, the next few weeks should be telling.

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Well it is R M "Bob" Cole ----VOB did this coach once teach at VC?????

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Originally Posted by DaddyCajun

_ I do not know a whole bunch about the current track and field but I can say that a few years back I initiated pressure washing the stadium! I went to the head coach after we finished the baseball pressure washing and painting. Gerald then got involved and painting of the restrooms, concessions, floors painted and tiled, offices refurbished, UL logos placed on concrete and stadium walls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I certainly enjoyed getting involved and I feel more of us need to do the same. I am sure we could do some sort of cook off/boiled crawfish/crabs and a bike-a-thon that could raise some monies this SUMMER!!

Hey if we raise $5,000 this Summer for whatever the coaches need that would be a great place to start.

Emails to send invitations
Early morning news, news paper, and radio shows to advertise more....
Sponsors at $250 a piece with each person getting involved raising $1000.....how much could be raised....????
T-Shirts could be made up ......... Cajun Summer Trek '07!!!

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And I bet the coach was in the trenches washing with you? Yeah, right! Or was he too busy riding around in his Mercedes?

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&nbsp; Lance Veazey, UL's track and field coach the past five seasons, tendered his resignation earlier this week and will be accepting an athletic director position at a private secondary school in Houston.

Veazey's resignation is effective June 30, ending a tenure during which the Ragin' Cajuns won one Sun Belt Conference cross country title and was league runner-up once both indoors and outdoors. However, the UL program has struggled in recent years, finishing at the bottom in the Sun Belt outdoor championships in each of the past two seasons.

"It's been difficult at times," Veazey said. "It seemed like there was one thing after another with everything that's happened. We went through two seasons when the track was under construction and then the problems with the hurricanes. It's been very challenging times to say the least."

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The university has not officially announced Veazey's resignation, but UL interim athletic director David Walker said that the department will likely act quickly to fill the position since less than two months remain before the beginning of the fall semester.

Veazey will become athletic director at Emory Weiner Upper School, a private grades 6-12 school in Houston, effective Aug. 1. "It's a new challenge," Veazey said, "with coaches to hire and people to put in place before August."

Veazey's tenure as UL's head coach began under tragedy, when long-time Cajun mentor Charles Lancon died of a heart attack on April 13, 2002. Veazey had served as an assistant under Lancon for five seasons in his second stint on the Cajun staff, having served as a student assistant until his graduation in 1992.

The program was hit by more tragedy in Veazey's early years with the untimely deaths of athletes John Melvin and Ben Rodgers.

"All of that, and coming after coach Lancon, it was very difficult," Veazey said. "We had some success, but I do think that this will let some new life breathe into the program, allow them to go another direction and give them the opportunity to be successful."

Veazey helped UL dominate both the American South and Sun Belt Conferences in track as an assistant. UL's men and women both won indoor and outdoor titles in the final year of his first stint in 1993, and after coaching at Blinn College, Texas, and Southeastern La. he returned in 1997 and helped UL win its eighth straight conference outdoor title in 1998.

UL won the 2004 Sun Belt cross country title after finishing second in both the league men's indoor and outdoor meets that spring. The Cajuns, though, were last of 10 teams outdoors in both men's and women's competition in 2006 and recently finished ninth of 10 men's teams and 11th of 11 women's teams in the 2007 Sun Belt outdoor meet at Cajun Track.

"It was strictly my decision," Veazey said. "Mr. Walker and all the administrators have been very supportive, and Mr. Walker and I sat and talked about what's the best plan for the program. He's asked for a lot of my input on where we should go and I totally respect that."

Among possible candidates for the job are former UL and LSU assistant Boo Schexnayder, now in private business; former Blinn College and current Texas Tech assistant Steve Silvey, holder of 15 national titles while at Blinn; and New Iberia product and former Cajun pole vaulter Lon Badeaux, currently an assistant at Arkansas State.



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Good luck to Coach Veazey. It was a pleasure running under him, Coach Lancon, and Coach Lemaire.

Veazey was a nice guy(coach), but I feel that I am not alone in that it was time for a change! We need a more energy filled coach willing to do MORE fund raising and MORE aggressive recruiting, especially in the Acadiana area!!


Good luck to coach Veazey,
Exciting times are ahead for Louisiana Track and Field,
Hollis Conway are you a canidate or can you and the like be involved in the search.
DaddyCajun

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Originally Posted by DaddyCajun

_ Veazey was a nice guy(coach), but I feel that I am not alone in that it was time for a change! We need a more energy filled coach willing to do MORE fund raising and MORE aggressive recruiting, especially in the Acadiana area!!


Good luck to coach Veazey,
Exciting times are ahead for Louisiana Track and Field,
Hollis Conway are you a canidate or can you and the like be involved in the search.
DaddyCajun _

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More fundraising? Coach Veazey had more to do than Lancon. Let's just say, he wasn't put on a level playing field and had alot stacked against him.

DaddyCaj:

E-mail me at njbouterie@hotmail.com if you want more info. But let's just say, the statement that Coach Veazey should have done more to raise money is extremely easy to make if you don't know everything that was going on.

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

_ More fundraising? Coach Veazey had more to do than Lancon. Let's just say, he wasn't put on a level playing field and had alot stacked against him.

DaddyCaj:

E-mail me at njbouterie@hotmail.com if you want more info. But let's just say, the statement that Coach Veazey should have done more to raise money is extremely easy to make if you don't know everything that was going on. _

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Email in route, hope I can help!

DaddyCajun

Joel, Your open bashing remarks are the perpetual cancers that have plagued this program for the past four years and those which Silve despises in his program. Strap it on and get ready to defend your remarks. He has seen them, and has learned who you are and he is NOT a happy person. What a sordid first impression you have provided!