If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Printable View

Show 25 post(s) from this thread on one page

February 22nd, 2023, 01:47 pm
Turbine

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by BabbForHeisman

Once you’re in, you’re in…unfortunately. Sucks for those on the outside.

At some point those once on the outside created a paradigm shift for those on the inside.

It will take a quality salesman, and he and his group would be wise to include recruiting footprint.

Selling Louisiana's footprint as the most desirable thing on earth.
February 22nd, 2023, 02:29 pm
CajunNation

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbine

...Selling Louisiana's footprint as the most desirable thing on earth.

Yes.

The Big-12 needs a place to pee in the sec's backyard. UCF helped, but aside from that, we are the next best public school in that footprint. They'll either go Tulane or us.
February 22nd, 2023, 02:39 pm
JamesTheJeweler

1 Attachment(s)

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by angeleast

T slow aka ( T joe), Ray Jr, and his cronies. The fossil is smiling in the afterlife.

What up fam?
February 22nd, 2023, 02:45 pm
ZoomZoom

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunNation

Yes.

The Big-12 needs a place to pee in the sec's backyard. UCF helped, but aside from that, we are the next best public school in that footprint. They'll either go Tulane or us.

Today, Tulane has a major airport. That’s the deal maker.

I won’t belabor what we need just to have a chance.
February 22nd, 2023, 03:13 pm
Turbine

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Today, Tulane has a major airport. That’s the deal maker.

I won’t belabor what we need just to have a chance.

Can’t charter flights go direct? Thus alleviating the advantage of a major airport?
February 22nd, 2023, 03:17 pm
MelRock

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbine

Can’t charter flights go direct? Thus alleviating the advantage of a major airport?

Correct, most teams that charter do not fly into the major airports.
February 22nd, 2023, 03:18 pm
HoustonCajun

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

This. And regardless of anything else, University Presidents have to vote you into their club. If you don't have relationships built and you don't have the academic prestige, you're not getting in. We have a much better shot with R1 designation, but we really need Med and Law (IMO) to be seriously considered by Big 12 Presidents.

That's UL's catch 22. We won't play these schools unless we get a 1 for 1, so we don't play them. But, by not playing them, we don't build relationships and they never visit our campus and see our facilities. At some point, you need to schedule 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1 or never get have a shot at anything, which is where we are now.
February 22nd, 2023, 03:22 pm
ManAboutTown

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

That's UL's catch 22. We won't play these schools unless we get a 1 for 1, so we don't play them. But, by not playing them, we don't build relationships and they never visit our campus and see our facilities. At some point, you need to schedule 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1 or never get have a shot at anything, which is where we are now.

Agree a million percent. This is my biggest disagreement with our AD.
February 22nd, 2023, 04:15 pm
CajunNation

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

That's UL's catch 22. We won't play these schools unless we get a 1 for 1, so we don't play them. But, by not playing them, we don't build relationships and they never visit our campus and see our facilities. At some point, you need to schedule 2 for 1 or even 3 for 1 or never get have a shot at anything, which is where we are now.

But, but, but, but, but we HAVE TO have 6 home games, or the World will end. If we don't schedule "insert MAC school here", we will be guaranteed a losing season, kill season ticket sales and be the laughingstock of all serious people.

Good God, man. Are you crazy?
February 23rd, 2023, 10:46 am
CajunEXPRESS

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Buds

Why exactly? They are awful in athletics. Plus they are a private school. From a culture standpoint not an ideal rival.

Geography. They’re the opportunity and footprint into Houston metroplex. I’d take Rice over TxSt seven days a week and twice on Sunday not to mention losing the Hoax.
February 23rd, 2023, 11:08 am
cajun_lannister

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

Geography. They’re the opportunity and footprint into Houston metroplex. I’d take Rice over TxSt seven days a week and twice on Sunday not to mention losing the Hoax.

I would take UTSA over both
February 23rd, 2023, 11:22 am
CajunNation

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajun_lannister

I would take UTSA over both

AAC West plus 2 more.

UTSA
Rice
North Texas
SMU
Tulsa
Wichita State
Memphis
Southern Miss
Tulane
Louisiana

The only possible conference lineup better for us would be a P5 league.

Turning down an invite to AAC West would be one of the worst decisions in the history of this school.
February 23rd, 2023, 12:53 pm
SlickRick

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunNation

AAC West plus 2 more.

UTSA
Rice
North Texas
SMU
Tulsa
Wichita State
Memphis
Southern Miss
Tulane
Louisiana

The only possible conference lineup better for us would be a P5 league.

Turning down an invite to AAC West would be one of the worst decisions in the history of this school.

Uhhh...that would be sweet!
February 23rd, 2023, 02:08 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by CajunNation

AAC West plus 2 more.

UTSA
Rice
North Texas
SMU
Tulsa
Wichita State
Memphis
Southern Miss
Tulane
Louisiana

The only possible conference lineup better for us would be a P5 league.

Turning down an invite to AAC West would be one of the worst decisions in the history of this school.

Again, SMU is leaving. Word is Tulsa is trying to get into the MW and Rice and Tulane are potential PAC targets because Arizona, Arizona St., Colorado & Utah will eventually be I the Big 12. Oregon, Washington and Stanford will likely get into the B1G so that leaves Oregon State, Washington State and Cal in the PAC along with some G5 AAU schools. The PAC and MW will then merge to a certain degree. This will all happen in the next 10 years.

Accepting an invitation to AAC would be the worst decision in the history of the school and EXTREMELY short sighted! The SBC is seriously in a position of power in the G5…stay the course!
February 23rd, 2023, 02:15 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickRick

Uhhh...that would be sweet!

That division will look nothing like that in 10 years.
February 23rd, 2023, 03:43 pm
SlickRick

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Buds

That division will look nothing like that in 10 years.

OK...but I wasn't wearing my into future decade sunglasses....just if this was our conference today.
February 23rd, 2023, 03:59 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickRick

OK...but I wasn't wearing my into future decade sunglasses....just if this was our conference today.

Dude, these sunglasses are hella sweet too! All good.
February 23rd, 2023, 04:30 pm
cajunfan96

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Buds

Dude, these sunglasses are hella sweet too! All good.

https://hookemheadlines.com/2021/07/...e-expansion/2/

Old article, but good one.
Cannot wait for the phone to ring!
The iron was hot and we sat on our ARSE! We are more worried about what bathroom everyone uses.
February 23rd, 2023, 04:38 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunfan96

https://hookemheadlines.com/2021/07/...e-expansion/2/

Old article, but good one.
Cannot wait for the phone to ring!
The iron was hot and we sat on our ARSE! We are more worried about what bathroom everyone uses.

Well, the 4 teams they added were ahead of us on the list. Now, knocking off Texas would have helped but the door is not completely shut. My worry is the Big12 will move west and add Arizona, Arizona St., Colorado and Utah. That will basically kill the PAC and improve their brand.
February 23rd, 2023, 05:50 pm
cajunfan96

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Buds

Well, the 4 teams they added were ahead of us on the list. Now, knocking off Texas would have helped but the door is not completely shut. My worry is the Big12 will move west and add Arizona, Arizona St., Colorado and Utah. That will basically kill the PAC and improve their brand.

That would be one hell of a trip from Arizona to W Virginia!
February 23rd, 2023, 05:54 pm
Turbine

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Buds

Well, the 4 teams they added were ahead of us on the list...

... and that's with Louisiana fans and administration virtually shouting from the rooftops "we're not worthy" while those other schools simply said, "why not us!"
February 23rd, 2023, 06:16 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbine

... and that's with Louisiana fans and administration virtually shouting from the rooftops "we're not worthy" while those other schools simply said, "why not us!"

100% facts! Definitely not disputing that.
February 23rd, 2023, 06:18 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunfan96

That would be one hell of a trip from Arizona to W Virginia!

That will be the new super conference geography. Outside of the SEC, which will no doubt take the best brands from the ACC, you will see cross country Conference foes.
February 23rd, 2023, 07:04 pm
HoustonCajun

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Buds

That will be the new super conference geography. Outside of the SEC, which will no doubt take the best brands from the ACC, you will see cross country Conference foes.

If you want to move up to a P5 conference, you do so in incremental steps like TCU did. UL needs to be a part of the AAC if it ever hopes to move to a P5 conference. The SBC, CUSA and MAC are the bottom dwellers of 1A football, whether we like it or not. The AAC and the MWC have the perception that the SBC will never achieve as historically it was the worse conference for years. It is certainly much better now, but no team will move from it directly to a P5 conference, like the AAC and soon the MWC. The AAC has established itself as the top G5 conference. Even after losing UH, Cincy and UCF, its perception remains. Move to the AAC or forever be relegated to the SBC. Unfortunately, I think Dr. Savioe is satisfied with the status quo athletically and has no ambitions to move up and let athletics match academics. Too bad, because now is the time that we can finally do that.

TCU was a founding member of the Southwest Conference and was a member of the Western Athletic Conference, Conference USA, and the Mountain West Conference before joining the Big 12.
February 23rd, 2023, 08:49 pm
Big Buds

Re: If SMU Is Invited to Pac 12 . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoustonCajun

If you want to move up to a P5 conference, you do so in incremental steps like TCU did. UL needs to be a part of the AAC if it ever hopes to move to a P5 conference. The SBC, CUSA and MAC are the bottom dwellers of 1A football, whether we like it or not. The AAC and the MWC have the perception that the SBC will never achieve as historically it was the worse conference for years. It is certainly much better now, but no team will move from it directly to a P5 conference, like the AAC and soon the MWC. The AAC has established itself as the top G5 conference. Even after losing UH, Cincy and UCF, its perception remains. Move to the AAC or forever be relegated to the SBC. Unfortunately, I think Dr. Savioe is satisfied with the status quo athletically and has no ambitions to move up and let athletics match academics. Too bad, because now is the time that we can finally do that.

TCU was a founding member of the Southwest Conference and was a member of the Western Athletic Conference, Conference USA, and the Mountain West Conference before joining the Big 12.

You couldn’t be more wrong when it comes to the future. Your thinking is archaic. The SBC is now perceived as a top G5 football conference. You realize ESPN is paying the new AAC members nearly the same payout as the SBC? I just don’t understand the obsession some here have with the new American. Once the contract is renegotiated with the AAC and ESPN in a few years, the old guard will be upset and you will see ECU join the SBC. You don’t realize how good of a situation we are in.

I’m willing to bet you $100 by 2034 the SBC will have more CFP participants than any other G5. That is a 10 year sample size.

Show 25 post(s) from this thread on one page