Express - good points. I might add the 5% are the cats that drive the train a big way towards those national championships. But some do bring a lot of baggage for the trip.
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Express - good points. I might add the 5% are the cats that drive the train a big way towards those national championships. But some do bring a lot of baggage for the trip.
67, I think you give those 5% way too much credit. The name that matters on that uniform is the big one across the front.
The reality is if these cats did not have a NCAA system driving their names they would be nobodies. We have a AAA baseball team in New Orleans, and I could not tell you the first person on that team. Now if there were a UL player maybe I could.
Bottom line if these young men do not like the way things are being done, set up their own minor league system, otherwise show up on Saturdays, honor the name on the front of the uniform, and count your blessings that tens of thousands of people who don't know you from the garbage man on another route donate money, and time for your benefit.
Lucroy gets it big time and so do lots of others.
My thoughts on Clowney...
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I know it's open for debate and therefore a topic for discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajunhawk
I was referring to your comment stating that "he is doing it the smart way".
This is not very smart on his part. If he would have been so called "smart" he would have at least told the coaches that he wasn't going to play way before kickoff; thus not creating such a big issue about why he wasn't playing in the first place.
I'm sure you would be fine with Marshawn Lynch and Russell Wilson not telling Pete Carroll that they weren't going to play right before game time :)
If he doesn't feel like he should be playing...it's his decision...not the coaches...not the TEAM PAID doctors or trainers. It was Spurrier who made it the issue in the first place by letting it out in the open air for the 24 hour media cycle to chew up and spit out...instead of making it a TEAM matter. So who here is the smart one? Certainly not Spurrier for making a mountain out of a mole hill.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAJUNJUDO
If Lynch or Wilson didn't feel like they could go...that is their decision. It happens all the time in the NFL cause these are grown ___ men, who play for a living. They know their bodies. Like Clowney did. Hate all you want on the kid for making HIS decision. If he would have suited up and really injured himself because he wasn't 100%...the coaches would not have apologized for forcing him to play. So it's OK to ride the horse until it's time to put him down with a shot to the back of the head, but it's not OK to let the horse decide if it can even make it down the track to begin with? That's the idiotic double standard that permeates college football. "He doesn't wanna play...what a punk...what a thug...I'd straighten his ___ out." So in this discussion...who are the smart ones? Sounds like Clowney is the only one making wise decisions.
Playing Devils advocate here, but maybe Clowney saw what happened to Marcus Lattimor and did not want a repeat. They are on the same team.Quote:
Originally Posted by duggie85
Very well could be the motivation behind his decision. Everybody knows the kid has nfl talent and will be drafted, now if it's #1 or not will be a different story. Clowney has a $5 million insurance policy in case he suffers a career ending injury. That amount is significantly less than what he would make by playing in the nfl. This is no different than Matt Barkley shutting it down last year at USC, when he suffered an "injury," the difference is USC did not play it out in the media.Quote:
Playing Devils advocate here, but maybe Clowney saw what happened to Marcus Lattimor and did not want a repeat. They are on the same team.
I personally don't blame the kid for looking out for his future. South Carolina has little to no chance to play for a national title now, so I can see where Clowney sees no point in putting his future in jeopardy.
Is he not getting a free education for playing football? Since when did college football become minor league football (tongue in cheek)? This is the problem with what college football has become. The free education is no longer worth anything to players. In all actuality, college football players are on an entitlement plan just like half of America. They are doing the equivalent of everyone sitting around cypress bayou on the 15th and 30th hoping to hit the jackpot after getting their gov't check. You say colleges use players, chew em up and spit em out. What about the money and resources that are wasted on college athletes who don't graduate? He is who he is because he played for a nationally ranked team and made the hit seen 'round the world because he was playing for South Carolina. That hit wouldn't have seen local news if he played for an NAIA team. If you don't like it, quit the team and do it on your own. If you want to be an SEC draft prospect, nut up and play.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajunhawk
At major programs, those players are generating way more money for the university than what his education cost. Heck S. Carolina increased their ticket prices this year solely because Clowney is on the team. Whether you like it or not, big time college football is "minor league football" and the players should be treated as such. I've had family members, friends, and even myself play collegiate athletics and when I tell you there were times when some of us couldn't even buy a new pair of jeans, I am not exaggerating. Until major college football does something to provide for its players that are generating enormous amounts of money for their institution, you will see this happening more and more. Trust me these schools need the players more than the player needs the school, if you are good enough the nfl will find you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRage
I am for a minimal stipend for players as long as amount has nothing to do with the success rate or stature of the university, but to act like they are not getting more perks than a normal student is idiotic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't athletes have jobs offered by the university? Tuition, books, food, athletic clothing, exposure are all things that normal students do not get without scholarships of their own. Your reward for playing at this university should be at a minimum, a college degree and maximum, an nfl contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by castsdan
I have said for years now that anyone on scholarship should have to pay back every penny they received if they do not graduate.