Hudspeth is making $190K at Miss St. I think he would come for $400K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oiler
Dana Holgorson might not since he is making $260K at Ok State.
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Hudspeth is making $190K at Miss St. I think he would come for $400K.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oiler
Dana Holgorson might not since he is making $260K at Ok State.
It isn't just that the SBC doesn't make coaches attractive, they generally don't hire attractive coaches for upward mobility. UL needs to get off that road and produce a coach we can't hang onto because he's just too successful with us. I call that a "luxurious problem".Quote:
Originally Posted by jjs9534
This wil be a perception changing hire.
For the first time in school history UL will hire a "Head Coach."
I hope UL does not go for a name coach just for the sake of going after a "name coach."
If he happens to be a name coach fine, but he must be a BIG winner at his last stop and very successful in his last stint as a head coach.
The big thing that wories me is David Walker likes to get stuck on stupid when it comes to hiring UL Alumni. Hiring alumni is fine IF they are qualified (head coach) but David Walker seems to treat it as a qualification.
Don't assume anything my man and don't believe everything you read. Any coach that contacts a university either directly or indirectly through a second party has some interest in the position. For all those that think Coaches are just concerned about salary, might want to consider the areas of future commitments in facilities and scheduling. All are important in considering this job. I can tell you this, there are some people interested in this head coaching position that would surprise the hell out of many. But that doesn't mean they would agree with the facility commitments and future scheduling to accept the position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just1More
I would love. To have Mike Shula, Tyrone Willingham, Mike Leach & Sly Croon. Ty Willingham & Leach would be my top choice. What do you thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by CajunT
igeaux.mobi
Holgorson got a raise. He's around 350 nowQuote:
Originally Posted by cajun4life
The numbers I used was his 2010 contract, but you are correct. It was recently reworked for to a 3 year deal for $360K matching Joe Deforest as the highest paid assistant on the OSU staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
I respectfully disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun4life
"Ty Willingham"
With this, I also respectfully disagree.
I think any coach that is interested should be given serious consideration. But the interest must be there for a discussion to take place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spydaman70507
We should be paying a minimum of $400K plus incentives for a good head coach. That would peak interest from these kind of candidates. I hope the RCAF can handle that, otherwise look for a low budget hire and we will get what we pay for. I don't think (hope) that won't happen this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun4life
Wrong. The only way to win long term is to start out with a low budget winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
igeaux.mobi
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Originally Posted by Turbine
I respectfully disagree. I think we need someone who understands what it takes to be a big time program and how we will get there. Hiring someone from another low budget program will only likely serve to perpetuate the low level of football we have always had here. It is not like Ohio State picking a 1AA coach from Youngstown State (Tressel). OSU had the money and the program in place to win. UL does not have either. Let's commit to doing this right for a change. I am tired of second class citizenry in sports.
And I respectfully disagree with the first part of your post. We tried the assistant from a big name program. A guy who came in here after coaching Mike Vick to an almost NC. I loved the hire of RB back then. But in retrospect I think those types of guys are used to big budgets and we present a shock to what they are used to. My preference would be a guy from a lower level program looking for his first HC job as a stepping stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
As to the commit part I agree. Paying $400k to get an up and comer is what we need to do and then continue the commitment to better facilities. I think we HAVE to show the candidates that we are serious about a first class mid major program
And I too am tired of second class citizenry......
For some reason I am getting optimistic that we are headed in the right direction finally
"And how we get there"Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
If the guy you propose has built a program I am with you .
igeaux.mobi
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Originally Posted by Turbine
To me, that points to someone like the Stephen F. Austin coach J.C. Harper. He appears to be the "Bob Marlin" of the names bandied about. http://sfajacks.cstv.com/sports/m-fo...rper_jc00.html
I want a coach who is a little hungry and will put in the effort to create a winning team.
We have tried the coordinator route from the big programs and that has not worked out as well as it should (Nelson Stokley was an exception prior to the budget cuts). In our case someone with success as a lower level head coach is exactly what we need as he will have similar resources to what he has now. As far as the X's and O's of the game, most would be shocked at how little difference there is in that regard between levels. It does not matter what you and I think about this. What matters is what the decision makers think and I can assure you the key players believe head coaching experience is a key criteria.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoustonCajun
Harper has shown the instincts it takes to be a successful head coach. He hand selected his current coordinators a couple of years ago which has directly led to the current domination they are showing in the SLC.Quote:
Originally Posted by California Cajun
For those of you who don't know, the O.C. at SFA is Shannon Dawson, a Hal Mumme disciple, and, YES, they throw the football with video-game type results.
I would say the odds are 60/40 that Harper and his crew will be in Cajun Field next season.
Interesting prediction.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
If you like the Bob Marlin selection, here's what J.C. Harper has accomplished at Stephen F. Austin and how few fans attended:
- 2007: 0-11 Attendance: 8480 average
- 2008: 4-8 Attendance: 8577 average
- 2009: 10-3 Attendance: 11111 average Conference Champions
- 2010 (5 out of 6 home games played): 8-2 Attendance: 9849 average
They are 4-1 in conference (5-1 if you count Lamar game, who will be in conference next year).
I counted 13 on the roster that looked like Jucos/transfers from 1-A programs.
That looks pretty good to me.
Pretty good? This is "pretty good" to me.
Let's count this coach's win at LAMAR as well, he is undefeated, 10-0; for the 2nd straight season, oh yeah, they have only had a football team for 2 seasons:
9/4/2010 Sat. Pikeville (Ky.) Mobile W 56-0
9/18/2010 Sat. Nicholls State Mobile W 39-21
9/25/2010 Sat. (1) vs. Edward Waters (Fla.) Dothan, Ala. W 64-0
10/2/2010 Sat. Kentucky Wesleyan Mobile W 52-3
10/9/2010 Sat. Missouri S&T (Parents' Weekend) Mobile W 45-6
10/16/2010 Sat. at Lamar Beaumont, Texas W 26-0
10/23/2010 Sat. at UC Davis Davis, Calif. W 24-21
10/30/2010 Sat. Georgia State Mobile W 39-34
11/6/2010 Sat. Henderson (Ark.) State (Homecoming) Mobile W 37-31
11/11/2010 Thu. Arkansas-Monticello Mobile W 31-14
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Originally Posted by California Cajun
This notion that "we have already tried assistants from big programs" and that didn't work out is a ridiculous argument. It's about like saying we tried Offensive football coaches, and that didn't work out, so let's get some other kind. All head coaches were assistants at one time. It's finding the right assistant that is important. I'm not saying that's the way to go, I'm saying we must keep our options open and find the best Coach we can. There are some programs that have assistants that have really made an impact. The OK State Off coord. and the TCU def. coord are examples of coaches that are way above normal in the success they are having. If we go with the experienced head coach, then he should be an energetic, sweet talkin, hi football IQ, go getter kind of coach, that's not ready to set up shop and retire. I think we need someone who is involved in recruiting, and does it very well. I'm not sold on any FCS coach at the moment, because none show a real dominance. Yeah, the SFA guy has some success, but moving up to FBS is a whole different environment in recruiting and competing. The Coach Marlin example doesn't really coorelate because he showed success in going to the NCAA tournament and winning against D1 teams, which is the same level that we are.
And please not Coach Orgeron. He was not successful at Ole Miss, and as Def Line coach for the Saints recently, they showed no improvement under him. Not to mention, listening to him on the radio, I was not impressed at all.
So you are talking about the South Alabama Coach? That is pretty impressive. I would say that's dominant. Interesting Coach, no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phant
I'm ready to try something else this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ULGrad@HOU
We hired Augie Tammariello (OC at Colorado when they had a #2 ranking the year before).
We hired Nelson Stokley (OC at Clemson when they won the national championship five years before).
We hired Rickey Bustle (OC at Virginia Tech when they played in the national championship game a couple of years before).
These guys were outstanding candidates.
I think it would be a good idea to go with a head coach this time that resurrected a program in spite of a tight budget. Remember also that we have academic requirements that make recruiting harder here than for some other schools.
For what we can pay, even if it is more than we have ever paid before, I think an FCS coach should definitely be considered.