UL's Assault on Greek Life Escalates

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Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler

Maybe the remaining 20% will do the trick. I mean, what else do we do at this point. These people literally don't give a damn. There's only one last option....the nuclear option. Everyone stay home.

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There should be a very public effort to boycott a specific game in 2024. Post it on Instagram, FB, etc... and tag the appropriate officials at UL. If there is enough smoke they will have no choice but to address it or look like bigger fools than they already do. The bad publicity of a fan base publicly boycotting a game due to incompetence from school officials is way worse than people silently not showing up to games.

I'm with Turbine and completely against any organized boycott of any UL sporting event. There's plenty of time between now and next fall to figure something out. I wasn't a Greek, so I'm not aware of the intricacies and whatnot...but what's stopping Frats and Sororities from buying private TG spots not run and patrolled by UL. Do fraternities and sororities get a stipend of funds from their parent orgs? Are Greek alums active donors to their respective fraternities/sororities? If so, use some of those funds for a private TG spot.

I wouldn't want to be a student tailgating under the nose of UL/UP anyway.

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Originally Posted by RedTails

I'm with Turbine and completely against any organized boycott of any UL sporting event. There's plenty of time between now and next fall to figure something out. I wasn't a Greek, so I'm not aware of the intricacies and whatnot...but what's stopping Frats and Sororities from buying private TG spots not run and patrolled by UL. Do fraternities and sororities get a stipend of funds from their parent orgs? Are Greek alums active donors to their respective fraternities/sororities? If so, use some of those funds for a private TG spot.

I wouldn't want to be a student tailgating under the nose of UL/UP anyway.

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I respect your opinion but what exactly is the plan ".....between now and next fall to figure something out?" Nothing to date has been figured out so without a plan I'm not sure why anyone should expect anything different from the university.

For change to happen there usually must be a catalyst to prompt it. Very few organizations are open to constructive criticism as part of continuous improvement. And that's because the work is never done, its continuously looking for ways to do things better. It's not the path of least resistance and it most definitely isn't the a path for the complacent.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Don’t know if is coincidence, I read on BN&B months back they were experiencing the same deal with Greeks and tailgating. Couldn’t find Greek post, but I found this…

They might have also discovered that Tech tailgating was at its apex before we kept cutting the parking lot off for gold tags that never showed at 8:30 AM! They might have also discovered that eliminating student tailgating in the park also eliminates students at the games. They might have also discovered that adding more restrictions to ticket sales doesn't actually increase ticket sales. On and on and on...

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What is BN&B?

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Originally Posted by BananaHammock

There should be a very public effort to boycott a specific game in 2024. Post it on Instagram, FB, etc... and tag the appropriate officials at UL. If there is enough smoke they will have no choice but to address it or look like bigger fools than they already do. The bad publicity of a fan base publicly boycotting a game due to incompetence from school officials is way worse than people silently not showing up to games.

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Agree 100%
I honestly feel until we publicly shame these people, nothing will change.

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Originally Posted by RedTails

I'm with Turbine and completely against any organized boycott of any UL sporting event. There's plenty of time between now and next fall to figure something out. I wasn't a Greek, so I'm not aware of the intricacies and whatnot...but what's stopping Frats and Sororities from buying private TG spots not run and patrolled by UL. Do fraternities and sororities get a stipend of funds from their parent orgs? Are Greek alums active donors to their respective fraternities/sororities? If so, use some of those funds for a private TG spot.

I wouldn't want to be a student tailgating under the nose of UL/UP anyway.

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So you think all of a sudden this admin is gonna get off its azz and actually do something? LoL! You have Stockholm syndrome. We saw what happened when there was a big uproar the last time they tried this crap with the students/Greeks. They had to backpeddle and actually do something. He have to put pressure on these clowns.

I'm ____ed. You're ____ed. Everybody is ____ed. I got so mad this Season that I had to retract 3 messages I dropped here on the RP. I even killed my monthly donation. Now that's bad. Any boycot idea will only hurt Louisiana more. I fully understand anyone wanting to go medieval but it will only hurt Louisiana more. Us becoming Cajun Mafia will not have a constructive end. The U knows there are no one at the games but at the same time there are smart moves being made by having incoming freshman enter the Swamp through the tunnel, taking photos on the field, having graduation ceremonies on the playing surface (all great ideas) but here is where things go crazy, fining students during games! No drinking games! Herd like cattle to the practice field and separate from Cajun Nation! WTH is going on! Demonizing the greeks! That's 50% of the damn student turnout.

It doesn't make since. But any type of boycott will simply injure the Athletes who chose to come play ball for Louisiana. They'll be second guessing why they chose UL, and that's when the tide will turn.

Just my take, as a Cajuns alum but more importantly a Fan.

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Originally Posted by Swamp

I'm ____ed. You're ____ed. Everybody is ____ed. I got so mad this Season that I had to retract 3 messages I dropped here on the RP. I even killed my monthly donation. Now that's bad. Any boycot idea will only hurt Louisiana more. I fully understand anyone wanting to go medieval but it will only hurt Louisiana more. Us becoming Cajun Mafia will not have a constructive end. The U knows there are no one at the games but at the same time there are smart moves being made by having incoming freshman enter the Swamp through the tunnel, taking photos on the field, having graduation ceremonies on the playing surface (all great ideas) but here is where things go crazy, fining students during games! No drinking games! Herd like cattle to the practice field and separate from Cajun Nation! WTH is going on! Demonizing the greeks! That's 50% of the damn student turnout.

It doesn't make since. But any type of boycott will simply injure the Athletes who chose to come play ball for Louisiana. They'll be second guessing why they chose UL, and that's when the tide will turn.

Just my take, as a Cajuns alum but more importantly a Fan.

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No offense but did anyone ever consider that perhaps the athletes are ____ed about the things Martin Hall is doing that hinders attendance at their games?!?!?! The attendance is already crap...terrible....pathetic.....miserable. So going from 7k in attendance to 1k, while shaming the administration to get off their ass and do better, for 1 game isn't the end of the world.

It's crazy that as a fanbase this is what we have to resort to so the admins will listen to us. But what's even crazier is for us all to keep doing the same thing, proposing ideas on a message board that won't ever make it in the right hands and continuing to show up at games and giving the appearance that things are acceptable. No matter the situation it's all about controlling the narrative and the one that controls the narrative wins. Right now we (fans) aren't controlling the narrative, we are crowing in the background and the die hard fans are showing up religiously for more ____ sandwiches.

One game of boycotting will go a LONG way with the proper message conveyed as to why there is a boycott. Anything less of a stance/message is just a hope and everyone knows hope isn't a strategy.

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Originally Posted by RedTails

I'm with Turbine and completely against any organized boycott of any UL sporting event. There's plenty of time between now and next fall to figure something out. I wasn't a Greek, so I'm not aware of the intricacies and whatnot...but what's stopping Frats and Sororities from buying private TG spots not run and patrolled by UL. Do fraternities and sororities get a stipend of funds from their parent orgs? Are Greek alums active donors to their respective fraternities/sororities? If so, use some of those funds for a private TG spot.

I wouldn't want to be a student tailgating under the nose of UL/UP anyway.

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I’m not saying one way or the other to boycott.

A couple things though:
1. I don’t think it should be up to the student organizations to come out of pocket for a different tailgating location just to not get harassed.
2. This notion of fixing the student issues in the off-season has been a thing now for several years. Maggard and university officials have had meetings with student orgs. It isn’t working. Whether the blame lies with the university or athletics, I don’t know. My guess would be the university. A public statement of this failure is needed to hold their feet to the fire.

I won’t judge the student orgs if they decide a boycott is in their best interest. The university clearly doesn’t have that in mind. They should look out for themselves.

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Originally Posted by zeppelincajun

I’m not saying one way or the other to boycott.

A couple things though:
1. I don’t think it should be up to the student organizations to come out of pocket for a different tailgating location just to not get harassed.
2. This notion of fixing the student issues in the off-season has been a thing now for several years. Maggard and university officials have had meetings with student orgs. It isn’t working. Whether the blame lies with the university or athletics, I don’t know. My guess would be the university. A public statement of this failure is needed to hold their feet to the fire.

I won’t judge the student orgs if they decide a boycott is in their best interest. The university clearly doesn’t have that in mind. They should look out for themselves.

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I agree with both your #1 and #2. However having student org's boycott is noble but we need a total boycott of fans/students for 1 game and make it very public ahead of time. That's the only way any traction will be had to fix things and let the university know we are sick and tired of their nonsense.

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Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler

So you think all of a sudden this admin is gonna get off its azz and actually do something? LoL! You have Stockholm syndrome. We saw what happened when there was a big uproar the last time they tried this crap with the students/Greeks. They had to backpeddle and actually do something. He have to put pressure on these clowns.

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The opposite. I was originally commenting that the Greeks need to proactively come up with a solution, but I just went re-read the email and I guess that's somewhat of an initiative. Again, I wasn't a part of Greek life so I don't understand what an unregistered event is lol. Since the University is involved in your brotherhood, you have to let them know when you want to hang out?

I did all my unregistered events on the Strip, Downtown, and at apartments/rent houses.

Let the Greeks register and explain themselves here to our Cajun National Assembly.

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Originally Posted by BananaHammock

No offense but did anyone ever consider that perhaps the athletes are ____ed about the things Martin Hall is doing that hinders attendance at their games?!?!?! The attendance is already crap...terrible....pathetic.....miserable. So going from 7k in attendance to 1k, while shaming the administration to get off their ass and do better, for 1 game isn't the end of the world.

It's crazy that as a fanbase this is what we have to resort to so the admins will listen to us. But what's even crazier is for us all to keep doing the same thing, proposing ideas on a message board that won't ever make it in the right hands and continuing to show up at games and giving the appearance that things are acceptable. No matter the situation it's all about controlling the narrative and the one that controls the narrative wins. Right now we (fans) aren't controlling the narrative, we are crowing in the background and the die hard fans are showing up religiously for more ____ sandwiches.

One game of boycotting will go a LONG way with the proper message conveyed as to why there is a boycott. Anything less of a stance/message is just a hope and everyone knows hope isn't a strategy.

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Sorry to inform you brother these post do make it in the right hands. They just don't give a ____.

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

Sorry to inform you brother thesepost do make it in the right hands. They just don't give a ____.

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If that's the case then a boycott is even more justified.

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Originally Posted by BananaHammock

If that's the case then a boycott is even more justified.

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We will not be at the game. I let my money do the talking. We just need many more to show the administration we mean business.

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Originally Posted by zeppelincajun

I’m not saying one way or the other to boycott.

A couple things though:
1. I don’t think it should be up to the student organizations to come out of pocket for a different tailgating location just to not get harassed.
2. This notion of fixing the student issues in the off-season has been a thing now for several years. Maggard and university officials have had meetings with student orgs. It isn’t working. Whether the blame lies with the university or athletics, I don’t know. My guess would be the university. A public statement of this failure is needed to hold their feet to the fire.

I won’t judge the student orgs if they decide a boycott is in their best interest. The university clearly doesn’t have that in mind. They should look out for themselves.

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I agree with both of your points, but if I were still a student facing the same issues...I'd just put some money together and buy our own spot. Some Greek alum chime in and let me know if that's not even possible because of all of this registering of hanging out and whatnot.

It's 100% a MH issue.

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Originally Posted by JMV JustMyView

We will not be at the game. I let my money do the talking. We just need many more to show the administration we mean business.

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Agreed. But they seem to be clueless as to why people are letting their money do the talking. Maybe we do a fundraiser for a few billboards as well to voice our displeasure.

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Originally Posted by BananaHammock

No offense but did anyone ever consider that perhaps the athletes are ____ed about the things Martin Hall is doing that hinders attendance at their games?!?!?! The attendance is already crap...terrible....pathetic.....miserable. So going from 7k in attendance to 1k, while shaming the administration to get off their ass and do better, for 1 game isn't the end of the world.

It's crazy that as a fanbase this is what we have to resort to so the admins will listen to us. But what's even crazier is for us all to keep doing the same thing, proposing ideas on a message board that won't ever make it in the right hands and continuing to show up at games and giving the appearance that things are acceptable. No matter the situation it's all about controlling the narrative and the one that controls the narrative wins. Right now we (fans) aren't controlling the narrative, we are crowing in the background and the die hard fans are showing up religiously for more ____ sandwiches.

One game of boycotting will go a LONG way with the proper message conveyed as to why there is a boycott. Anything less of a stance/message is just a hope and everyone knows hope isn't a strategy.

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I don't think you're wrong but don't forget that crowd when we hosted Troy FB last year. 7K fans bothered to show up for the best team in the SBC. How did MH and Athletics respond in 2023? Abysmal marketing, attacked the student orgs, digital tickets to an ancient fanbase and played the silent game with the stadium renovation renderings. Lol

It's an SNL skit.

There have been games where no students showed up.

If the Greeks boycotted, I wouldn't know the difference.

Instead start an initiative to get the Greeks more involved so that someday their presence will be appreciated by all.

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Originally Posted by ManAboutTown

It's an SNL skit.

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SNL

Students Not Loved

A boycott is stupid. Just do you and show up. Why even worry about all that crap. Plenty of ways to drink and have a good time. Guess that’s today’s society. Always wanting to do some kind of protest or organized movement.

I dont think it's stupid per se, but a boycott of a stadium that's already 80% empty is pretty pointless..

Guarantee the PA guy still comes on few minutes before kickoff: "alllllllrrrrright Cajuns fannnns! Let's get looouuud!" as if the stadium is full as ever

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Originally Posted by UL_Cajuns

A boycott is stupid. Just do you and show up. Why even worry about all that crap. Plenty of ways to drink and have a good time. Guess that’s today’s society. Always wanting to do some kind of protest or organized movement.

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You obviously don’t know how hard Martin hall is intentionally making it on the students and trying to prevent them from “just drinking and having a good time”. Boycott or not a message needs to be sent.

I did a quick search

Depaul: "Building something better together"
https://www.depauw.edu/campus-life/greek-life/

UL: "Is Going Greek for Me?" "Help! My Child Wants to Go Greek!"
https://greeklife.louisiana.edu/

Slightly different vibe.

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Originally Posted by Big Poppa

You obviously don’t know how hard Martin hall is intentionally making it on the students and trying to prevent them from “just drinking and having a good time”. Boycott or not a message needs to be sent.

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No Boycott. Especially in Senior day. Bad message! The players are students also. Show up if you can make it! Geaux UL!

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Originally Posted by Swamp

I'm ____ed. You're ____ed. Everybody is ____ed. I got so mad this Season that I had to retract 3 messages I dropped here on the RP. I even killed my monthly donation. Now that's bad. Any boycot idea will only hurt Louisiana more. I fully understand anyone wanting to go medieval but it will only hurt Louisiana more. Us becoming Cajun Mafia will not have a constructive end. The U knows there are no one at the games but at the same time there are smart moves being made by having incoming freshman enter the Swamp through the tunnel, taking photos on the field, having graduation ceremonies on the playing surface (all great ideas) but here is where things go crazy, fining students during games! No drinking games! Herd like cattle to the practice field and separate from Cajun Nation! WTH is going on! Demonizing the greeks! That's 50% of the damn student turnout.

It doesn't make since. But any type of boycott will simply injure the Athletes who chose to come play ball for Louisiana. They'll be second guessing why they chose UL, and that's when the tide will turn.

Just my take, as a Cajuns alum but more importantly a Fan.

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Some of yall have battered woman syndrome. Yall act as if this admin is just gonna have a change of heart and start doing the right thing. They won't. But hey, cue up "don't stop believing". It's pure insanity. I'm gonna ruin the movie, but guess what? Lucy pulls the football away from Charlie Brown.....AGAIN.