Maggard Has Confidence in Robichaux

The AD from Texas is best friends with the AD from TCU. Texas AD was on the committee. Don't underestimate that fact.

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Originally Posted by jumboragncajun

I think that was the same meeting. That was the "first time" they were suppose to start a new stadium at the end of the season, as we had been told for several months. I always thought that Robe was tired of repeating what he had been told and being made a liar. At which point he said to SF "You come tell them what is going on".

Bottom line is this: I think the second half of the season showed that our hitting is on an uptick, and if pitching is the problem, I have NO DOUBT it will get fixed. Without bashing anyone and naming names, we have seen Robe correct recruiting in a very private and respectable manner. I hope he gets it done again, however he sees fit to get it fixed.

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Yes, I thought so. I was there and asked Scott Farmer if the funds were raised, meaning the initial seed money that Dr Savoie said he would approve if a certain percentage was in hand.

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Originally Posted by CajunT

Yes, I thought so. I was there and asked Scott Farmer if the funds were raised, meaning the initial seed money that Dr Savoie said he would approve if a certain percentage was in hand.

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That was the era of the "silent phase" of fundraising. I seem to remember asking why don't they come out with a definite plan, show it to fans along with a timeline showing X amount of dollars to get started and X amount to get it built in X amount of time, and fund raise to that goal. The popularity was at a high point at the time. The answer was they'd look into that after the silent phase. To my knowledge, they never got out of the "silent" phase.

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Originally Posted by CajunAmos

That was the era of the "silent phase" of fundraising. I seem to remember asking why don't they come out with a definite plan, show it to fans along with a timeline showing X amount of dollars to get started and X amount to get it built in X amount of time, and fund raise to that goal. The popularity was at a high point at the time. The answer was they'd look into that after the silent phase. To my knowledge, they never got out of the "silent" phase.

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Looks like we may still be in the “silent phase”

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Originally Posted by talktomewillis

The AD from Texas is best friends with the AD from TCU. Texas AD was on the committee. Don't underestimate that fact.

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Wait.... you mean it is important for an AD to build relationships outside of City Bar? Who would have thought that?

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Originally Posted by CajunAmos

That was the era of the "silent phase" of fundraising. I seem to remember asking why don't they come out with a definite plan, show it to fans along with a timeline showing X amount of dollars to get started and X amount to get it built in X amount of time, and fund raise to that goal. The popularity was at a high point at the time. The answer was they'd look into that after the silent phase. To my knowledge, they never got out of the "silent" phase.

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Oh what a fun time that was especially the finger pointing. Nothing like not having money in the bank to start a multimillion dollar project.

A silent phase is SOP in a capital campaign...as you will see when the new guy gets on board and we start raising money for the stadium.

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

Looks like TCU gonna miss it 2 years in a row after 4 straight CWS...their guy must have forgot how to coach too

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4 straight CWS can buy you 2 straight missed post-seasons. I’d sign up today for a constant rotation of 4 CWS appearance followed by 4 years of missed post season.

That’s not the current situation at hand for us.

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

4 straight CWS can buy you 2 straight missed post-seasons. I’d sign up today for a constant rotation of 4 CWS appearance followed by 4 years of missed post season.

That’s not the current situation at hand for us.

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Didn’t say it was the current hand, but do you think TCU coach forgot how to coach? If a team In the big 12 with all their resources can go into a downward cycle after 4 straight CWS trips, what makes a sun belt program immune? Did TCU forget how to recruit?

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

Didn’t say it was the current hand, but do you think TCU coach forgot how to coach? If a team In the big 12 with all their resources can go into a downward cycle after 4 straight CWS trips, what makes a sun belt program immune? Did TCU forget how to recruit?

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Getting the right support staff is important in all sports. I’ve seen declines in many successful sports programs amateur and pros after the departure of top assistants. The same thing has happened here on several occasions. Robe has decided to keep a key assistant that arrived with the beginning of our decline. Frankly I’m doubtful that is the right move. Hopefully he’s right.

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

Getting the right support staff is important in all sports. I’ve seen declines in many successful sports programs amateur and pros after the departure of top assistants. The same thing has happened here on several occasions. Robe has decided to keep a key assistant that arrived with the beginning of our decline. Frankly I’m doubtful that is the right move. Hopefully he’s right.

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It’s his job to lose, not ours. I hope he is right also but if I were in his position I would also want to be in charge of my own fate as I’m sure most would like that as well in their professions. People rarely mention he was also the guy that made decisions that brought us success. Lately it seams some only want to point to his failures. Sometimes things just don’t work out like you planned.

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

It’s his job to lose, not ours. I hope he is right also but if I were in his position I would also want to be in charge of my own fate as I’m sure most would like that as well in their professions. People rarely mention he was also the guy that made decisions that brought us success. Lately it seams some only want to point to his failures. Sometimes things just don’t work out like you planned.

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Yes, just like the coach at Rice. Sometimes, the same message from one guy no longer carries much weight with players.

I’m not saying it’s time for Coach Robe to go, but what I am saying is he should not have some lifetime contract either. Managers in the private sector grow stale. Coaches grow stale. Politicians grow stale. Fact of life.

Tom Landry was fired. Chuck Noll was about to be before he stepped down.

He’s found face saving exits for his prior assistant mistakes, rarely an outright release. He’s betting the farm on Talbot. That’s the same coach whose been the main recruiter. Again hopefully he’s right.

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Originally Posted by Cajunrunner

Yes, just like the coach at Rice. Sometimes, the same message from one guy no longer carries much weight with players.

I’m not saying it’s time for Coach Robe to go, but what I am saying is he should not have some lifetime contract either. Managers in the private sector grow stale. Coaches grow stale. Politicians grow stale. Fact of life.

Tom Landry was fired. Chuck Noll was about to be before he stepped down.

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When we played in the regional at Houston Wayne graham could barely make it out the dugout. He is 83, tony is 57 years old. I’m not suggesting the guy has a lifetime contract. As I said earlier, everybody has a “it’s time to go” in their head..people have different opinions on when that is. I’m not ready to give up on tony yet, if you are that’s fine also. This season was a stinker but the previous 2 weren’t terrible. They weren’t up to standards but they still won almost 40 Games in 17 and 18. It’s not like it’s been 3 straight years of this. The last time we were in the exact position and the “game passed tony by” he made changes that led us to the best 4 year stretch in history. Will that happen again? Don’t know but are you willing to bet against tony turning it around?I'm
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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

He’s found face saving exits for his prior assistant mistakes, rarely an outright release. He’s betting the farm on Talbot. That’s the same coach whose been the main recruiter. Again hopefully he’s right.

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So he convinced other schools to hire his assistants to save face? And you want to get rid of a magician like that?

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

Didn’t say it was the current hand, but do you think TCU coach forgot how to coach? If a team In the big 12 with all their resources can go into a downward cycle after 4 straight CWS trips, what makes a sun belt program immune? Did TCU forget how to recruit?

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Nobody is immune. I just wish we were as consistently in the postseason as Southern Miss. Let's start there.

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Originally Posted by Dad04

Nobody is immune. I just wish we were as consistently in the postseason as Southern Miss. Let's start there.

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I wish we were in the postseason every year like softball. Pretty sure everyone here wants the same things in regards to results. We just have different opinions on how to get there.

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Originally Posted by Dad04

Nobody is immune. I just wish we were as consistently in the postseason as Southern Miss. Let's start there.

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And even they had a 4 year stretch with no post season (before this next 4 years in a row that they were in.) But I agree that we should strive to be more consistent. If USM can make it to 9 regionals in a row, I just find it hard to understand how our best ever stretch is 4

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Originally Posted by wcd35

And even they had a 4 year stretch with no post season (before this next 4 years in a row that they were in.) But I agree that we should strive to be more consistent. If USM can make it to 9 regionals in a row, I just find it hard to understand how our best ever stretch is 4

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13 regionals in the last 17 seasons, compared to our 7. USM was transitioning from an ill Corky Palmer to the new guy when they missed those 4 in a row. At least our coaches have been able to stay off injured reserve, so that excuse is off the table, for now.

USM is in a smaller state competing with TWO SEC teams for players. One would think USM is a good comp for us.

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Originally Posted by Dad04

13 regionals in the last 17 seasons, compared to our 7. USM was transitioning from an ill Corky Palmer to the new guy when they missed those 4 in a row. At least our coaches have been able to stay off injured reserve, so that excuse is off the table, for now.

One would think USM is a good comp for us.

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Berry made it his first two years then nothing for 4 and now back 4 in a row. So yeah there was some transition. Vaguely similar to how we made it for the two years after Deggs then nothing since

McNeese makes it 2 of last 3 years, meanwhile we’re sitting home.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

McNeese makes it 2 of last 3 years, meanwhile we’re sitting home.

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Uhm they haven’t been since 2003 before this year..do some of you just make ___ up? This is their 3rd regional ever I believe

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

So he convinced other schools to hire his assistants to save face? And you want to get rid of a magician like that?

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No the face saving coaches got into different careers. You might be thinking of the successful assistants like Schef and Deggs.

Maybe you’ve ignored my posts that I absolutely think he deserves more time. At the same time I’m concerned that more time isn’t going to help because his biggest recruiting failures have been under Talbot whose actually gotten more entrenched in the recruiting process.

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Originally Posted by CajunEXPRESS

No the face saving coaches got into different careers. You might be thinking of the successful assistants like Schef and Deggs.

Maybe you’ve ignored my posts that I absolutely think he deserves more time. At the same time I’m concerned that more time isn’t going to help because his biggest recruiting failures have been under Talbot whose actually gotten more entrenched in the recruiting process.

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You mean mike Trahan,who left for the private sector. Simoneaux, Scefz and deggs all left for better situations or moves up. I’m all about discussion but lets do that with facts. We know tony is a good baseball coach, that same concern would be there with a new guy as well. It’s all unknown

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

You mean mike Trahan,who left for the private sector. Simoneaux, Scefz and deggs all left for better situations or moves up. I’m all about discussion but lets do that with facts. We know tony is a good baseball coach, that same concern would be there with a new guy as well. It’s all unknown

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I’m pretty sure we said the same, except I didn’t explicitly say that the successful assistants left for promotions. That was a given as almost everyone on the site knows that.

So you’re comfortable with Talbot being Robe’s most important talent gatherer. That’s fine.

Historically Robichaux is in rare air 1100 plus wins, ranked in top 54 all time with realistic chance to get to top 15. In the top 54 his percentage of wins is.611 one of the lower winning percentage in top 54, but some actually with more wins in the upper fifty percentile. The point is longevity matters in some of the records.