Re: Louisiana vs. Georgia game thread...
The basics of basketball tell you to get to the rim. We did it tonight. And this team usually does it well. UGA just happened to have 2 monsters playing down low. I do wish we would have adjusted and tried to play more of an outside game. But at the same time, how do you tell your guys to scratch everything and start settling for jump shots? I'm not upset with this loss at all. Our guys competed. If we would have played better in those first 10 minutes, we could be looking at a different outcome.
Re: Louisiana vs. Georgia game thread...
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Originally Posted by
MountainDew
The basics of basketball tell you to get to the rim. We did it tonight. And this team usually does it well. UGA just happened to have 2 monsters playing down low. I do wish we would have adjusted and tried to play more of an outside game. But at the same time, how do you tell your guys to scratch everything and start settling for jump shots? I'm not upset with this loss at all. Our guys competed. If we would have played better in those first 10 minutes, we could be looking at a different outcome.
Completely agree. This was an even game outside of the first few minutes when we couldn't throw it in the ocean. A neutral court and neutral officials would have helped too.
I think our lack of size in the front court was the difference, something that has concerned me since the preseason. We will struggle with teams that have good bigs.
I loved the effort the team showed in getting back in the game, cutting the lead to 2, but you could see that the energy had been pretty much used up to get to that point and Georgia immediately went on a 7-0 run and that was that.
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ManAboutTown
Well Bryce picked up two cheap fouls and was getting mugged all night so, idk. Our bigs are good passers, but that's not why we were winning. We were winning because we were playing fast, getting cheap buckets and attacking the rim.
This. I kept asking why we weren't playing with that pace that we played with against Tech which was trying to get more into transition and neutralize the size advantage they had on us. I found that we were too willing to play a slower half court game which benefited them.
Other than that, the game went kind of like I figured. I've been saying that our lack of size will hurt us against teams like this who have big athletic guys down low and their guards were rangy as well and they gave Bartley and even Jay Wright a lot of trouble.
So, as our rebounding goes so do we I believe and we got outrebounded by a decent SEC team. This doesn't surprise me.
The drive and kick game is what we've been running with lately because of the effectiveness of Jay Wright with the ball in his hands and even Bartley for that matter. It sets up open shot when the defense has to help on the backside, however, the drive and kick game is neutralized a bit when the defender is just as quick as you and bigger and doesn't require the same help defense that other teams will have to commit to and that was a big factor.
Bryce getting those two early fouls absolutely killed us. He's a central part of our offense and we had to take him out the game for a long period there and the execution just wasn't the same.
I don't feel any different about our chances moving forward after this game. I still think we are going to give people fits and be a factor in the conference race. Our opponent had more to do with this loss than our talent or coaching.
Re: Louisiana vs. Georgia game thread...
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MountainDew
The basics of basketball tell you to get to the rim. We did it tonight. And this team usually does it well. UGA just happened to have 2 monsters playing down low. I do wish we would have adjusted and tried to play more of an outside game. But at the same time, how do you tell your guys to scratch everything and start settling for jump shots? I'm not upset with this loss at all. Our guys competed. If we would have played better in those first 10 minutes, we could be looking at a different outcome.
We were trying to drive and create fouls to soften them up on the inside. Our outside shot wasn't falling except for Miller so we tried to create some higher percentage shots.
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jllanclos
But in less than 10 minutes, it was clear that winning this way wasn't going to happen tonight. No adjustment was made. Not going up stronger. Not shooting outside. Not slowing it down. Nothing.
Hey that's our style win or lose is how swac teams try to run with #1 seeds and hang their hats on staying close for 10 minutes.
We didn't even stay close for 10 minutes.
Proud of the effort, though. This team is fun to watch and can make some noise for sure.
Going to be a fun ride.
What? We went up strong in the lane all night. They had two good shot blockers waiting for us and they had career nights because we attacked the rim all night.
First, we did slow it down which was to our detriment. We are one of the highest scoring teams in the country. You don't do that playing at a slow pace. They are not a high scoring team. You try to insert your will more than them and get them out of their comfort zone by raising the pace.
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VObserver
Washington had 18 rebounds. Bartley had 11. We were only outrebounded 46-40. We shot 73% from the line. We did not lose on the boards or at the line. We lost shooting. Some was just misses, some was forcing up shots, some was the fact that Georgia's bigs are good, plus SEC officials were not calling any fouls against Georgia for body contact fouls when they were blocking shots. I lost count of how many times we reached the rim, only to be knocked to the floor on a missed layup or blocked shot, with no foul being called.
We got nothing from Wright tonight, Stove was ineffective, and we got little from the bench. Miller scored well but did not shoot well and still has problems rebounding.
That being said, we should have changed tactics as soon as we knew that we were not going to score by getting to the rim.
We gave up 13 offensive rebounds and most of those were turned into points. When we held them to under 40% shooting and less than 30% from 3pt in the first half, those rebounds directly affected the game.
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Hark Mudspeth
Latech was bigger and more athletic and we won. Georgia was bigger and more athletic and we didn't. If you you say something over and over and it will eventually happen. We will win some games because of our smaller lineup and we will lose some games because of it. It's not like we would go 34-0 if we were big and athletic. Bryce sitting down in the first 90 seconds basically threw the gameplan out the window, To expect a team this young and inexperienced to overcome that on the road at an SEC school with 2 all conference players is asking a little much. I agree this game didn't change what I think they can do moving forward.
You didn't see what I said. Both teams were bigger and more athletic than we were. The difference was our ability to get into transition against Tech. Georgia was NOT letting us do this as they were dropping 3 guys back when the shot was released. They still got 13 offensive rebounds with essentially 1 or 2 guys hitting the boards on offense and then they had numbers back on defense when we wanted to run.
Also, their guards were better with the ball and we didn't get the turnovers we forced Tech into setting up our transition.
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Georgia has better players than tech. We played tech at home. We couldn't buy a call or a shot for the first 10 minutes. Pretty much the bottom line. I still like this team.
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Hark Mudspeth
You're are right I didn't see you come here and say you were wrong after the tech game but immediately came to say you were right after Georgia. Georgia is better than us, it was a winnable game but they are better. We just beat a team pretty easily that was way bigger and more athletic than us...Georgia is better.
WTF are you talking about? I said that our size disadvantage will bite us on certain nights, particularly against bigger more athletic teams. We overcame it by getting into transition against Tech and forcing them into 20+ turnovers. We didn't against Georgia. So what is your point?
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ManAboutTown
We already have a resident d1ck around here.
Tech doesn't have anyone like Maten. They are not similar. Georgia would kill Tech, especially with the officials that we had to deal with last night.
This game will make our team grow up a little bit. My biggest complaint was Jay Wright taking a few poor shots. I'm also concerned that Stalcup and Plaisance couldn't contribute a lick.
We saw some fight out of our freshmen. They are not scared. That is a huge revelation.
I'd like to think that Stalcup can contribute. Just doesn't seem to be getting a chance.
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ManAboutTown
He looked like a boy among men last night, and I'm not talking just about size. I think he's given us some quality minutes against the some lesser teams, but he's got a long way to go. I realize Georgia guys were really good, but I need more from Stalcup.
He doesn't look like a physical player to me. He appears to not be aggressive to block shots or rebound. If you're only going to get to play a few minutes of a game, you could at least do it with a lot of effort.
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ManAboutTown
He looked like a boy among men last night, and I'm not talking just about size. I think he's given us some quality minutes against the some lesser teams, but he's got a long way to go. I realize Georgia guys were really good, but I need more from Stalcup.
Stalcup is NOT a quality D1 player.....nope, no way.
I've sat down and watched him exclusively to see what our staff might've saw in him. When he signed two years ago, they said he'd make an immediate impact on the boards and defensively. He looks lost out there. He almost reminds me of Bambi, not really agile on his feet, tends to overthink, which ultimately puts him out of position. He has a C+ baby hook, but his overall offensive game is an F. Sorry but we whiffed on this one.
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scotto_25
Stalcup is NOT a quality D1 player.....nope, no way.
I've sat down and watched him exclusively to see what our staff might've saw in him. When he signed two years ago, they said he'd make an immediate impact on the boards and defensively. He looks lost out there. He almost reminds me of Bambi, not really agile on his feet, tends to overthink, which ultimately puts him out of position. He has a C+ baby hook, but his overall offensive game is an F. Sorry but we whiffed on this one.
We might want to give the guy a bit more than the 60 minutes or so of court time he's had so far before we decide he's a bust. I do agree he has a long way to go.
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charliek
Georgia has better players than tech. We played tech at home. We couldn't buy a call or a shot for the first 10 minutes. Pretty much the bottom line. I still like this team.
Play by play guy said it. It took a few minutes for our guys to adjust to the ticky-tack officiating. After we adjusted, it was a pretty even game.
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CajunNation
Play by play guy said it. It took a few minutes for our guys to adjust to the ticky-tack officiating. After we adjusted, it was a pretty even game.
Lots of body contact on some of those monster BLOCKS, BLOCKS and missed layups went uncalled.
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Ragin4U
We might want to give the guy a bit more than the 60 minutes or so of court time he's had so far before we decide he's a bust. I do agree he has a long way to go.
Why should WE give him more than 60 min when his own coaches who recruited him wont?
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Ragin4U
Lots of body contact on some of those monster blacks and missed layups went uncalled.
That's racist