Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
58% winning percentage in pretty bad basketball conference and worse overall schedule. 1 NCAA appearance and 1 title each for conference championship and/or conference tournament championship in 9 years. That's mediocre.Keep grasping for each and every straw you can though.
You can<s>'t</s> bring up "1 NCAA appearance and 1 title" in response to irrefutable evidence as to why there weren't more.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
It looks like Willis knows a whole more than many really want to know. But now it's there in black and white so enjoy.
Not really. Much of his post is based on speculation. He states that nobody cares more in the deep south about basketball. Based on his post, he's speculating this on attendance. Well, if that's the case, then nobody cares about college football in the deep south (SEC area) because all schools are posting attendance declines which includes Alabama. It's all how you want to spin it. He states that nobody dominates mid major level basketball...NOBODY. Well, that is a somewhat subjective terms and can be interpreted differently. He's wrong because Gonzaga does exactly that. I don't expect us to dominate but I do expect us to win more than 1 regular season championship in 9 years and more than 1 NCAA tournament in 9 years as well.
Again, its all about how you spin it. He also claims we have two conference titles in the last 5 years. I don't consider a conference tournament title a title. I know this is a common reference but one that I just don't agree with. You didn't win a conference championship when you may or may not have to play more games than the others in the tournament due to byes and you can win it with 3 games and a losing record. There are teams that get into the NCAA with losing records or .500 records. I don't consider them champs. What we did last year was a true championship.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
You can<s>'t</s> bring up "1 NCAA appearance and 1 title" in response to irrefutable evidence as to why there weren't more.
LOL. What? Your evidence which is based on speculation that we would have gone to another NCAA had Elfrid not left early? LOL. Ok
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
My question is whether we actually have defined expectations of Marlin as it relates to his contract.
There are bonuses attached to the regular season championship, conference tournament championship and NCAA Tournament appearances. I don't know the other specifics, including the buyout until we actually see the contract.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
Marlin outcoached himself from some diehard fan approval.
He took an underage EP, coached him into the NBA early, and denied himself the "combo" of Payton & Long as a Senior/Junior tandem.
If Marlin had that dnh year on his resume, the mediocre crowd would be silent. ... Perhaps
St Bobby didn’t do anything special there. EP was getting to the NBA as an early draft pick. Marlin did give him some good advice on getting involved in international community which got him attention.
Most coaches today think it’s to their benefit to have a lottery pick leave early. Kinda like the Indians showing the pioneers to throw a fish into the corn planting.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
It’s not like things are exactly looking bright for the immediate future either..we lost Marquetti and even the defenders have all but written off this season, so what happens when we lose Gant, Stroman and Marquetti? It looks like they missed on a couple guys and a guy they will depend on greatly next year will have not played a single minute and coming off an ACL? So this year in the “injury pass” next year we will Be “young” and next thing you know it’s 2020 and we may or may not be in a position to possibly maybe be a contender possibly might maybe.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
I'm glad we feel differently.
I wonder how revenues from softball compare to those generated by the basketball program.
Anyone know?
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
CajunEXPRESS
St Bobby didn't do anything special there. EP was getting to the NBA as an early draft pick. Marlin did give him some good advice on getting involved in international community which got him attention.
Most coaches today think it's to their benefit to have a lottery pick leave early. Kinda like the Indians showing the pioneers to throw a fish into the corn planting.
What's with the Street Bob reference, will it help recruiting? ;)
Marlin absolutely is responsible for EP getting drafted, at least as much as any coach can be responsible.
Getting a highschool aged player to focus on defense and ball handling was the right ticket.
Most schools would have benched that young below average shooter with his atrociously bad FT skills.
Marlin pulled all the right strings to develop an NBA player, and in the process out coached his coverage.
Zero doubt that having an NBA caliber player return for a senior season would have eliminated the stat most often used against Marlin.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
CajunT
There are bonuses attached to the regular season championship, conference tournament championship and NCAA Tournament appearances. I don't know the other specifics, including the buyout until we actually see the contract.
I get it. Those are incentives. I would like to know if Maggard has specific goals and expectations outlined for Marlin to live up to.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
Cajunfanatico
I wonder how revenues from softball compare to those generated by the basketball program.
Anyone know?
I saw the financial report that T has referenced several times. From what I remember, baseball and softball don't make any money whatsoever. They are essentially just costs to the university.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
I saw the financial report that T has referenced several times. From what I remember, baseball and softball don't make any money whatsoever. They are essentially just costs to the university.
Sorry to tell you, however a sport that sells about 4500 season tickets generates plenty of money and doesn't "just costs the university." Now it may not be self sufficient but the words that you used are less than accurate.
Re: MBB G13 Final: Louisiana 73, SLU 72
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
What's with the Street Bob reference, will it help recruiting? ;)
Marlin absolutely is responsible for EP getting drafted, at least as much as any coach can be responsible.
Getting a highschool aged player to focus on defense and ball handling was the right ticket.
Most schools would have benched that young below average shooter with his atrociously bad FT skills.
Marlin pulled all the right strings to develop an NBA player, and in the process out coached his coverage.
Zero doubt that having an NBA caliber player return for a senior season would have eliminated the stat most often used against Marlin.
Surely you jest 😂😂😂😂😂Saint Bobby, not street Bobby.
Marlin stole EP. it’s common knowledge EP wasn’t believed to be an early high school graduate. Well this same crowd used to bragg on ol Bobby getting EP under P5 noses even before he became legend.