LOL!!! If we could win this thread wouldn't be.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNeese72
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LOL!!! If we could win this thread wouldn't be.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNeese72
Where did you get that piece of information?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
If baldwin was such a good coach, why isnt he coaching anywhere....anywhere since being let go from UL?
maybe we can hire RC?
UL must not be the only racist university out there. I smell a class action.Quote:
Originally Posted by RaginFan
It's a conspiracy!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by rhineaux
It's a conspiracy!!!!
It's a conspiracy!!!!
UL won't hire him and he's now personna non grata in the coaching ranks!!
Sue 'em all Baldwin, sue 'em all. :p
Why aren't all these D1A programs knocking down Baldwin's door?
Can't someone give him a chance?:D
He'll do for their program what he did for ours!;)
I'm still trying to figure out how it went to court. Isn't there a statute of limitations that has probably expired a long time ago?
If the judge is Liberal, Baldwin probably wins.
If not, UL probably wins.
pretty simple
Unfortunately this is a jury trial. Although I'm at a loss as to how it is a jury trial because plaintiffs do not have a right to a jury in actions against the state and its subdivisions. La. R.S. 13:5105.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
I just re-read the 1st Circuit's decision that allowed the trial to go forward. Apparently, its the following facts that the court thought included some discrimatory intent:
1 we did not have a marketing director or a fundraising guru after Baldwin year 1
2 we hired a marketing director and a fundraiser for Bustle.
That's it. Its a G-d d-mn catch 22.
If we don't hire a marketing director (some one tell me who this is?) or a fundraiser (I assume this is Gerald Hebert) we suck even worse but Baldwin has no case.
But if we do make these hires, its not because it'll benefit the program, its because we wanted to keep the Rev. Plaintiff down.
Bull____!!
Here's what the court said:
The facts asserted by both Mr. Baldwin and ULL are open to different interpretations. For example, different motives can be attributed to the decision not to hire another marketing director during Mr. Baldwin's tenure as head coach, allegedly for financial reasons, and the hiring of a marketing director and fundraiser shortly after Mr. Baldwin was removed. The decision could be seen as an indirect method of weakening Mr. Baldwin's attempts to improve support for the team, or may have been a totally financial decision. Similarly, the testimony on the number of variables used by the school in grading the team's performance other than the win/loss record, and the reliance on "money games" as well as the sale of game tickets to improve the budget, could cast doubt on the legitimacy of two of the bases given by ULL for Mr. Baldwin's removal. On the other hand, after the trial court makes various credibility determinations, ULL's decision to remove Mr. Baldwin from his duties as head coach may be found to have a legitimate, non-discriminatory basis. Also, even though a former coach was alerted to the school's concerns and given an opportunity to improve, the failure to alert Mr. Baldwin to ULL's dissatisfaction with the football program's progress may have no basis in discrimination. However, if the disparate treatment was a decision based on discrimination, it is unlawful. In summary, these inquiries, which require credibility decisions and determinations of reasonableness of conduct, and motive and intent, are not ripe for summary judgment.
Troy you are a fool for this thread. I heard Jay Walker say @ 3:30 that he had talked to a lawyer on the case for UL. His prognosis was good. From what i have read they are non factual charges.
Go Louisiana
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After deliberating about 10 hours today, a Baton Rouge jury awarded $2 million to former ULL head football coach Jerry Baldwin.
Baldwin filed the suit in 19th Judicial District Court, claiming the decision by the University of Louisiana at Lafayette to fire him in 2001 was discriminatory.
The award is for past and future wages and general damages, including emotional distress.
Baldwin, the university’s first black head football coach, said he was just beginning to turn around the school’s football program. In his three years, the teams had a record of 6-27.
Named as defendants are ULL, the Board of Supervisors for the University of Louisiana System and the university’s athletic director, Nelson Schexnayder.
<center><p><a href="http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/10659696.html" target="_blank">The source of the story</a>
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Who'da thunk it? I actually had a sneaky suspicion that it could come to this...where will the 2M come from?
What's unfortunate about this absurd ruling is it will force colleges to think long and hard before hiring minorities...
I'm SICK
Nope, the jury is out and the news is a bummer for Cajun fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrudaCajun
So, I wonder if the jury ruled that descrimination was a factor or that buying out the contract hurt his future job options. I just don't see the race card when UL had hired Baldwin and Jesse Evans and Robert Lee...The record of descrimination is just not there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
This is the biggest pile of bull____ i have ever seen. He didn't get fired cuase he was black he was fired because he was a horrible head coach. How could anyone give him money after look at what he did over the 3 years he was here. BULL____
I am outraged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clutch0364
Dr. A should resign.
Oh, wait...
This exemplifies the problem with our judicial system. You have got to be kidding me!
Can you say "OJ Jury"? I'd like to know what the make-up of this jury was. I hope it can be appealed. What an injustice................
I was wondering where the money will come from. Did we just lose our 3% gain to some yahoo. I find it very interesting that a jury in Baton Rouge came down with that decision. Smells fishy to me. Hope it is goes to appeal.
I'll explain the Baton Rouge part.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissingMandy
UL is a state agency.
Venue for lawsuits against state agencies is in Baton Rouge.
Baldwin's first win was to file in BR and take the case away from the people who saw his incompetance first hand.
I don't understand the rationale in placing the case before a jury because a plaintiff does not have the right to a jury trial against a state agency. The fact that it was a jury trial means that UL must have agreed to a jury.
It did not help that EBR has a more liberal jury pool than Lafayette.
What you should place your faith in is the hands of the district court judge who originally threw the case out. There are a few post trial motions available to UL (JNOV, New Trial).
I'd rather be going to the First Circuit trying to defend a successful post trial motion than trying to overturn the jury verdict. The standard of review is different.
If it is a factual determination, the court of appeal generally won't touch it unless the error in judgment was such that "no reasonable person could differ" on the conclusion. If the facts are subject to varying interpretations, the court of appeal is not going to overturn it just because one version is better.
In otherwords, if "reasonable minds could differ" the court won't touch a jury fact finding.
So in other words....we just lost our 3% gain for our athletes or is the University insured in some way for this kind of thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroCajun
he sued the school, not the athletic dept.
I wonder what robert lee's take is on this.