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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JMV JustMyView
UL hired Mike Lotief and his wife and it worked out OK.
Different sport, different era.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
Different sport, different era.
The era we are in isn't working out. ANYONE is better than what we have now. Larry Dierker came out of the radio broadcast booth to coach the Astros with zero coaching experience. It can be done.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JMV JustMyView
The era we are in isn't working out. ANYONE is better than what we have now.
Would recruits take him seriously? I know nothing about the man except what I have read here over the past decade or so, but, if I'm a serious recruit, I probably want someone with a collegiate record of success as either a head coach at a smaller school or an assistant at a bigger one.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JMV JustMyView
The era we are in isn't working out. ANYONE is better than what we have now.
While that may not be false, I still think we ought to do, y'know, a national search. If Boyd wants to apply, he is free to do so.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
covcaj
Would recruits take him seriously? I know nothing about the man except what I have read here over the past decade or so, but, if I'm a serious recruit, I probably want someone with a collegiate record of success as either a head coach at a smaller school or an assistant at a bigger one.
He would relate to recruits way better than what we have now. Recruiting is 1 area he would shine. He's been involved with the AAU circuit over the years and has some good relationships with coaches
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
covcaj
Would recruits take him seriously? I know nothing about the man except what I have read here over the past decade or so, but, if I'm a serious recruit, I probably want someone with a collegiate record of success as either a head coach at a smaller school or an assistant at a bigger one.
I will let him answer those questions.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
facelessjonmoon
He would relate to recruits way better than what we have now. Recruiting is 1 area he would shine. He's been involved with the AAU circuit over the years and has some good relationships with coaches
Please understand that is no slam. I do not know the man, but I do think it is a legitimate question. And, the question is not whether he can relate better than the current head coach (that's a very low bar), but whether he is the best person we can get to relate and get a commit from a recruit .
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
Different sport, different era.
You're right. Our basketball program is more like a high school program than a D1 one, evidenced by the fact the wife of the head coach gets on social media and is condescending towards fans.
Only at the high school or DIII level would that happen. Certainly not at the D1 level of a "proud" program.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
Cajunrunner
You're right. Our basketball program is more like a high school program than a D1 one, evidenced by the fact the wife of the head coach gets on social media and is condescending towards fans.
Only at the high school or DIII level would that happen. Certainly not at the D1 level of a "proud" program.
Man, I've heard about this, and I'm afraid to look for it. There is such a disconnect at the top of this program.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
While that may not be false, I still think we ought to do, y'know, a national search. If Boyd wants to apply, he is free to do so.
Like the national search that was done for UL football?
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JMV JustMyView
Like the national search that was done for UL football?
You mean when the program was foundering and we hired Napier after an extensive national search? Yes.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
Different sport, different era.
Ok. Same sport. Same era.
Penny Hardaway at Memphis.
Good enough comparison? Wanna run through his coaching resume?
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JamesTheJeweler
Ok. Same sport. Same era.
Penny Hardaway at Memphis.
Good enough comparison?
I have no idea how that hire went down. Did they interview other possible candidates? Was there a national search? Or did someone just call Penny and ask him if he wanted the job?
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
You mean when the program was foundering and we hired Napier after an extensive national search? Yes.
And who did we hire after Napier? If national search was the answer, why didn't we go the same route again? And Huds last 2 years werent good, but he took this program to a place it had never been. Zero comparison between the football program then and the basketball program now. Thats silly
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
I have no idea how that hire went down. Did they interview other possible candidates? Was there a national search? Or did someone just call Penny and ask him if he wanted the job?
LoL! Why does that matter??? They hired a guy with no coaching or recruiting experience. Just bolsters my point. Memphis program had the clout and the means to go out and get just about anybody they wanted. They didn't. Wasn't that crazy for Memphis was it? You think Memphis fans are glad they didn't do a national search? I suspect strongly that they are.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JamesTheJeweler
And who did we hire after Napier? If national search was the answer, why didn't we go the same route again? And Huds last 2 years werent good, but he took this program to a place it had never been. Zero comparison between the football program then and the basketball program now. Thats silly
And there is zero comparison between hiring someone who'd been on your staff for five years, versus someone who's been coaching middle school for more than a decade.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
You mean when the program was foundering and we hired Napier after an extensive national search? Yes.
I mean once Napier left. That search.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JamesTheJeweler
LoL! Why does that matter??? They hired a guy with no coaching or recruiting experience. Just bolsters my point. Memphis program had the clout and the means to go out and get just about anybody they wanted. They didn't. Wasn't that crazy for Memphis was it? You think Memphis fans are glad they didn't do a national search? I suspect strongly that they are.
You comparing Penny Hardaway to Brad Boyd?
Hardaway is a national brand. He had major endorsements and his own shoe. Kids want to play for him. Nobody knows who brad Boyd is outside of Lafayette parish. Give me a freaking break.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
And there is zero comparison between hiring someone who'd been on your staff for five years, versus someone who's been coaching middle school for more than a decade.
Brad also coached major level AAU ball.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
Esqueleto
You comparing Penny Hardaway to Brad Boyd?
Hardaway is a national brand. He had major endorsements and his own shoe. Kids want to play for him. Nobody knows who brad Boyd is outside of Lafayette parish. Give me a freaking break.
Yeah? How does that make him a good coach?
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
And there is zero comparison between hiring someone who'd been on your staff for five years, versus someone who's been coaching middle school for more than a decade.
You do know he was an assistant at UL and also coached high school right?
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
Esqueleto
You comparing Penny Hardaway to Brad Boyd?
Hardaway is a national brand. He had major endorsements and his own shoe. Kids want to play for him. Nobody knows who brad Boyd is outside of Lafayette parish. Give me a freaking break.
So by that measure, any star with endorsement deals and a shoe will make a great coach? Give ME a break. And Memphis basketball is already a national brand. We arent.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
JamesTheJeweler
You do know he was an assistant at UL and also coached high school right?
Sigh...
Like I said earlier, if he wants to interview, then fine. If he's the best candidate, great. I got nothing against him. But I don't think he — or anyone — should just be handed the job. Which is what you and JMV seem to be wanting.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
AirBill
Sigh...
Like I said earlier, if he wants to interview, then fine. If he's the best candidate, great. I got nothing against him. But I don't think he — or anyone — should just be handed the job. Which is what you and JMV seem to be wanting.
Well maybe at least know SOMETHING about him before disparaging him by saying he only coached middle school for over a decade, when that isn't even the case. And no one said we should just hand him the job. No one.
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Re: Time to give Brad Boyd a shot.
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Originally Posted by
Esqueleto
LOl, it's amazing some people think a university should hire a coach without any college coaching experience and is currently coaching middle school.
This! Please stop with the Brad Boyd nonsense.