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Originally Posted by zephyr

His was pretty vanilla and vague IMO. Didn't see too much that would alarm me in the sense of taking drastic measures like renaming buildings and such. Couldn't find the Liberal Arts Dept. release though.

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He signed off on the Diversity Action plan linked in his media release. But of course he started off the release with #BlackLivesMatter

https://president.louisiana.edu/blog...ore-inclusive- university

The Liberal Arts Media Release with Action Plan
https://english.louisiana.edu/node/329

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Originally Posted by CajunT

My point is that many statutes are being taken down regardless of their impact upon American History or cultural for one reason, because they are part of the history that is seen as patriarchal white men. That sound very much like what Hitler did, removing all traces of history from society he did not believe in. The same thing that ISIS did in all the areas it conquered and the Taliban did in Afganistan.

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You don't learn history from statues. We have books. No one has ever looked at a statue and said "Ok. NOW I'm educated".

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Originally Posted by Duggie35

Just read the KLFY article. It's amazing that a petition signed by 200 of 19,000 students would have enough influence to even consider renaming anything! It's also amazing to know that everyone getting involved with the ridiculous efforts to change history and rename everything in sight have no skeletons in any of their closets! These are apparently the most perfect people on earth!

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I'm guessing if that skeleton's name is Slavery, yeah, I see the issue.

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Originally Posted by CajunT

He signed off on the Diversity Action plan linked in his media release. But of course he started off the release with #BlackLivesMatter

https://president.louisiana.edu/blog...ore-inclusive- university

The Liberal Arts Media Release with Action Plan
https://english.louisiana.edu/node/329

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So diversity is a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by fpc4life99

I'm not blaming them for being upset, but make your voice heard on another platform other than raginpagin. Go straight to those in-charge and make it known of your displeasure.

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This is a UL fan message board where fans speak their minds on our programs and where we can agree to the views or not. All of it comes with the territory.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

So diversity is a bad thing?

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When it is used to straight up pander, then yes.

As someone with Asian blood, I don't want to get chosen or picked to do something because of what I look like. I would rather my qualifications do the talking.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

I'm guessing if that skeleton's name is Slavery, yeah, I see the issue.

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Dude,
No one signing a petition today has ever been a slave! As a matter of fact, ANYONE (white, black, red, green, purple or blue) living in this country has it better than 90% of the worlds population, regardless of race!

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Originally Posted by CajunT

He signed off on the Diversity Action plan linked in his media release. But of course he started off the release with #BlackLivesMatter

https://president.louisiana.edu/blog...ore-inclusive- university

The Liberal Arts Media Release with Action Plan
https://english.louisiana.edu/node/329

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Thanks. So I read through both of those statements and I don’t see anything

You can agree or disagree with the policies they are implementing (I actually disagree with a lot of them,) but what you can’t do is put words in their mouth. They clearly didn’t say anything in support of Marxism, “programming of students,” renaming facilities, or “social disorder.” I don’t understand why you feel the need to make dishonest statements like that against our University and our President.

If you want to know why I ask you for sources, this is why. A lot of what you say when it comes to politics is simply not based in truth.

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Originally Posted by zephyr

I think this is Doc's.

https://www.klfy.com/local/ul-lafaye...and-diversity/

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Thanks zephyr.

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Originally Posted by Duggie35

Dude,
No one signing a petition today has ever been a slave! As a matter of fact, ANYONE (white, black, red, green, purple or blue) living in this country has it better than 90% of the worlds population, regardless of race!

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Growing up as a kid, I had the distinct privilege of traveling to places in South America and Asia with my parents.

And I understand that our country doesn't always have the greatest past. But for someone to say how "bad" it is in this country compared to other places around the world, I challenge them to spend a week in some of the poorer countries and see what it's really like to have it bad. Go to Venezuela right now and see how "great" socialism has made their country.

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Originally Posted by ULvictory

When it is used to straight up pander, then yes.

As someone with Asian blood, I don't want to get chosen or picked to do something because of what I look like. I would rather my qualifications do the talking.

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I'm guessing you would also want it the other way, too. Not denied something because of your ethnicity.
I understand that the color of my skin has never gotten in the way of advancement.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

I'm guessing you would also want it the other way, too. Not denied something because of your ethnicity.
I understand that the color of my skin has never gotten in the way of advancement.

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If I am denied something because of my ethnicity, then the heck with them. That's not a place I would want to work at to begin with because even if I was chosen, there is a built-in prejudice to which I want no association.

But again, what will not work is directly accepting someone just because of what they look like. That's dangerous territory. I'll take someone who is qualified regardless what he/she might look like. Just get the job done.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

So diversity is a bad thing?

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Diversity became the word of choice after the Supreme Court knocked down Texas med school quota model. So we no longer have quotas, we now have an asset called diversity that the Supreme Court approved.

I’m not a diversity guy, I’m a best person guy. Sometimes it’s even a white guy who’s under thirty.

There’s very little diversity in the NFL, NBA, NHL. I don’t know why African Americans are so good at basketball. Seems nobody else works as hard to master the game. Surely can’t have anything to do with genetics.

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Originally Posted by Duggie35

Dude,
No one signing a petition today has ever been a slave! As a matter of fact, ANYONE (white, black, red, green, purple or blue) living in this country has it better than 90% of the worlds population, regardless of race!

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So it just gets wiped away? A history of racial oppression is just gone. The Civil War ended 150 years ago. Black people legally gained the right to vote with the 15th Amendment and still had/have major issues exercising that basic right. Schools/bathrooms/water fountains were still segregated into the late 60s and early 70s. The freaking 1970's!!

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Originally Posted by ULvictory

If I am denied something because of my ethnicity, then the heck with them. That's not a place I would want to work at to begin with because even if I was chosen, there is a built-in prejudice to which I want no association.

But again, what will not work is directly accepting someone just because of what they look like. That's dangerous territory. I'll take someone who is qualified regardless what he/she might look like. Just get the job done.

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Take your first sentence and apply it the nation.

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Originally Posted by ULvictory

Growing up as a kid, I had the distinct privilege of traveling to places in South America and Asia with my parents.

And I understand that our country doesn't always have the greatest past. But for someone to say how "bad" it is in this country compared to other places around the world, I challenge them to spend a week in some of the poorer countries and see what it's really like to have it bad. Go to Venezuela right now and see how "great" socialism has made their country.

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I think we should aspire to be better than Venezuela.

We live one of in the richest countries in the world but we lag far behind most other first world countries when it comes to things like poverty, inequality, healthcare, education, etc. When countries with less resources than we have are able to help their citizens flourish better than we can, it is a massive failure. There’s no other way to say it. We need to do better.

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Originally Posted by ULvictory

If I am denied something because of my ethnicity, then the heck with them. That's not a place I would want to work at to begin with because even if I was chosen, there is a built-in prejudice to which I want no association.

But again, what will not work is directly accepting someone just because of what they look like. That's dangerous territory. I'll take someone who is qualified regardless what he/she might look like. Just get the job done.

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I completely agree. The goal is to live in a world where we treat skin color like hair color. I don’t think policies like these help us reach that goal.

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Originally Posted by CajunRebel

I think we should aspire to be better than Venezuela.

We live one of in the richest countries in the world but we lag far behind most other first world countries when it comes to things like poverty, inequality, healthcare, education, etc. When countries with less resources than we have are able to help their citizens flourish better than we can, it is a massive failure. There’s no other way to say it. We need to do better.

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We come up short in a lot of these issues. What amazes me, though, is the fact that we point to all of our shortfalls but not to ourselves. And I say this from the top on down. We lack self-accountability in this country.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

I understand that the color of my skin has never gotten in the way of advancement.

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Your lackluster advancement probably has zero to do with the color of your skin.

But in 2020 the color of some people’s skin has costed them jobs regardless what the color is. I personally witnessed white men not getting hired until my company hired the right diversity. They were hired immediately after the diversity was met. I’m sure some great blacks were passed over because of the Jerry Baldwin stigma. The company had enough black people to meet the diversity goals, no need to take a Baldwin risk.

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Originally Posted by CajunRebel

I think we should aspire to be better than Venezuela.

We live one of in the richest countries in the world but we lag far behind most other first world countries when it comes to things like poverty, inequality, healthcare, education, etc. When countries with less resources than we have are able to help their citizens flourish better than we can, it is a massive failure. There’s no other way to say it. We need to do better.

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Amazingly our lower classes seem ignorant to those wonderful opportunities in those great countries. I’m all in for supplements to get them started in those many wonderful other countries.

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Originally Posted by ULvictory

Growing up as a kid, I had the distinct privilege of traveling to places in South America and Asia with my parents.

And I understand that our country doesn't always have the greatest past. But for someone to say how "bad" it is in this country compared to other places around the world, I challenge them to spend a week in some of the poorer countries and see what it's really like to have it bad. Go to Venezuela right now and see how "great" socialism has made their country.

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Originally Posted by ULvictory

We come up short in a lot of these issues. What amazes me, though, is the fact that we point to all of our shortfalls but not to ourselves. And I say this from the top on down. We lack self-accountability in this country.

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These CEO, and politicians all claim accountability yet never resign. The Japanese once knew about accountability. They’re the stuff of legends.

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Originally Posted by Ragin4U

So it just gets wiped away? A history of racial oppression is just gone. The Civil War ended 150 years ago. Black people legally gained the right to vote with the 15th Amendment and still had/have major issues exercising that basic right. Schools/bathrooms/water fountains were still segregated into the late 60s and early 70s. The freaking 1970's!!

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In this day and time, if someone is having a problem voting, it's more than likely because they are not doing what they need to do to vote legally or properly. Such as, obtaining a valid gov't issued I.D., actually going to the polls to pull the lever, having a criminal record that prevents them from legally voting, etc... As a matter of fact, what is more prevalent, is a certain group of people standing outside of polling places trying to influence voters or attempting to intimidate voters who may not see things the way they do (if you get my drift). As far as schools/bathrooms/water fountains go, when was the last time you have seen any kid (black/white/red/green) denied entry to schooling or the use of a bathroom or water fountain? If you have witnessed any such act, where was it and did you report it to the proper authorities?

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Originally Posted by CajunRebel

Thanks. So I read through both of those statements and I don’t see anything

You can agree or disagree with the policies they are implementing (I actually disagree with a lot of them,) but what you can’t do is put words in their mouth. They clearly didn’t say anything in support of Marxism, “programming of students,” renaming facilities, or “social disorder.” I don’t understand why you feel the need to make dishonest statements like that against our University and our President.

If you want to know why I ask you for sources, this is why. A lot of what you say when it comes to politics is simply not based in truth.

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So please tell me what is the meaning of "decolonizing our curriculum by requiring all English majors to take a course designated as Race & Ethnic Studies, by making introductory and advanced courses in Race & Ethnic Studies part of our core course offerings, and by continuing to expand these offerings as we move forward."

We've seen what these Race & Ethnic Studies have mean't under the so-called Diversity Doctrine on college campuses all across this country. This has nothing to to do with Diversity of thought, but indoctrination. Decolonizing? Removing "Meaning White Centric" History, or American History to express a historical view that is less insulting to their political views and goals. New Teaching Decolonization.

https://www.historians.org/publicati...rce-collection

"We will establish an anti-racist reading group for interested students, staff, and faculty; invite student participation on key departmental committees, including the Diversity committee and the English Majors committee; and create a mechanism through which students can safely and confidentially offer feedback about instances of racism and exclusion in the classroom and about our efforts to address inequities."

So under these types of initiatives we've already seen a number of literary works removed from campus libraries like "Uncle Tom's Cabin", Mark Twain's works such as Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Harper Lee's novel "To Kill A Mockingbird".

"Diversity Committee and the UL Office for Campus Diversity to educate ourselves on anti-racist and decolonizing pedagogies and practices, to better understand how our pedagogies relate to the goals of justice movements, and to institute faculty workshops that encourage the implementation of pedagogical theory as classroom practice."

Again this is part of re-educating and indoctrination in education. The term of "decolonizing has been used often to the Marxist Movement. I can go on, but if you have no studied the Marxist Movement and it's goals, or cared to keep yourself informed on current events you probably that understand these initiatives. I'm don't know what is more concerning, that fact that you do not know what these types initiatives are, or that you haven't a clue of what it means.

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Originally Posted by Duggie35

In this day and time, if someone is having a problem voting, it's more than likely because they are not doing what they need to do to vote legally or properly. Such as, obtaining a valid gov't issued I.D., actually going to the polls to pull the lever, having a criminal record that prevents them from legally voting, etc... As a matter of fact, what is more prevalent, is a certain group of people standing outside of polling places trying to influence voters or attempting to intimidate voters who may not see things the way they do (if you get my drift). As far as schools/bathrooms/water fountains go, when was the last time you have seen any kid (black/white/red/green) denied entry to schooling or the use of a bathroom or water fountain? If you have witnessed any such act, where was it and did you report it to the proper authorities?

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I doubt it, that would put him or her over 55 years of age. I'm 56 and was attending class in desegregated schools beginning in 1970 at JW Faulk. I've never attend a segregated school in my life, in fact living on the Northside of Lafayette I never attended a school that was less than 60-40 white to minority ratio. I doubt seriously if he or she has ever experienced that reality. So if there were schools still segregated in 1970, it wasn't in Lafayette.