TREVOR BEGUE

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Originally Posted by GATOR GRUNT

C'mon man. I was being sarcastic. My point was, there is talent in the Acadiana area. It just seems like we either not interested or miss out. I have NO reason why. However, we do get plenty from Mississippi. My eyeball test on some of those recruits were about to detach my retinas.

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But there are people who are legitimately ____ed off that these 2 weren't offered. This thing is a 2 way street...some of these local coaches expect the home town team to take kids that either don't want, don't fit or we would be their only FBS offer. There is a lot of local talent, there is a lot of local talent who think they are too good for this school as well. There is a lot of local talent who sit with their families during the holidays dressed head to tie in purple and yellow being told they are too good for ULL. We still fight a small time perception locally. We have offered several local athletes who go elsewhere. It's easy to point out the misses like Dugas...but there are plenty we wanted, offered but they didn't want us. For every Dugas story, there are 5 others we don't offer that go on to do nothing of impact at other places but nobody brings those up, probably because they don't know about them.

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

But there are people who are legitimately ____ed off that these 2 weren't offered. This thing is a 2 way street...some of these local coaches expect the home town team to take kids that either don't want, don't fit or we would be their only FBS offer. There is a lot of local talent, there is a lot of local talent who think they are too good for this school as well. There is a lot of local talent who sit with their families during the holidays dressed head to tie in purple and yellow being told they are too good for ULL. We still fight a small time perception locally. We have offered several local athletes who go elsewhere. It's easy to point out the misses like Dugas...but there are plenty we wanted, offered but they didn't want us. For every Dugas story, there are 5 others we don't offer that go on to do nothing of impact at other places but nobody brings those up, probably because they don't know about them.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by swampy

I wonder if Comeaux High's Brandon Stokley would have passed the Eye ball test! Probably Not

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I'm guessing he would not be offered today. As a previous poster has said, we have slot receivers. Why would we want another local yocal, so and so's son type guy taking up space on the roster?

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Originally Posted by swampy

I wonder if Comeaux High's Brandon Stokley would have passed the Eye ball test! Probably Not

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well brandon walked on, so there goes that argument.

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Originally Posted by swampy

I wonder if Comeaux High's Brandon Stokley would have passed the Eye ball test! Probably Not

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And no Fred Stamps or any of the other great receivers we've had in the past.

Wayde Butler?

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Originally Posted by GATOR GRUNT

Well we do have an SEC QB commitment in our back yard. Guess we shouldn't make a run at him either huh?

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Nope. Not at all. One he does not fit our system. Second, baggage. In fact, I'd be disappointed if our staff even thought about him. If you need an explanation, you're obviously a troll. Sorry you are so ____ hurt.

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

Nope. Not at all. One he does not fit our system. Second, baggage. If you need an explanation, you're obviously a troll. Sorry you are so ____ hurt.

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Of course he wouldn't fit our system. But don't act like we don't have talent in our area. But it sounds like you are a professional college talent scout, so go solve our teams problems. Or, maybe you have been consulting huh dip<p>. Bwahahahahaha
No <i><font size="1">-fumble-</font></i> here dip. Have absolutely no reason to. I was one that always said that I trust our coaches to make the right decisions when it comes to recruiting. I've been to many practices and I do see alot of good athletes that I like alot. Just didn't carry on to the field for sure this year.

As far as I know we offered that QB currently committed to the SEC

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

As far as I know we offered that QB currently committed to the SEC

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Wow. You better careful, Mr. Professional Zoom might correct you. He apparently knows every thing.

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Originally Posted by GATOR GRUNT

Of course he wouldn't fit our system. But don't act like we don't have talent in our area. But it sounds like you are a professional college talent scout, so go solve our teams problems. Or, maybe you have been consulting huh dip<p>. Bwahahahahaha
No ____ hurt here dip. Have absolutely nor reason to. I was one that always said that I trust our coaches to make the right decisions when it comes to recruiting. I've been to many practices and I do see alot of good athletes that I like alot. Just didn't carry on to the field for sure this year.

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I answered your specific question. Then you duck out claiming you knew and change the topic.

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

But there are people who are legitimately ____ed off that these 2 weren't offered. This thing is a 2 way street...some of these local coaches expect the home town team to take kids that either don't want, don't fit or we would be their only FBS offer. There is a lot of local talent, there is a lot of local talent who think they are too good for this school as well. There is a lot of local talent who sit with their families during the holidays dressed head to tie in purple and yellow being told they are too good for ULL. We still fight a small time perception locally. We have offered several local athletes who go elsewhere. It's easy to point out the misses like Dugas...but there are plenty we wanted, offered but they didn't want us. For every Dugas story, there are 5 others we don't offer that go on to do nothing of impact at other places but nobody brings those up, probably because they don't know about them.

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I am not one that believes we should offer Begue or Bellamy. But our only QB recruit to date for 2016 only has 1-offer, at any level, and that is us. Since a kid only has 1 offer, does that truly mean anything?

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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom

If the purpose of this thread is to promote Begue, RP probably isn't the site for this. It's been posted on multiple occasions, the Cajuns are not recruiting him. Unless the Cajun staff sees RP as the most advanced authority on who to recruit, hire, and design master plans, we are ALL (myself included) farts in a windstorm.

As far as STM's QB, not happening either. For multiple reasons. Doesn't take a Mensa card to figure that one out.

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Originally Posted by Cajun fan1

I am not one that believes we should offer Begue or Bellamy. But our only QB recruit to date for 2016 only has 1-offer, at any level, and that is us. Since a kid only has 1 offer, does that truly mean anything?

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Jake has been committed for a year and wants to come here, maybe he has closed his recruiting and told other coaches don't bother. My point is, to everyone for hammering HUD for not offering these 2 kids, apparently not many other FBS coaches think they translate well. Does anyone know if either of the kids want to come here? There are only so many spots in a class, only so many of those slots are for certain positions. With hasck transferring and if Nixon moves to RB, we still will have 6 QB's on the roster next year as of now. We will have 18 WR's on the roster next year as of now. The needs of a team, the numbers, is Begue or Bellamy better than what they have committed? Do they fit? It's not as simple as everyone makes it out to be. We need help and depth on the lines and in the secondary right now. If Begue was a senior last year or next year, he may have fit into the plan. We will never know but people that are too close to a certain school or certain kid can't see it without bias which is somewhat understandable but there is a lot that goes into filling that board in February than people realize.

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Originally Posted by Bicky Rustle

You are obviously an STM homer with that foolish statement.

The QB is committed to Henderson st. The day we start competing with Henderson st for talent we are in trouble.

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I hate when people call people "Homer" for no reason. Let's look at the original post.

"Was told by both Luke Johnson and Buckley that Trevor isn't what Hud is looking for......"

I can see why--ALL he does is get open and make catches!! Smh."

He simply informed us that two people who know Begue say he is not what the Cajuns are looking for. He never said "Hud needs to look at more STM kids" or made any other reference to STM.

"I can see why--ALL he does is get open and make catches!! Smh."

Nicely placed shot at Hud. Most of us wish we had thought of it first.

JMO, he should've also offered Bellamy, as well!!

Gave his opinion, probably from his observation, that Bellamy would be a good QB for the Cajuns. My personal opinion is that at the college level that Bellamy would have trouble seeing down field, but from my personal observation he does have great skills.

Now we look at your post:
"You are obviously an STM homer with that foolish statement."

Would it be fair for us to assume that you are an STM hater?

"The QB is committed to Henderson st. The day we start competing with Henderson st for talent we are in trouble."

Prior to your making that post Will had back out of Henderson State. By the way, Henderson State is a fine school in several academic areas. Perhaps he was considering a field there they are really good and he thought perhaps he could play football at the same time. Perhaps he realized he could not play for a top level power five school so he wanted to go somewhere that could win a national championship, even if it was not at the highest level.

Now let's not make statements like "he is an STM homer". That is just uncalled for.

By the way, you were punished in that I put your quotes in PURPLE. I don't know of anything worse I could do on a UL fan board!!!

Hud does not go after local kids for the most part, and word is that many of the local coaches do not care for Hud's style of coaching or like Hud as a person. The same is true of coaches in other sports at UL.

Notice the success of the sports where they do go after local kids (specifically baseball and softball). Enough said!

Old Alumn Strong as Garlic!!!!

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Originally Posted by crazycajun

As far as I know we offered that QB currently committed to the SEC

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But keep in mind that if Haack didn't fit Hud's system, I'm not sure why some think that guy would. Apparently unless something would change, it would be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole again.

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Originally Posted by Cajun fan1

I am not one that believes we should offer Begue or Bellamy. But our only QB recruit to date for 2016 only has 1-offer, at any level, and that is us. Since a kid only has 1 offer, does that truly mean anything?

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He has a daddy with a very deep pocket book, that helps tremendously.

No disrespect to Ascension QB but I have seen both of them play now for years. Bellamy is head and shoulders better. NOT even close.

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Originally Posted by Duggie35

But keep in mind that if Haack didn't fit Hud's system, I'm not sure why some think that guy would. Apparently unless something would change, it would be like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole again.

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thats another discussion, but we did offer him, to infer we didn't would be incorrect.

I know nothing about HS talent in our area like you guys do. I have seen this exact argument - that we overlook local talent - for many decades prior to Hud. I wanted the "new UL" to attract the better talent in the area (those that no one could disagree with). If local coaches and top talent are still shafting us... I really don't know the answer. I think Hud wants to see the absolute best in our area to forego other offers and help elevate our program.

I can tell you younger guys that we have 1000 local athletes from days gone by that still think they were "good enough" for UL. I knew 3 HS standouts that walked on to UL and thought they'd light the team on fire. They couldn't make it through the first days of workouts. And they couldn't believe how bad ___ the athletes were that are on our team.

Since this subject has so many layers of BS with it... my personal litmus test is what other offers these athletes have. Screw the local HS coaches that think we should take one of their athletes that can't get any other FBS offers. But I also think Hud should give tryouts to those that local coaches feel strongly about. And to be asked to walk on when you aren't being recruited heavily by other FBS programs... is an honor. If you're that good, you'll win out and win a scholarship. If you aren't that fired up about UL, move on.

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Originally Posted by oldalum

I hate when people call people "Homer" for no reason. Let's look at the original post.

"Was told by both Luke Johnson and Buckley that Trevor isn't what Hud is looking for......"

I can see why--ALL he does is get open and make catches!! Smh."

He simply informed us that two people who know Begue say he is not what the Cajuns are looking for. He never said "Hud needs to look at more STM kids" or made any other reference to STM.

"I can see why--ALL he does is get open and make catches!! Smh."

Nicely placed shot at Hud. Most of us wish we had thought of it first.

JMO, he should've also offered Bellamy, as well!!

Gave his opinion, probably from his observation, that Bellamy would be a good QB for the Cajuns. My personal opinion is that at the college level that Bellamy would have trouble seeing down field, but from my personal observation he does have great skills.

Now we look at your post:
"You are obviously an STM homer with that foolish statement."

Would it be fair for us to assume that you are an STM hater?

"The QB is committed to Henderson st. The day we start competing with Henderson st for talent we are in trouble."

Prior to your making that post Will had back out of Henderson State. By the way, Henderson State is a fine school in several academic areas. Perhaps he was considering a field there they are really good and he thought perhaps he could play football at the same time. Perhaps he realized he could not play for a top level power five school so he wanted to go somewhere that could win a national championship, even if it was not at the highest level.

Now let's not make statements like "he is an STM homer". That is just uncalled for.

By the way, you were punished in that I put your quotes in PURPLE. I don't know of anything worse I could do on a UL fan board!!!

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First of all every comment you made about Begue was a waste of your time and energy obviously my response was directly aimed at the Bellamy comment. Do you think if Bellamy played at a school out side of Acadiana anyone would be suggesting we should offer a kid who only had one offer from Henderson state? I think we all know the answer. That is why I used the word homer because STM is in our home town and that's the only reason anyone suggest we should offer him. I have nothing against the kid but that is a prime example of a kid that is not recruited by anyone and the locals (homers) get mad because the Cajuns didn't offer. It happens all the time here.

The best way to immediately judge a recruiting class is who else offered and or had serious interest in the kid. I don't know of any other offers the kid holds now but Henderson st is not the recutting company we want to keep. Homer.

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Originally Posted by swampy

No disrespect to Ascension QB but I have seen both of them play now for years. Bellamy is head and shoulders better. NOT even close.

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I see it completely opposite.

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Originally Posted by oldalum

Hud does not go after local kids for the most part, and word is that many of the local coaches do not care for Hud's style of coaching or like Hud as a person. The same is true of coaches in other sports at UL.

Notice the success of the sports where they do go after local kids (specifically baseball and softball). Enough said!

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Softball and baseball both get most of their players from outside the acadiana area.