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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Tripple Threat
_ That's exactly what I was thinking. If the University was to come out and "he's our guy for next season", that would emply that the thought was there to let him go. I'd be surprised to see them do that...They should at least put a fire under his ass and make it known publicly that his contract will not be renewed if next years results are _____e. (It would be an a** ho** move, but I'm just say'n). _
That would be totally unacceptable and I hope doesn't happen. UL will lose a lot of fans if they keep him another year, including me, for basketball. That would also be indicative of no changes over the previous administration and would be a morale killer for alumni and fans, not to mention the negative effect on recruiting.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
_ That would be totally unacceptable and I hope doesn't happen. UL will lose a lot of fans if they keep him another year, including me, for basketball. That would also be indicative of no changes over the previous administration and would be a morale killer for alumni and fans, not to mention the negative effect on recruiting. _
These are the reasons why I would bet a good bit of money that he will be let go in the near future.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
Should he be fired? Yes.
Will he be fired? No.
And with that, I move on and look forward to the 2009-2010 season.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Rebel02
_ Should he be fired? Yes.
Will he be fired? No.
You really think so?? I understand the economy is really bad, but wow. If we don't make a move we risk doing the same thing to basketball that was done to football a decade ago. :(
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
It's been TOO long since we went to the dance.
YES
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Rebel02
_ Should he be fired? Yes.
Will he be fired? No.
And with that, I move on and look forward to the 2009-2010 season. _
I'll bet you $5 Lee gets the axe.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Rebel02
_ Should he be fired? Yes.
Will he be fired? No.
And with that, I move on and look forward to the 2009-2010 season. _
I think I agree which scares me...I'll looks forward to the 2010-2011 season because I will not watch a game next year.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
I don't know what to think will happen. I know he needs to go, but on the other hand, this university gives me NO reason to believe that they will actually go through with this tough decision.
Will believe it when I see it!!
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
The sad thing is that we are even having this discussion. Whats even sadder than that is that we are part of an thletic dept with the second highest student body enrollment in the state and we cant afford to buy one year of a coaches contract. To me that is unexceptable. Until we can afford to run an athletic dept, we will continue to be mediocre athletic dept. I see this as a domino effect throughout the entire athletic dept.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
lifetimecajun
_ The sad thing is that we are even having this discussion. Whats even sadder than that is that we are part of an thletic dept with the second highest student body enrollment in the state and we cant afford to buy one year of a coaches contract. To me that is unexceptable. Until we can afford to run an athletic dept, we will continue to be mediocre athletic dept. I see this as a domino effect throughout the entire athletic dept. _
Unfortunately, this will be the case for the most part because we are hampered by the lack of state funds provided. We cannot buy coach Lee out with funds appropriated through the state meaning his buyout along with Errol Rodgers buyout would have to come through private funding. So for everyone out there that continues to bang on the administration, it is actually going to come down to how many of us put up and shut up about the administrations lack of guts in such matters.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
What if we fire Lee and then keep Labado on as the head coach on a 1 year contract for his current salary? I'm sure he would take it w/ the oportunity to become head coach in the near future. This way we end up saving money and kind of please people w/ a coaching change. I was hoping to fire Lee midseason b/c I wanted to see what Labado could do as interim. I think this would somewhat please the fans who simply want Lee out. You never know.....he could be a diamond in the rough!!!
Thoughts?
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
_ I'll take your list and paste it into mine. Any high school coach hire is a bad move. If the private funding is there to help buy him out, then we can spend some money on a decent coach. _
I would agree with you on this one. I do not want a HS or AAU coach. I want someone who is either lower level head coach w/ a strong winning record or a top asst. currently at a good program.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
CajunCanaille
_ What if we fire Lee and then keep Labado on as the head coach on a 1 year contract for his current salary? I'm sure he would take it w/ the oportunity to become head coach in the near future. This way we end up saving money and kind of please people w/ a coaching change. I was hoping to fire Lee midseason b/c I wanted to see what Labado could do as interim. I think this would somewhat please the fans who simply want Lee out. You never know.....he could be a diamond in the rough!!!
Thoughts? _
That might work for some people but I want the whole staff gone...they are all part of the problem.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Clutch0364
_ That might work for some people but I want the whole staff gone...they are all part of the problem. _
The only thing is that we hear things about Lee in particular. Of course these are rumors that may or may not hold water. But I have heard that Lee doesn't really give the assts. the opportunity to do much at practice. Like I said before...I wish we would have fired Lee midseason and given Labado his shot then. At least if we do fire Lee and keep Labado on a a 1 year fix, we only have one year of a low dollar commitment. To me it's equivalent to an MLB team signing an injury prone player. Low dollar / possible high upside. A possible low risk / high reward situation.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
CajunCanaille
_ What if we fire Lee and then keep Labado on as the head coach on a 1 year contract for his current salary? I'm sure he would take it w/ the oportunity to become head coach in the near future. This way we end up saving money and kind of please people w/ a coaching change. I was hoping to fire Lee midseason b/c I wanted to see what Labado could do as interim. I think this would somewhat please the fans who simply want Lee out. You never know.....he could be a diamond in the rough!!!
Thoughts? _
At this time, I don't think that is the move either. You are promoting a man who has shown nothing in the D-1 ranks as to whether he can coach or not and you aren't improving anything. I'm not saying Lebato would not be a good candidate in a couple of years but this program can do better.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
CajunCanaille
What if we fire Lee and then keep Labado on as the head coach on a 1 year contract for his current salary? I'm sure he would take it w/ the oportunity to become head coach in the near future. This way we end up saving money and kind of please people w/ a coaching change. I was hoping to fire Lee midseason b/c I wanted to see what Labado could do as interim. I think this would somewhat please the fans who simply want Lee out. You never know.....he could be a diamond in the rough!!!
Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by
CajunCanaille
_ I would agree with you on this one. I do not want a HS or AAU coach. I want someone who is either lower level head coach w/ a strong winning record or a top asst. currently at a good program. _
I didn't think it was possible for someone to contradict themselves in consecutive posts.
I think that some of the more recent posts in this thread have implied a lack of confidence in the Administration, give enough reason to make a change, performace on the court notwithstanding. Something should be done to build confidence in the fans, and let them know, along with former fans and potential fans, that things have changed. They need to do something to establish a winning attitude around here.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
_ At this time, I don't think that is the move either. You are promoting a man who has shown nothing in the D-1 ranks as to whether he can coach or not and you aren't improving anything. I'm not saying Lebato would not be a good candidate in a couple of years but this program can do better. _
But there is a possibility that we can't due to financial restraints. Like someone mentioned earlier, I'm just scared that we satisfy everyone and fire Lee, then turn around and hire some local HS guy or some other bad coach. Both in my opinion are worse or equal hires to Lebato.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
zephyr
_ At this time, I don't think that is the move either. You are promoting a man who has shown nothing in the D-1 ranks as to whether he can coach or not and you aren't improving anything. I'm not saying Lebato would not be a good candidate in a couple of years but this program can do better. _
I agree, I don't want to hope on the future success of Cajuns BBall, rather I want the university to plan for it.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Cajunsmike
_ Decision may be made today with the public being informed tomorrow. _
Have you heard anything Cajunsmike...the tease yesterday got my hopes up lol
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
CajunCanaille
_ But there is a possibility that we can't due to financial restraints. Like someone mentioned earlier, I'm just scared that we satisfy everyone and fire Lee, then turn around and hire some local HS guy or some other bad coach. Both in my opinion are worse or equal hires to Lebato. _
Didn't LA Tech fire their football coach and bring in a new guy, made him the AD as well as Head Football Coach, paid him something like $500,000, AND pay off the fired coach? Surely if a school like LA Tech in the backwoods of N. Louisiana with a small fan base and way too many expenses to stay in the WAC could do it, the so-called sleeping giant of ours can find a way to pay off Lee and Rogers AND hire good replacement coaches. They weren't supposed to be competitive and surely couldn't survive in the WAC with the added expenses. As I recall, this new coach took LA Tech to a bowl game in his first year. Why are we minimally not competitive with them? The statement UL makes in firing Lee (and Rogers) or keeping them for another year will say everything we need to know about this university's committment to excellence in athletics. And, it will be the rallying point or dropping off point for most people in further support of UL.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
_ Didn't LA Tech fire their football coach and bring in a new guy, made him the AD as well as Head Football Coach, paid him something like $500,000, AND pay off the fired coach? Surely if a school like LA Tech in the backwoods of N. Louisiana with a small fan base and way too many expenses to stay in the WAC could do it, the so-called sleeping giant of ours can find a way to pay off Lee and Rogers AND hire good replacement coaches. They weren't supposed to be competitive and surely couldn't survive in the WAC with the added expenses. As I recall, this new coach took LA Tech to a bowl game in his first year. Why are we minimally not competitive with them? The statement UL makes in firing Lee (and Rogers) or keeping them for another year will say everything we need to know about this university's committment to excellence in athletics. And, it will be the rallying point or dropping off point for most people in further support of UL. _
It was Dooley's 2nd year as head coach at La Tech and he became the AD in his 2nd year.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Clutch0364
_ Have you heard anything Cajunsmike...the tease yesterday got my hopes up lol _
I have not heard anything. I did not intend to tease anyone yesterday. That was only my prediction as to what would happen-I had no inside knowledge.. I am as clueless as the rest of you as to where this decision stands at this moment.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
_ Didn't LA Tech fire their football coach and bring in a new guy, made him the AD as well as Head Football Coach, paid him something like $500,000, AND pay off the fired coach? Surely if a school like LA Tech in the backwoods of N. Louisiana with a small fan base and way too many expenses to stay in the WAC could do it, the so-called sleeping giant of ours can find a way to pay off Lee and Rogers AND hire good replacement coaches. They weren't supposed to be competitive and surely couldn't survive in the WAC with the added expenses. As I recall, this new coach took LA Tech to a bowl game in his first year. Why are we minimally not competitive with them? The statement UL makes in firing Lee (and Rogers) or keeping them for another year will say everything we need to know about this university's committment to excellence in athletics. And, it will be the rallying point or dropping off point for most people in further support of UL. _
As someone said earlier, this was Dooley's 2nd year as a head coach at Tech. They wer 4 and 8 his first year. In the regular season this year, they were 7 and 5 with one of the wins over a 1AA squad. Therefore they had the same no. of 1A wins we did this past year prior to the bowl. Your point is well taken however in that they are doing OK financially. They have a sugar daddy propping up their program. We need to find one (preferably several) of those.
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
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Originally Posted by
Cajunsmike
_ I have not heard anything. I did not intend to tease anyone yesterday. That was only my prediction as to what would happen-I had no inside knowledge.. I am as clueless as the rest of you as to where this decision stands at this moment. _
Just joking around with you....just getting a little ancy these days lol
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Re: Should Coach Lee Be Fired?
I was thinking about this situation and I encourage those of you that want lee gone and are basketball season ticket holders...
Email the AD and the assistant AD. Let them know that you will not renew your season tickets should Lee be retained.
That may be the only way.