Super Regionals

seems like so many things were wrong with the ump on that one play, I don't know where to begin!

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Originally Posted by CajunPride

Did anyone notice the bad call against CC on the bunt play in the top of the ninth. The umpire called the bunter safe and he never touched the base which was verified on instant replay. Without the safe call, any fielder could have picked up ball and touched Fraley for the out. LSU probably does not score. Going back to the inside the park homer call in the regional, all close or controversial plays went to the tigers.

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the ump is supposed to give a safe call there because at the time (time of the would be tag/collision) he was safe. its like a home plate umpire signalling safe if the tag is not applied after a dropped third strike.

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Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns

the ump is supposed to give a safe call there because at the time (time of the would be tag/collision) he was safe. its like a home plate umpire signalling safe if the tag is not applied after a dropped third strike.

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eta: it is the responsibility of the second baseman to grab the ball and go touch first base, or tag the runner. the second baseman never did that.

eta 2: im glad it didnt have an impact on the outcome of the game and that coastal was able to hold on. LSU needs to lose everytime they step on the field.

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Originally Posted by GeauxCajuns

the ump is supposed to give a safe call there because at the time (time of the would be tag/collision) he was safe. its like a home plate umpire signalling safe if the tag is not applied after a dropped third strike.

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I always understood that the umpire should watch the base and see exactly when the runner's foot touches the base. At the same time you listen for the ball to hit the glove. I would like to hear from a real umpire( which I am not) if he should call safe without ever touching the base.

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Originally Posted by CajunPride

I always understood that the umpire should watch the base and see exactly when the runner's foot touches the base. At the same time you listen for the ball to hit the glove. I would like to hear from a real umpire( which I am not) if he should call safe without ever touching the base.

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im saying he was safe in regards to a tag being applied. the ball flew out of the glove, therefore he was safe because no tag was applied. i do realize he didnt touch the bag, but he went back to the bag after he got up and the second baseman went and grabbed the ball and walked back over without tagging him or touching the bag with the ball in his glove.

Had blue not blown the call he'd have bee tagged out by that second baseman as he was not attempting to do anything except wiggle like a worm cut in half.

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Originally Posted by CajunPride

I always understood that the umpire should watch the base and see exactly when the runner's foot touches the base. At the same time you listen for the ball to hit the glove. I would like to hear from a real umpire( which I am not) if he should call safe without ever touching the base.

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I would say the timing of the safe call was correct, but the call itself was wrong because fielder made the out. On a force play the ball does not have to be held as long as on a tag play or a catch of a fly ball. Voluntary release is not required in this instance

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Originally Posted by MelRock

The difference is 80% of your post are about the sec or some other conspiracy with espn@bristol. Take the tinfoil off and enjoy life.

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At least im not posting on tigerdroppings or laturd sites unlike djdawg on here!

I don't think the safe call was correct at all.

The fielder didn't have possession of the ball. The batter-runner never touched first base. The umpire just should have stood there until one or the other happened.

The safe sign was given because the ball was jarred loose from the fielder. That was wrong. Umpire totally missed the fact the batter runner never touched first.

This was a force play,therefore fielder not required to tag the batter-runner