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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
It doesn't have to be one or the other. We can have great academic success and great athletic success at the same time. We can emulate a university like Michigan rather than LSU.
True but has to start somewhere. A lot of athletic donors are steered towards donating to academics.
One of the schools greatest supporters made his first donation ever, to athletics.
Ambassador Caffery... before he was Ambassador.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
True but has to start somewhere. A lot of athletic donors are steered towards donating to academics.
One of the schools greatest supporters made his first donation ever, to athletics.
Ambassador Caffery... before he was Ambassador.
I will repeat my post under App Attendance. It seems relevant here. Universities with highly successful athletics, particularly football, get major boosts in enrollment, attendance and donations (academic and athletic). National prominence in football gives rise to national attention to overall success of the university. UL needs promotion of football on the scale of Hud's promotion, then watch the change in dynamics.
Maybe we need an RCAF Director like Hud to recapture Acadiana. Do we even have an RCAF Director? It is not in Des' personality to be like Hud. Neither was Napier. Both are proof that winning alone does not increase excitement about UL football and related attendance. We need someone to promote UL and get back the excitement we once had under Hud.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
LSU Bob
For Kyren Lacy
Thanks for taking him. We don't have to deal with him anymore.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
To that end, nothing happens academically without advertising.
Nothing.
Are athletics the only advertising available?
For a university that is trying to establish academics, is it the best advertising?
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
I will repeat my post under App Attendance. It seems relevant here. Universities with highly successful athletics, particularly football, get major boosts in enrollment, attendance and donations (academic and athletic). National prominence in football gives rise to national attention to overall success of the university. UL needs promotion of football on the scale of Hud's promotion, then watch the change in dynamics.
Maybe we need an RCAF Director like Hud to recapture Acadiana. Do we even have an RCAF Director? It is not in Des' personality to be like Hud. Neither was Napier. Both are proof that winning alone does not increase excitement about UL football and related attendance. We need someone to promote UL and get back the excitement we once had under Hud.
"A boost in enrollment... "
Is that the only way to boost enrollment?
What kind of students does that boost bring in?
Is that the way that a serious academic institution wants to boost its enrollment?
We have passed up the school with the largest enrollment in the state. We are on the outside looking in, but there is more and more anecdotal evidence, and even some hard evidence to suggest that maybe their priorities aren't all that healthy, and ours are.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
all advertisement is great . . . sporting events are great . . . coming here and harping on every single little thing that you are not satisfied with is apparently doing nothing to solve any of those issues . . . but boy it paints a horrible picture after each sporting event as to why not to go and to any to any prospective fan looking here to see if they want to venture to a Louisiana sporting event, buy season tickets or even donating . . .
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunFun
Are athletics the only advertising available?
For a university that is trying to establish academics, is it the best advertising?
We can do both. Establish academic standards while using athletic success to increase enrollment and market the school. When we play a nationally televised game on ESPN or make the postseason in a sport like basketball, there are millions of eyes who get to see "Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns" on their screen. A buddy of mine (who happens to post on here) and one who graduated at almost the top of his class from UL was inspired to attend the school when he watched the 2000 Omaha team as a kid.
I get that we are improving academics and that is awesome. But the perception of that outside of Acadiana is still not where it needs to be. We need athletics to help.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunFun
Are athletics the only advertising available?
For a university that is trying to establish academics, is it the best advertising?
Its not but I don't see any advertising educating the locals on what the true value (or meaning behind) having an R1 institution representing greater Louisiana.
Currently I feel the general public has no clue what Louisiana.edu means to their quality of life.
The ones who do know became interested through some other factor and dug deeper.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
all advertisement is great . . . sporting events are great . . . coming here and harping on every single little thing that you are not satisfied with is apparently doing nothing to solve any of those issues . . . but boy it paints a horrible picture after each sporting event as to why not to go and to any to any prospective fan looking here to see if they want to venture to a Louisiana sporting event, buy season tickets or even donating . . .
But that's not on the fan. We are also customers giving feedback like on Google Review. Hiding it makes it worse because it comes off as lying.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
ULvictory
But that's not on the fan. We are also customers giving feedback like on Google Review. Hiding it makes it worse because it comes off as lying.
let me know when you get a fan to attend by running down your universities events . . .
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
ULvictory
But that's not on the fan. We are also customers giving feedback like on Google Review. Hiding it makes it worse because it comes off as lying.
One of the things I like to do is look up reviews for local businesses that I don’t frequent. I then berate the people who leave negative reviews about hurting said business. I like to think I’m doing my part in helping Acadiana.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
ULvictory
But that's not on the fan. We are also customers giving feedback like on Google Review. Hiding it makes it worse because it comes off as lying.
Yup. Burying one's head in the sand like ostriches leaves what? A bunch of arses to look at.
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Going from we should allow anyone in so that everyone gets a shot to we have to be careful advertising with athletics because we don’t want to attract the wrong types should qualify someone for the mental gymnastics Olympics. I say go for gold.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
let me know when you get a fan to attend by running down your universities events . . .
The idea is to improve.
If you sweep areas that can be improved under the rug, the attendees who were oblivios will never return.
The hiding method guarantees one-and-done.
The fixing method creates fans for life.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
let me know when you get a fan to attend by running down your universities events . . .
But how is it the fan's fault for giving honest feedback?
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
I forgot what this thread was even about.
Something like don't pull for the Cajuns or some other bs.
Cajuns Football 5-1, time to put the beatdown on the east coast Covid Carolina.
Let's rock. 3-0 away this season. Hattiesburg, Winston-Salem and somewhere in north Georgia.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
ULvictory
But how is it the fan's fault for giving honest feedback?
It’s like grandma used to say, “if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all.” That’s why I don’t frequent local businesses at all. If I stay home, I don’t risk a negative experience that could tempt me into a negative review.
I commend all Louisiana supporters who don’t attend the games but instead warn others off of sharing feedback from the games. Support comes in many different shapes and forms!
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
let me know when you get a fan to attend by running down your universities events . . .
We "run down" on areas they need to improve, thus if they improve those areas more fans will attend.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
Its not but I don't see any advertising educating the locals on what the true value (or meaning behind) having an R1 institution representing greater Louisiana.
Currently I feel the general public has no clue what Louisiana.edu means to their quality of life.
The ones who do know became interested through some other factor and dug deeper.
One opportunity we have to showcase the academic achievements, beautiful campus and athletic facilities in a university commercial shown on every televised UL game locally and nationally and all we show is some girl doing ballet and hoping to go to college. This has been shown for at least 2 years now. What a golden opportunity lost.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
One opportunity we have to showcase the academic achievements, beautiful campus and athletic facilities in a university commercial shown on every televised UL game locally and nationally and all we show is some girl doing ballet and hoping to go to college. This has been shown for at least 2 years now. What a golden opportunity lost.
Just a sampling of the big picture that UL fails to see (and many that posts on this forum as well)
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
One opportunity we have to showcase the academic achievements, beautiful campus and athletic facilities in a university commercial shown on every televised UL game locally and nationally and all we show is some girl doing ballet and hoping to go to college. This has been shown for at least 2 years now. What a golden opportunity lost.
Very true. This is genuinely perplexing. Worst advertisement in the Belt.
I wanna explore.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
One opportunity we have to showcase the academic achievements, beautiful campus and athletic facilities in a university commercial shown on every televised UL game locally and nationally and all we show is some girl doing ballet and hoping to go to college. This has been shown for at least 2 years now. What a golden opportunity lost.
Well, by now she might be living her dream.
Somebody needs to get 71 on staff and get the heck out of the way and let him market the program. The wet behind the ears lazy hires and interns are not the route to success.
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
ZoomZoom
Well, by now she might be living her dream.
Somebody needs to get 71 on staff and get the heck out of the way and let him market the program. The wet behind the ears lazy hires and interns are not the route to success.
Appreciate it Zoom...
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
zeppelincajun
One of the things I like to do is look up reviews for local businesses that I don’t frequent. I then berate the people who leave negative reviews about hurting said business. I like to think I’m doing my part in helping Acadiana.
I LoL'd for real
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Re: Thanks Cajun brothers
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
let me know when you get a fan to attend by running down your universities events . . .
Introduce us to the myriad of people who decided they aren't gonna be a fan an aren't going to attend games because some people were critical on this forum. I think we'd all like to meet this ever growing crowd of people.
Also, how is it that you get all the fans to go to the games? Do you invite them to go with you. . . Oh wait, that's right. . . You don't go to the games. My bad.