I'm choosing the Pepper one in a heartbeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin9221
Having said that, the Pepper logo you chose to highlight was one of the original depictions. Cayenne went through a few adaptations since then.
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I'm choosing the Pepper one in a heartbeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin9221
Having said that, the Pepper logo you chose to highlight was one of the original depictions. Cayenne went through a few adaptations since then.
Looking at the jacket, there are no in game pictures of Cayenne in motion.
All the pictures are of the suit just standing around.
I will say this though Cayenne could have been real good with a "Raise Your Hands" cheer.
There are lots of pictures doing that.
Riiight....That "New Mexico" food sure is spicy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin9221
Who is more likely to do this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
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I could easily see that crazy Cayenne doing stuff like this. He's so Canaille!
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you must have been the pepperQuote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
Same pose as when he was standing vertical.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
Turn the picture sideways, its true. :)
New Mexico is known as the chile capital of the world and the hub of chile in the United States and North America. Chile peppers have been cultivated in the state's Rio Grande Valley for centuries and are a staple ingredient in many popular New Mexican dishes. The state's climate and soil type make it ideal for growing chile peppers, which are worth $60 million at harvest and quadruple in value after processing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
Hot pepper sauce made in NM
New Mexico hot sauce brands
El Bruno's
El Pinto
El Rancho De Los Garcia's
Fresh Chile Co
Fresh Hatch Chile
Hatch Chile Store
La Posta Chile
Los Roast
Santa Fe Seasons
Taos Hum
Not my point. Of course New MEXICO is gonna have spicy food. My point is that they are not the "go to" for spicy food references in the population. If you are making a movie, a TV show or a commercial, and you want to make a joke about spicy food, you are going to reference Cajun food/pepper/culture, not "New Mexico" food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragin9221
only because the real hot pepper sauce is founded and made in South Louisiana (Tobasco) but it still goes back to the ��️ . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
I think we are now criticizing the guy in the suit, not the character. To me, the Cayenne character would be much more conducive to being the Spirit Leader we need.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbine
Al has so much more opportunity to be great than the ��️Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
besides, the pepper ��️ is dead
I disagree that is what NM is known for, specially peppers. I have seen jokes when it comes to NM and spiceQuote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
You are probably right, didn't mean to.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
Here is part of the problem with the suit.
Cayenne could be spinning away on a lazy susan and you couldn't tell it was moving.
A snout is a must on a spirit leader.
Just turning its head shows activity.
Cajun Chicken had this advantage. Human mascots and Cayenne strike out in the appearance of activity department.
Cayenne was easy to make fun of... and this school, when faced with a choice of defending their decisions or pivoting to a new direction, has always opted to do nothing at all and pretend like nothing ever happened
They certainly didn't fight hard enough for him when they had legit reasons to do so. I think they are now resolved to do nothing. They know that any mascot/spirit leader they choose will get plenty of criticism because there is no right answer. To them, the best move is not to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxmc1023
They don't want the hassle of defending their selection.
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Burn in hell Cayenne. Wip-eeeeeee
There was nothing cajun about that mascot. Nothing. If you showed it to anyone outside of the school, who would say, "oh look, a Cajun man." No one is the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by billbeck451
Cayenne was a terrible mascot. It just looked terrible and scared children. The flaming d!ldo as many have called it
well, it’s confirmed, you were not CayenneQuote:
Originally Posted by JamesTheJeweler
Copying is the highest form of flattery. There’s certain things that can be done over and over again never getting old. Whatever the spirit leader is they need to use some of the Cajun Chicken tried and true skits. Paying off a zebra is funny no matter who does it. Of course they need to develop timing skills and personalities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Poppa
I think an important note to take from all the mascots you mentioned is their origin vs how Cayenne created. I encourage everyone to research the college mascots you admire and look at how they were adopted.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
Three out of the four mascots pictured were an individual effort by a students, or students, to bring entertainment to their peers. Once they won over the students, sometimes taking years, their admins adopted the character.
This is also one of my biggest criticisms of Cayenne. Hardly anyone can tell us exactly who came up with the character. And if they did know who came up with him, could they say where is that person now? Being unable to answer those questions led to the in-organic origin of Cayenne. So when he was put up on the chopping block, there was no one around that cared enough to save him.
I will never go back and forth with anyone's appreciation of Cayenne. I appreciate him to an extent. But the truth of the matter is, he's gone. He's gone because the fans did not like him enough to keep him. The work I'm putting into the next character is so that the majority of the fanbase will like him enough to keep him around; because he will be created organically.
Several of you have mentioned, "it's the person in the suit that makes the suit." That is true, but to an extent. Most university mascots are run by a small group of students, rather than just one. Together, they take shifts putting on the suit for different events. They would also be in charge of coming up with skits for the fanbase. You can think of them sort of like a school sketch comedy group.
The importance of entertainment and building out the character is why I wrote skits for Albineaux in the Phase 2 presentation.
#makeAlLouisianaMascot
Which Cayenne? The thing was a disaster even in the planning stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by CouillonCinema
Authément would sometimes drop small bombs when I spoke with him. One of them was, "I told them I wanted an image for the university. They brought back a sports logo." In their defense, what he was asking was way over their pay-grade, and even outside of their educational backgrounds.
The logos-- which as discussed, added yellow to our colors, with an explanation that it was 'vermilion'-- created a number of problems. The company who designed it for us did really nice 1- and 2-color logos for other colleges and a number of pro teams (Atlanta Hawks, Boston Bruins, quite a few others). I happened to run into one of the people who worked on our logo. He didn't have much nice to say. He explained that the people in charge kept insisting on 'something like the Saints... ' but with a lot of heat, and so they finally gave us this.
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It was a mess, looked like it should have been on the set of Grease. But we got our Saints logo.
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And remember this beauty? It was called a 'peelable,' something we could stick everywhere.
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And if you wish to know how little the graphics company thought of us, here is a screen-shot from their website, listing their clients:
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Also, there were the flame numbers that we paid for... they had to be retired, because they were illegible on our uniforms.
And with all that came Cayenne. Some of the locals objected; the word 'Cayenne' is from an Arawak word 'Guiana' (notice the similarities), and except that it became the name for French Guyana, it has no connection to us. In addition, it is an inaccurate stereotype of our food: traditionally Cajun/Creole cooking has a touch of pepper, but not much. This seemed to associate us with Mexican, Indian Vindaloo, Szechuan, and other cuisines.
Next, a mascot typically costs $8-10K. We spent $25K.
$10K of that came from the students, who were told they would be involved in the process, and meet with the designer. They were excluded. The SGA President at the time said she wanted their money back. I never found out what happened about that.
We hired a Disney artist and when the artist sent the design to the costumers, the latter reported that, as designed, it was impossible. Further comedies of error appeared along the way.
Anyway, here is the first Cayenne; despite an extensive search for I did years ago for a good photo, this was the best I found.
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He was quickly nick-named something we can't type here, but think of the cartoon bird named 'Woody.' When we played LSU that year, you can imagine the jokes built around that off-color nickname.
So there was $25K gone. Then they went to the second Cayenne, that opened this thread.
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Now, one of Authément's stipulations was that he wanted something that wouldn't scare the kids. This, however, scared the ever-lovin' merde out of the kids. I was taking my 5 year-old son to games; he got one eyeful of that thing, and spent the rest of the game whipping his head around, making sure it wasn't sneaking up behind him. Perhaps that's why he never really enjoyed going to games with me.
Finally, there is the third addition, slightly less "He-e-e-re's Johnny!!" looking, but still pretty bad.
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I have more stories to tell, but I gotta go.
The vast knowledge of CajunFun knows no bounds. :)
Man that is some good historical synopsis.
Thanks