Funny how the biggest critics of martin hall don't realize how hard martin hall would laugh at their applications if sent in today under the new standards
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Funny how the biggest critics of martin hall don't realize how hard martin hall would laugh at their applications if sent in today under the new standards
Contemplating that would be like Martin Hall laughing at the very foundation of their existenceQuote:
Originally Posted by RougaWhite&Blue
You and I have talked about this a number of years going back before Maggard was hired and some people laughed at us on RP. I thought the number that would eventually separate was around 40 or 50, but that number will be much less than that when it settles.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
And it appears teams can come and go. So there’s also a shout out to the fans of relegation. Well kinda.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunT
WoohooQuote:
Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
Well, since there will be no NCAA regulations if they separate. That would depend upon which regulations you are talking about. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
Well the Vanderbilts, Indianas, Kentuckys and others will soon want the same for MBB. That is how they will stay in the club.
They should just make the scholarships numbers cumulative and let schools decide which sports they want to focus on. If you want to have 85 football Walkons but 95 baseball scholarships so be it.
It won't keep those schools with the best football programs, that's what this separation is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
TV probably wants it narrowed down to about 32, a nice neat bracket. Just like the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunT
First, it should be said the NCAA should have allowed modest stipends to athletes years ago. Increasing $$ from freshman thru senior year. But not a socialistic stance that every athlete in every sport mens or womens gets the same $$. Non PC Alert: The proposal of 50% to women athletes is just asinine especially now with NCAA allowing men to declare their womanhood playing college athletics. Insanity. I've got two daughters that played track & field and swimming long ago so am all about girls having opportunities to play sports, too. But not at any cost to be all things to all people. The NCAA can collapse under the weight of its stupidity and social agenda for all I care.
From the most knowledgeable person I know about the business of collegiate athletics, Arkstfan, .....
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Baker's plan is DOA.
He's grasping trying to find a hook to get Congress to grant an anti-trust exemption and that ain't it.
The Power 5 now 4 crapped the nest.
You can wax poetic about the amateur nature of college athletics all you want but it's a hard sell when coaches make $10 million and assistants have hit $2 million. Who believes this is an amateur pursuit when hundreds of millions of dollars are plowed into facilities?
Schools are blowing through $150 million and more and it took losing lawsuit after lawsuit to just get players full cost of attendance and the right to profit from their name, image, and likeness. What did the beast do? The beast set up NIL "collectives" giant "tip jars" for fans. NOT THE $150 million enterprise, but the fans to pay the players. The schools turned the kids pro with the collectives because payment is not related to NIL but projected or established on field or on court value. They organize the scheme but don't use "their" money to fund it.
I used this example on our board.
St Jude's Children's Research Hospital is a leading childhood cancer research facility. They spend about $2 billion a year, roughly 10X what Texas A&M athletics spends. St. Jude has two people making more than $1 million, none make $2 million. If St Jude the charitable hospital and research facility was irresponsible paying salaries as Texas A&M's charitable foundation for athletics, it would be a massive national scandal.
Ain't no one in Congress or the courts coming to save college football until they do something HUGE to make it worth saving from a verdict that players are employees and the colleges have illegally conspired to suppress earnings of players.
Having second thoughts on this.
Looking at chatter on other boards and reading more on what the author of the proposal thinks, the number of schools being kicked around as being able to "opt-in" to this deal is closer to 100.
If that many schools are going to do this, I would want to be in that group.
This. This is devastating and will kill us fully and completely in every sport. We can’t compete in any sport with schools who are willing to drop a minimum of 30k per athlete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainman66
Relegation…like euro soccer standings.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunT
There is roughly 300 scholarship athletes at FBS programs. Nearly $10M per year in this proposal.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunNation
The minimum is 30k/person for HALF of the people you have. Anywhere from 6-8 mill is what people are throwing around. Again, the guy that wrote this proposal thinks around 100 schools would opt in to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by cajun4life
That would be the P5 plus Big East schools and a good portion of the MWC/AAC plus whoever else steps up like Liberty.
The proposal says they are creating another subdivision, but what they really are doing is moving the goal posts to be 1-A, FBS or whatever they want to call it.
I would hope we could stay with the service academies and most of the top G5 schools. I wouldn't want to be excluded from those schools.
Will we still be committed to being 1-A in every way?
. . . there will always be a need for the halves to get 3 or 4 easy wins . . .
The only way to do that is to access a student fee of $25/credit hour, capped at 12 hours.
If our student body was serious the. That’s the only way to go. But they of course would vote it down. Then on the off chance it would pass, T-Joe would cut the general fund transfer and auxiliary fees.
So the short answer would be, no we are not serious.