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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
Yeah that title of the article really ____ed me off.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
And who is to say we wouldn’t have taken a step back with Billy? You act as just because all teams lose players that it just doesn’t affect them? There are only about 5 teams in the country who never take steps back. Or they do take steps back but they still win.
Rice was a step back, ULM was freaking tumbling leap off the cliff against a team they had no business losing to.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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JMVCAJUNS
Me and Turbine and others don't give up posters handle. I have sources. I don’t reveal them, which is why I STILL have sources.
oh would you stop
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Turbine
Not even close to the issue.
Not even the question.
The issue and question is, when you consider the financial handcuffs placed on the program, what hire in the country that came in and made changes would UL be 4-0 with?
Napier is completely off the table and bringing him up is a red herring.
The difference is this hire wasn't a stranger to this team & all of the players & various other personnel. So the standard should be higher. So maybe UL doesn't skull drag ULM. They still gave away a conference game they were in complete control of against an inferior opponent. The only thing that could have made this worse would have been losing at home.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
My standards weren't as high as most people's were. I knew when I heard the prediction threads that people were getting way to overly excited. I thought UL would win between 7-9 games & be bowl eligible again & that would give Des a decent shot to really get started on doing his own thing. But watching the complete digression of this team over these past 4 weeks has shown me that Des is in danger of completely losing the team as well as the fan base.
Losing to ULM was an absolute no no. I don't care if the great Nick Saban did it his first season. He was taking over a team that had massive discipline issues & had been through one of the worst stretches of its football history. He also lost to the best QB ULM has ever had. That QB wasn't on the field last night. There was simply no excuse for what occurred. And with the tough part of the schedule coming up, there won't be any time for excuse making now.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
The difference is this hire wasn't a stranger to this team & all of the players & various other personnel. So the standard should be higher. So maybe UL doesn't skull drag ULM. They still gave away a conference game they were in complete control of against an inferior opponent. The only thing that could have made this worse would have been losing at home.
True but he is not Napier and doesn't have last years team to work with.
So when you say the "standard should be higher." Not higher than Napier but higher than some off the street hire.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Turbine
True but he is not Napier and doesn't have last years team to work with.
So when you say the "standard should be higher." Not higher than Napier but higher than some off the street hire.
That is correct. And he knew, or should have known that losing to ULM would bring massive criticism his way & deservedly so, especially after having a comfortable lead for most of the game. In short He blew it.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
That is correct. And he knew, or should have known that losing to ULM would bring massive criticism his way & deservedly so, especially after having a comfortable lead for most of the game. In short He blew it.
Two bad hikes and two snapped defensive plays blew it.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
JMVCAJUNS
Not true. Some private schools also struggle.
Maybe read it again.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
Maybe read it again.
Some private school have less money than public schools. No need to read it again.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
Rice was a step back, ULM was freaking tumbling leap off the cliff against a team they had no business losing to.
Billy needed ULM’s kicker to miss kicks at the end of 2 games and their kicker missed it both times. Billy skull drug ULM one time and barely beat them the other 3 times.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
JMVCAJUNS
Some private school have less money than public schools. No need to read it again.
Maybe if you read it a few more times
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
Billy needed ULM’s kicker to miss kicks at the end of 2 games and their kicker missed it both times. Billy skull drug ULM one time and barely beat them the other 3 times.
How many double digit leads did Billy relinquish in those games? You lose a game because you are outplayed by a better opponent, that is on the players. You lose a game because you allowed a team to come back in the fourth quarter from a double digit deficit, that is the coaching.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
How many double digit leads did Billy relinquish in those games?
I’m not justifying blowing a double digit lead but if any if you are “true fans” as you all like to claim and actually follow this program, you would know how these games with ULM almost always play out, and it’s hardly ever with one team convincingly beating the other. There has been like 4 lopsided wins in 20 years. If we would have hired anyone else, and they were 2-2…everyone would be “gotta give the guy time to do it his way” We hired one of our own and he is getting treated worse than any coach I can remember here after 5 games. It’s pathetic.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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NewsCopy
What was thought to be there for Louisiana may not be there in 2022. Why it's OK for expectations should shift for Cajuns moving forward.
Fake news.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Hudsheen#Fired
I promise you, we would be 4-0 with this same exact roster with Billy as coach
Unless you have some way he could have been retained under (or not under) current budget constraints, you failed to make a point.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
I’m not justifying blowing a double digit lead but if any if you are “true fans” as you all like to claim and actually follow this program, you would know how these games with ULM almost always play out, and it’s hardly ever with one team convincingly beating the other. There has been like 4 lopsided wins in 20 years. If we would have hired anyone else, and they were 2-2…everyone would be “gotta give the guy time to do it his way” We hired one of our own and he is getting treated worse than any coach I can remember here after 5 games. It’s pathetic.
Truth
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
I’m not justifying blowing a double digit lead but if any if you are “true fans” as you all like to claim and actually follow this program, you would know how these games with ULM almost always play out, and it’s hardly ever with one team convincingly beating the other. There has been like 4 lopsided wins in 20 years. If we would have hired anyone else, and they were 2-2…everyone would be “gotta give the guy time to do it his way” We hired one of our own and he is getting treated worse than any coach I can remember here after 5 games. It’s pathetic.
Well, it's all in how we look. Yes, it's that bad. We are just the observers, Des is the only one to make it better. Can he? Hmmmmm. Show us something.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
That is correct. And he knew, or should have known that losing to ULM would bring massive criticism his way & deservedly so, especially after having a comfortable lead for most of the game. In short He blew it.
You act like he wanted to blow it . . . You act like he was the snapper on the two bad snaps . . . You act like he dropped the passes . . . and on and on . . . It took all of these unfortunate occurrences for us to lose that game last night.
It’s time to strap it on and support our coaches and players. It’s all we have left at this time
GEAUX Cajuns . . .
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
I’m not justifying blowing a double digit lead but if any if you are “true fans” as you all like to claim and actually follow this program, you would know how these games with ULM almost always play out, and it’s hardly ever with one team convincingly beating the other. There has been like 4 lopsided wins in 20 years. If we would have hired anyone else, and they were 2-2…everyone would be “gotta give the guy time to do it his way” We hired one of our own and he is getting treated worse than any coach I can remember here after 5 games. It’s pathetic.
I disagree, not in this case. And there is a good reason for not giving Mike as much rope. The fact is anyone who would have taken over this program in the condition it was in even after Billy robbed the cupboard, the kitchen was still full of groceries. So what if there aren't any Slim Jims & Funyuns. There's a butt load of pancake mix, cornbread mix, eggs, milk, butter, cooking oil, Tony's you name it. So Billy took a couple of chips & some Reese's peanut butter cups. The only reason we are starving is because the next cook only knows how to make balogna sandwiches?
I hear where you're coming from about the closeness of the game. However, that only means that Mike's guys were in better shape than they have been in aa long time & they screwed the pooch. And everything that happened screamed out with blood curdling yells, I have no confidence. I have no confidence. THAT my friend is the difference right now between Billy & Mike. And it's the same freaking issue in New Orleans as well.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
You act like he wanted to blow it . . . You act like he was the snapper on the two bad snaps . . . You act like he dropped the passes . . . and on and on . . . It took all of these unfortunate occurrences for us to lose that game last night.
It’s time to strap it on and support our coaches and players. It’s all we have left at this time
GEAUX Cajuns . . .
Refer to my other previous post. I HAVE NO C0NFIDENCE. I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE. I HAVE NO CONFIDENCE!!!!!!!! That is a coaching problem plain & simple.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
CajunVic
You act like he wanted to blow it . . . You act like he was the snapper on the two bad snaps . . . You act like he dropped the passes . . . and on and on . . . It took all of these unfortunate occurrences for us to lose that game last night.
It’s time to strap it on and support our coaches and players. It’s all we have left at this time
GEAUX Cajuns . . .
And I'll tell you this also Ghost of Authement. The whole 2 QB thing. There's a reason why the whole cliche thing of if you have two QBs you have no QBs is a cliche. Because you aren't showing CONFIDENCE in either player. And without CONFIDENCE there is no ability to lead. Someone is gonna get their feelings hurt. But whether it's fair, or not, right, or not, Mike is gonna have to make a damn decision about WHO is gonna lead his team, or he isn't gonna have a team to lead in a couple of weeks. Got it?
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
I disagree, not in this case. And there is a good reason for not giving Mike as much rope. The fact is anyone who would have taken over this program in the condition it was in even after Billy robbed the cupboard, the kitchen was still full of groceries. So what if there aren't any Slim Jims & Funyuns. There's a butt load of pancake mix, cornbread mix, eggs, milk, butter, cooking oil, Tony's you name it. So Billy took a couple of chips & some Reese's peanut butter cups. The only reason we are starving is because the next cook only knows how to make balogna sandwiches?
I hear where you're coming from about the closeness of the game. However, that only means that Mike's guys were in better shape than they have been in aa long time & they screwed the pooch. And everything that happened screamed out with blood curdling yells, I have no confidence. I have no confidence. THAT my friend is the difference right now between Billy & Mike. And it's the same freaking issue in New Orleans as well.
You are comparing year 4 Billy to year 1 mike. Year 1 Billy went 7-7 and that wasn’t all because of the talent level. Billy learned some things the hard way his first year too. Billy is still learning. Not sure why Mike is expected to have it all figured out in the 5th game of his career. Glad you bring up the saints, it’s strange how people weren’t saying the things about Dennis Allen that they said about Mike. That Rita benson was too cheap to hire anyone else. That an NFL team would hire from within Is small time. They hired a guy with previous experience too, a horrible experience.
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
Bandwagon King
And I'll tell you this also Ghost of Authement. The whole 2 QB thing. There's a reason why the whole cliche thing of if you have two QBs you have no QBs is a cliche. Because you aren't showing CONFIDENCE in either player. And without CONFIDENCE there is no ability to lead. Someone is gonna get their feelings hurt. But whether it's fair, or not, right, or not, Mike is gonna have to make a damn decision about WHO is gonna lead his team, or he isn't gonna have a team to lead in a couple of weeks. Got it?
So, you don’t think we should support our coaches and players henceforth?
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Re: This isn't Billy Napier's Louisiana. Expectations should shift.
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Originally Posted by
crazycajun
You are comparing year 4 Billy to year 1 mike. Year 1 Billy went 7-7 and that wasn’t all because of the talent level. Billy learned some things the hard way his first year too. Billy is still learning. Not sure why Mike is expected to have it all figured out in the 5th game of his career. Glad you bring up the saints, it’s strange how people weren’t saying the things about Dennis Allen that they said about Mike. That Rita benson was too cheap to hire anyone else. That an NFL team would hire from within Is small time. They hired a guy with previous experience too, a horrible experience.
In many ways, what Mike is going through is perfectly parallel to what DA is experiencing. But Mike should have kept the fall camp like it was before for the simple reason that the more that is expected of a player, the more that player will be forced to buy in & take ownership. And the whole 2 QB thing I have just gone through adnauseum. I'm not about firing Mike. I want the guy to succeed. But he is going to have to realize that his way is not always the right way, at least at first. To think that 18-22 year old guys are going to do all the right things like diet & rest & study on their own is just blatantly naive. And while the two QB thing isn't so bad the first game, or two against inferior competition, at some point he has to make a decision as to whom he believes in, or he will have a sinking ship with no buckets to bail himself out.
