Home schedule as a whole***Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel
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Home schedule as a whole***Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel
Easy question to answer Cajun Rebel, UL is not making money in athletics. So it's no different then football or any other sport. Go out and raise the money, just like every other coach. No one said it will be easy, but it's something that is required of every head coach in the program.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel
Are we breaking season ticket sales records? Like we are in other sports?Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel
I've said it many times. History will bear me out.
In the last 20 years, attendance for home basketball games before January 1 is bad no matter who you bring in.
In another thread, MAT talks about Tennessee and Nevada. Tennessee was a top ten team and we had to play them three for one. We drew fewer than 6,000 fans. Nevada drew less than 5,000. The last SEC team before Tennessee was Mississippi State. We didn't draw 4,000.
The hypothesis that a better schedule equals decidedly better attendance is a myth. The numbers don't lie.
Financially, I get the trade off. But if people don't think that dull home slate after dull home slate won't affect the long term interest in basketball, I don't know what to say. It's killing us.
Does anyone recall the marketing effort exerted for Tennessee, Nevada and Mississippi State games.
FWIW
http://www.ragincajuns.com/sports/20...ME.aspx?id=501
"The largest crowd to date for a Ragin’ Cajuns basketball game in the facility came on Dec. 16, 1992, when 11,479 fans watched UL defeat Loyola- Marymount, 87-73."
"The 11-game win-streak to end the 2010-11 season (Marlin's first year, if I am not mistaken) rejuvenated the fan base and attendance at the Cajundome rose to an average of 6,126 the final month."
I'm going to disagree. Our fans haven't paid much attention to hoops before Jan. 1 in many years. Game vs. App State drew more than games vs. McNeese or UNO. And, those are schools we should draw against no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by ManAboutTown
If you pay a team 80,,000 to come in and you only sell 500 more tickets, is it worth it?
Because you're not going to "buy" a big name team. If they aren't SWAC or SLC they probably aren't coming.
Honestly, I'd like to see us start playing the teams that left the league: Middle, WKU or UNT. Middle considered it this year, then passed. They've started some dialogue with WKU. North Texas won't even return their calls. Neither will Southern Miss.
Heck, I'd even be willing to start home and home with FIU and FAU again.
Current season ticket holders deserve bette than
Mississippi college
Louisiana college
Spring hill
Loyola
I don't car how you try to justify it, people that pay to be entertained deserve better. Yes, I think the SLC and even the swac are better than those schools.
Sorry if this is a dumb question... but can you do like you do in conference play and play an OOC opponent in a home and away in the same season?
Yes, and we've done it in the past. I remember doing it with Bradley one year. And, we did it with someone else more recently if I recall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just1More
I asked the same questions to the coaches about 3 weeks ago and they intern asked me if I thought the fans would like it? I said yes, I think if it is a better quality opponent. I do think that you will see it in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just1More
Two of those games were exhibitions. Be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycajun
So you think it's in UL's best interest to play Prairie View and give them 70K than it is to play Louisiana College for 5K?
If so, I'm glad you aren't the AD. No offense.
I am being fair, I open my wallet everytime when that renewal comes in the mail. If Marlin has to get off his ___ and raise money to get better games, I'm not gonna feel sorry for him...he is well compensated. Call them what you want, they were all exhibitions. Like I said, figure it out. I would rather, Stephen f Austin, NWST,shsu,southern, Lamar than any of those 4 schools. I know we will never have a schedule packed with power house les but if you don't think this ooc home schedule was complete crap, I'm glad you aren't the AD either. If those games are paid by money that is raised by this staff for exactly that purpose, why does it matter? Go raise 150k a year and buy decent home games for your supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdofParadise
That seems like an equitable bargaining deal for teams within our geography. Why would fans not like it? And like you said, it would almost undoubtedly help with elevating our home opponent schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by MelRock
Works for baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just1More
I threw my info in the garbage when I read that garbage. Im not watching that ____ t schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycajun
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I'm not far behind if it continues to be this bad, I'll just buy single game tickets to the ones worth going...it's not like there is ever a line at the ticket window anymoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeebart21
To Jay's point about home attendance before January;
only four of the top 20 attendance records are set in November or December.
This is all-time, not just the last 20 years.
1. 12-16-92 11, 479 Loyola-Marymount (1st game in the Cajundome)
5. 11-22-85 10,487 Georgia
14. 12-17-85 8,029 Auburn
20. 12-29=87 7,741 Florida St.
No, the real question is: What are your goals?Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel
If your goal is to get an at large bid, you schedule only top 150 RPI schools out of conference, regardless of where you play them. It ain't about home attendance [though that is nice], it is about NCAA Tournament seeding and dollars. If you have to schedule outside the top 150, you schedule only teams at the very top of weak conferences, who will help your RPI by winning 20+ games.
Personally, I could not care less about a team that plays only for the hope of winning the conference tourney. I want a team that is playing for an at large with a seed of 12 or better.
Nov 13, 2015 New Mexico
Nov 14, 2015 Creighton
Nov 19, 2015 Clemson
Nov 22, 2015 Howard
Nov 25, 2015 Texas San Antonio
Nov 28, 2015 Washington State
Dec 01, 2015 Mississippi State
Dec 05, 2015 SFA
Dec 12, 2015 Central Michigan
Dec 16, 2015 Iona
Dec 27, 2015 Syracuse
Dec 29, 2015 Baylor
This is the OOC schedule for Texas freaking Southern.
No reason we can't schedule just as well as a bad SWAC school. Admittedly TSU played all but one OOC game on the road; but we should be able to schedule Home/Home with 3-5 MAC or similar schools. Someone up thread also had the idea of talking to folks playing LSU OOC to see if they want to get two paydays in one trip. I would add teams playing Tulane and Houston to that list as well.
LOL, c'mon man. There were ZERO TSU home games on that list. ZERO!Quote:
Originally Posted by VObserver
We have absolutely no trouble scheduling good OOC competition opponents AWAY. The problem is that we can't get good opponents to play AT HOME.
Here are the OOC opponents LSU played at home this year: McNeese, Southwest Baptist, Kennesaw St., North Florida, Gardner-Webb, Oral Roberts, American, and Wake Forrest. Besides Wake Forrest (because they wouldn't come to the Cajundome,) are there any teams on that list that wow you? Houston and Tulane don't want to play us.
If Houston came to play next year do you think we'd see some gigantic jump in Season Ticket numbers? Because we didn't see it the last time Houston came here.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycajun
If Marlin goes out and raises 150K this year I guarantee he'll spend that money on something that helps OUR TEAM, not our supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazycajun
Well we're not gonna find out if you're right. Bobby BigFish isn't lowering himself to any serious fund raising.Quote:
Originally Posted by CajunRebel