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Crowley Cajun
Even while complaining about our use of UL, the fan and alum from LTUR made it clear he views us as UL.
""Whether they are Southeastern, Northwestern, Louisiana Tech, Grambling, McNeese, all the members of the UL System have a dog in this hunt because *******the action being taken by the UL administration******* is a slap in the face, perception wise," Louisiana Tech University alum and fan Tom Morris said.
"When you take the full name of Louisiana, you are insinuating you are the flagship of the system. Every graduate and student at any University of Louisiana system and institution should be concerned about the arrogant way Louisiana Lafayette has shoved this down not only our throats but the media's throats."
Pretty clear UL is on absolute solid legal ground, but much like in the eighties it is also clear that there is an organized move to rewrite law. Banana Republic of the Lilliputians stands short as usual. In the even they are successful in this newest effort to subvert the law there is ONE truth that will shine through. UL like a rose by any other name is still the sweetest smelling flower in the ULS, and the decaying corpses of Grambling, McNeese, ULM, Nichols,and UNO will continue to stink up the ULS.
The NewStar stands at the forefront of bad journalism. How can requesting something be demanding something. Nobody demands what they cannot command. Clearly they have entered the battle with an agenda beyond reporting.
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Post this on Sun Belt bbs
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So now the other Lilliputians want another post happening law or rule adopted. Never before has a team been forced to receive anointment on how to market themselves, just like when the name was originally changed every school had used the same rules and laws with no problems, until someone had insight and filled a vacuum.
Enough about this flagship nonsense as well. This "flagship" thing does not exist in the NCAA, or anywhere in college as some official thing. It is a concept, and is open to interpretation with regards to naming. Wikipedia claims such to be a metaphor. In listing some attributes of a flagship university UL has almost all of those. Now in the case of Louisiana only one school is so designated by law, so there is no way confusion can reside, the flagship is LSU.
Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagship also finds in most states find the term elitist to be discourage even if a school is deemed such a school.
So the facts:
A: Flagships are a metaphor, and only as real as the state designates it to be.
B: Louisiana has one, and only one designated flagship, LSU being that school.
C: No educated person could ever believe that UL means we are the flagship of the ULS, even though in reality we merit that on so many levels.
D: Fear, envy, and jealousy pervades the Lilliputian universities of this state, their fans, and alums.
F: Again the Lilliputians are seeking to stifle our legal rights, rights THEY all used to brand themselves, and name themselves in the past because of the fear, envy, and jealousy they all have.
E: They watch quietly as their universities are reduced in real ways by dollars, and standards, while wasting time and energy on UL. They are calling on their henchmen legislators to fix this, instead of fixing their cash drain, and diploma dilution.
I know it is crazy, but that is what Lilliputians are, small people thinking they are in fact great. This Gulliver will break the strings that bind. If the Lilliputians succeed perhaps we need to change our name to Gulliver State University of Louisiana at Lafayette, just so they know they are the Lilliputians, and their places in the broad scheme of things.
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Stupid Woe Hoax fans and TNS...quote from Bruno regarding their budget cut, taken from TNS...
"He (Bruno) estimated the first cuts will save ULM $375,000 annually. ULM has cut more than 250 positions since 2009."
Seems they have bigger concerns than our name but too stupid to see it.
They need to focus on what is killing their university, and sure isn't us.
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BamaCajun
ULaMon
ULM -> ULMAO (University of Laugh My ___ Off
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ZoomZoom
Stupid Woe Hoax fans and TNS...quote from Bruno regarding their budget cut, taken from TNS...
"He (Bruno) estimated the first cuts will save ULM $375,000 annually. ULM has cut more than 250 positions since 2009."
Seems they have bigger concerns than our name but too stupid to see it.
They need to focus on what is killing their university, and sure isn't us.
Here is the story on LaMo's budget cuts and departmental consolidation.
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...l#incart_river
Also noticed the related story reporting that Thompson states he will NOT introduce legislation to force the issue. Laughingly he says we should just "do what is right" and we should be proud of Lafayette and put it on our uniforms. :rolleyes:
http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s...in_cajuns.html
As always the butthurt comments are pretty funny especially the not caring LSU fan in New Orleans.
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More evasions about UL breaking the law. Again Mr. Thompson wrote a law, he has zero authority to interpret the law beyond what you, or I can do. No law was broken, no law is being broken, and it is amazing how insecure LSU is to this day.
I am pretty glad T Joe is standing above the nonsense. If Thompson thought he could change the law he would.
Now we have it MoanROW, LSU, and of course Lake Chuck Up McNeese. Seems like the same crew from 1984.
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Several people mentioned in these articles and in comments to the articles, that we entered into a "partnership" or some agreement with ULM when we both changed our names. They've also mentioned that we did it simultaneously, as if UL was not first. Once the law was passed as to who was in the ULS and which 6 programs could change their name, UL alone voted (staff, students, alumni) to change the name. We set everything up short of full implementation, because a second school, any of the other 5, had to agree to change theirs before ours went official. Dr. A convinced NLU to put it up for a vote and change their name. We clearly plowed the field by ourselves and didn't really care who planted seed second.
Everyone is glossing over these facts and they have clownishly slaughtered the fact our administration adheres to the legal name as is required by the state law. There are all kind of branding and nickname conventions, ULM being one (also not a legal name of that university) that could transpire. Louisiana Ragin Cajuns is our chosen athletic brand and is not implying a flagship status. That's a crock of nonsense. There is no "ULL" and never was. "UL" is our own internal reference (friends of our university) and it stems from a crime that occurred following our official name change to "UL" back in 1984 (another glossed over fact).
The problem I've had with this, starting with Tabby's post, is how an ounce of fact, a pound of misinformation, was mixed in with 50 pounds of emotion and regarded as important. It's intellectually disgusting.
Jay had a good article in his blog. But this work by Katie, thoroughly soaked in sarcasm, probably places the best overall perspective on the initial ridiculous attack by Tabby.
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ATXCajun
Second translation, I need the redneck vote, but pursuing this would amount to political embarrassment. I'll just say that it is bad and then do nothing.
These guys have discussed this "off air" and they know how silly it is. They know our admin isn't violating the existing official naming requirements, and that they can never put enough fencing around nicknames to do anything other than embarrass themselves politically.
There are only a handful of legislators that are willing to make this their concern. Others are not buying in to the need for more tax dollars being wasted to legislate (and police) nicknaming and fanatical objections.
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Just1More
Several people mentioned in these articles and in comments to the articles, that we entered into a "partnership" or some agreement with ULM when we both changed our names. They've also mentioned that we did it simultaneously, as if UL was not first. Once the law was passed as to who was in the ULS and which 6 programs could change their name, UL alone voted (staff, students, alumni) to change the name. We set everything up short of full implementation, because a second school, any of the other 5, had to agree to change theirs before ours went official. Dr. A convinced NLU to put it up for a vote and change their name. We clearly plowed the field by ourselves and didn't really care who planted seed second.
Everyone is glossing over these facts and they have clownishly slaughtered the fact our administration adheres to the legal name as is required by the state law. There are all kind of branding and nickname conventions, ULM being one (also not a legal name of that university) that could transpire. Louisiana Ragin Cajuns is our chosen athletic brand and is not implying a flagship status. That's a crock of nonsense. There is no "ULL" and never was. "UL" is our own internal reference (friends of our university) and it stems from a crime that occurred following our official name change to "UL" back in 1984 (another glossed over fact).
The problem I've had with this, starting with Tabby's post, is how an ounce of fact, a pound of misinformation, was mixed in with 50 pounds of emotion and regarded as important. It's intellectually disgusting.
Jay had a good article in his blog. But this work by Katie, thoroughly soaked in sarcasm, probably places the best overall perspective on the initial ridiculous attack by Tabby.
And just about every one of these articles fails to mention the origin of all of this in the 1984 name change following the legal procedures of the time and subsequent political manueverings to reverse it.
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How do they know when we say UL we aren't using university of Lafayette like they do?
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What is so sad about this is the Indians of NLU gave up their name for a seat at the FBS table, in the freaking Slum Belt Conference. That's leadership....lol.
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Hammer58
And just about every one of these articles fails to mention the origin of all of this in the 1984 name change following the legal procedures of the time and subsequent political manueverings to reverse it.
They pass it off as if we did something wrong and it was "corrected". They fail to mention the governing board made up of people representing the state, voted our name in. They had that authority for decades. The lie was that we were trying to become a "flagship" school. "That" would have taken new legislation. The UL name didn't imply flagship status over anything and we never discussed becoming a flagship university. Then comes our lawsuit, where an LSU graduate judge presides and not only refuses to recuse himself, but refuses that any other group of judges or jury should hear the case. If that wasn't a crock of ____, there never was one.
And all Ray really needed to do to show everyone how much more academically significant we were, was to put some vigorous support behind athletics, especially football. It's still amazing that he and some others couldn't see it as the glue that holds onto your alumni, students, and your community for the entire benefit of a public university. T-Joe gets it. He understands the balance and how the two parts, academics and athletics, through solid confident leadership, can live a healthy mutually beneficial existence.
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What is so sad about this is the Indians of NLU gave up their name for a seat at the FBS table, in the freaking Slum Belt Conference. That's leadership....lol.
And we, for many years, gave them the false impression we too were as deserving of low perceptions as a state university, by not putting forth a football program commensurate with our university size, alumni strength, community health, financial access, and exceptional academic standing. We've only started to fire up additional cylinders, and it's already a pretty sweet deal.
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ZoomZoom
What is so sad about this is the Indians of NLU gave up their name for a seat at the FBS table, in the freaking Slum Belt Conference. That's leadership....lol.
the Slum Belt had the cajuns since 91...so everyone was slumming it...it was still a move up for the university or at least a shot at the FBS...the SBC doesnt look terrible up and down now though thankfully...still has good core teams...and teams are staying competive in a handful of games outside of the SBC...i know ULM beat Wake and the cajuns beat Nichols??..thats always good for the conference...
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cajunwarhawks23
the Slum Belt had the cajuns since 91...so everyone was slumming it...it was still a move up for the university or at least a shot at the FBS...the SBC doesnt look terrible up and down now though thankfully...still has good core teams...and teams are staying competive in a handful of games outside of the SBC...i know ULM beat Wake and the cajuns beat Nichols??..thats always good for the conference...
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The thing that amazes me most about this state is how quickly other schools will fight to neuter those who work to rise above the status quo.
