Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
Boomer
_ I tell you, with what they got coming back next year along with the St. Martville kid we could be special--I have seen this team get after it on def and also seen some great off displays------Add to that the 2 seasons to really know the program and you can be pretty good at 20 years old compared to 17 0r 18!!!!! _
Watch the NCAA tourny. It looks like we play a different game than they do. I will go out on a limb now and say .500 at best next year.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
Hammer58
_ Thats the nightmare scenerio. He does just well enough to have you wondering about him again. Is he the guy to get it done or not? (Right now, short of making the sweet 16 I think not.) In that case do you give him a new contract and risk that the following year he tanks again and you are looking at not being able to dumphim because you can't afford a three year buyout? or do you just give him another two year extension and then the complaint is well he won't be able to recruit anyone because he is only guaranteed to be here for two years? Or do you just start a new coaching search? Remember, technically you wouldn't be firing him because his contract would be up, paid in full. _
That's why an athletic director change is mandatory, and I figure Scott Farmer's track record at Troy makes him our best hope. I knew T-Joe for a time about 25 years ago and I don't think he will interfere with a guy that he perceives can rattle the cage and change the culture. He knows in his heart that a special individual who can break the gridlock is our only hope.
The coaches have to be replaced next year and I don't want Walker anywhere near the controls in any capacity. I just hope UL can survive another year in Division 1-A until the cleansing process is complete. There is no hope with David Walker. He's a guardian of the status quo that has killed us.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
Hammer58
_ Thats the nightmare scenerio. He does just well enough to have you wondering about him again. Is he the guy to get it done or not? (Right now, short of making the sweet 16 I think not.) In that case do you give him a new contract and risk that the following year he tanks again and you are looking at not being able to dumphim because you can't afford a three year buyout? or do you just give him another two year extension and then the complaint is well he won't be able to recruit anyone because he is only guaranteed to be here for two years? Or do you just start a new coaching search? Remember, technically you wouldn't be firing him because his contract would be up, paid in full. _
Will not happen. We will stink next year and fire him then. Just makes the rebuilding project more difficult.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
anhil8tor
_ I've been thinking about it since Friday. IF the university (IE: Walker) felt it was the right call.... why wait until friday at noon to release the information? By monday most will be tired of talking about it. It was a calculated call by an AD that never did expect to release either coach.
I did like the fact that Josh mentioned the money that would have went to buyout will now sweeten the pot for the next coach (if/when) lee fails. I think we all know that we will try to shortchange whomever is thinking about this job. Its clear this university just doesn't have (or doesn't want) to spend the money age get the best coach available. _
First rule of controlling negative information and using news cycles to your advantage. Release the news late on a Friday.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
jllanclos
_ i'm just curious...what are we fans going to do if the unthinkable happens and Robert Lee succeeds? I'm willing to admit if I turn out to be wrong...are you?
igeaux.mobi _
If the miraculous occurs, then you will want Robert to stay. It will mean that the players respect him, that they are obeying him, they are following the plays he has diagrammed for them, they are practicing like they are supposed to, they are doing everything they need to do to succeed. It will mean that Robert has learned from his mistakes, that he will treat these young men with respect instead of yelling at them. He will be more of a teacher, explain why he wanted them to do what he requested, act more like a leader than a "lord and master."
Trust in this: there will be no middle ground for this team. They will either be wildly successful or pitifully inadequate. If this coaching staff and these players can get on the same page, they will have a chance to win a lot of ball games. If they stay like they are, this team will be fortunate to win 5 games next season.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
_ What happens if the same scenario reoccurs that happened a year ago, i.e. Lee goes .500 or slightly better and ties or wins the Western Division? That is an improvement over this year, but only puts us back to mediocre status. Do you fire a coach that wins the Western Division or simply reward mediocrity, AGAIN? That is a scary thought. I no longer trust the AD to make the right decision other than the cheapest route. It is still time for Walker to retire. _
It won't happen. They will either win big or fail miserably.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
California Cajun
_ That's why an athletic director change is mandatory, and I figure Scott Farmer's track record at Troy makes him our best hope. I knew T-Joe for a time about 25 years ago and I don't think he will interfere with a guy that he perceives can rattle the cage and change the culture. He knows in his heart that a special individual who can break the gridlock is our only hope.
The coaches have to be replaced next year and I don't want Walker anywhere near the controls in any capacity. I just hope UL can survive another year in Division 1-A until the cleansing process is complete. There is no hope with David Walker. He's a guardian of the status quo that has killed us. _
Scott was brought in to be the athletic director. He is being groomed to take over the position. You will simply have to wait for the timetable they have in place for his advancement.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
lcitsh
_ Scott was brought in to be the athletic director. He is being groomed to take over the position. You will simply have to wait for the timetable they have in place for his advancement. _
How many i's and t's in "transition"?
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
HoustonCajun
What happens if the same scenario reoccurs that happened a year ago, i.e. Lee goes .500 or slightly better and ties or wins the Western Division? That is an improvement over this year, but only puts us back to mediocre status. Do you fire a coach that wins the Western Division or simply reward mediocrity, AGAIN? That is a scary thought. I no longer trust the AD to make the right decision other than the cheapest route. It is still time for Walker to retire.
In my view, improvement means the semifinals of the conference tournament or better.
Re: Right Call... thats just bull****
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Originally Posted by
Cajunsmike
_ In my view, improvement means the semifinals of the conference tournament or better. _
A coach finishing his last year of a contract should be evaluated on his entire body of work. Lee has not met expectations as a whole and should not be retained as the coach no matter what he does next year.
